Cashless society

[divs4ever]

besides , no point in getting my number i share it with Tom the African refugee , and he seems to travel a fair bit ( Australia and abroad )

 

[sptrawler]

Not about payment but phones - a friend tells me that a hairdressing salon actually refused service, refused to cut their hair, without a mobile phone number being provided.

So it's actually compulsory to own a mobile, and to disclose the number, to get your hair cut?

Suffice to say I can't think of anything to say next that doesn't involve swearing......

They only have to make something indispensible, then they have big brother, I wonder what that would be. Lol
30 years ago everyone complained about the Australia card, because it was an intrusion on your privacy.
Now everyone is upset, if people arent interested in their privacy. Lol

 

[divs4ever]

They only have to make something indispensible, then they have big brother, I wonder what that would be. Lol
30 years ago everyone complained about the Australia card, because it was an intrusion on your privacy.
Now everyone is upset, if people arent interested in their privacy. Lol

until it is used against them , after all government officials are notorious for abusing their entitlements and other resources they administer
that is one reason they try to crush real investigative journalism

 

[Value Collector]

Not about payment but phones - a friend tells me that a hairdressing salon actually refused service, refused to cut their hair, without a mobile phone number being provided.

So it's actually compulsory to own a mobile, and to disclose the number, to get your hair cut?

Suffice to say I can't think of anything to say next that doesn't involve swearing......

Yeah, I have noticed a few of the barber chains now operated digital lines. So rather than the old sit and wait your turn, they expect you to walk up add your phone number then walk away and wait for a text message to let you now it’s you turn.

I can see a situation where a staff member might be confused and not know what to do if some one refuses to join the digital cue, and so in the moment just refuse service.

I am in Disney World at the moment, and their latest ride only has a digital cue, if you don’t have Disney’s app you can’t ride the ride. There is no regular line to join.

 

[divs4ever]

Yeah, I have noticed a few of the barber chains now operated digital lines. So rather than the old sit and wait your turn, they expect you to walk up add your phone number then walk away and wait for a text message to let you now it’s you turn.

I can see a situation where a staff member might be confused and not know what to do if some one refuses to join the digital cue, and so in the moment just refuse service.

I am in Disney World at the moment, and their latest ride only has a digital cue, if you don’t have Disney’s app you can’t ride the ride. There is no regular line to join.

don't plan to visit Disney either , i hope their cost-savings offset the loss of patronage

not that i will care either way

 

[Value Collector]

don't plan to visit Disney either , i hope their cost-savings offset the loss of patronage

Loss of patronage?

The parks are so full at the moment you have to reserve your spot ahead of time, gone are the days of waking up and deciding to go to the park and buy your ticket out the front.

Even the restaurants book out, I had to book our restaurants 60days in advance.

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But yeah digital cues are amazing, let’s face it it sucks standing in line for an hour waiting for a ride. Being able to log into the app, and be in a digital cue while you are off doing other things in the park is great.

Or you can just do what I do and drop some cash and skip the lines.

 

[Smurf1976]

I am in Disney World at the moment

As in literally right now?

heir latest ride only has a digital cue, if you don’t have Disney’s app you can’t ride the ride. There is no regular line to join.

It's the compulsory aspect I dislike.

If people want to opt in to something then sure but the idea that you must have a smartphone, and you must carry it with you at all times for purposes that have nothing to do with making actual phone calls or even communication in general, is going too far in my view.

 

[Value Collector]

As in literally right now?


It's the compulsory aspect I dislike.

I mean, I need a phone at DW for, well, what exactly?

Just my personal opinion but the less things in pockets at theme parks, the better in my view. Just personal preference.

Literally right now I am at Disney World in the Disney resort I am staying at, it’s our rest day today so just chilling out. But I was in the theme parks for the last few days and have 3 more theme park days booked, then it’s off to universal for 3 days.

The wife and I are love theme parks.

Before we arrived at Disney World we did a Cruise in the Bahamas.

 

[Value Collector]

If people want to opt in to something then sure but the idea that you must have a smartphone, and you must carry it with you at all times for purposes that have nothing to do with making actual phone calls or even communication in general, is going too far in my view.

If you ever do come to Disney World you will need atleast one person in your group to have a smart phone to have the best experience.

The Disney App is used for everything.

1. It’s your interactive map, that shows you wait times, (instead of paper maps)

2, you use it to book virtual cues for rides, instead of standing in physical cues.

3, you order your food using “mobile order” so you don’t have to cue for food, you just walk up and collect it.

4, restaurants will want to message you when your table is ready, rather than have crowds waiting around the entrance.

5, There is a live tip board that suggests rides, shows and other attractions that you might like that currently have shorter wait times etc.

6. Ride photos etc go directing to your phone app rather than have to line up at Photo Booth kiosks like the old days.

7. Many smaller things like you can see on the app when your washing machine or dryer at the hotel is finished and how many minutes you have till it’s done, or if there are available washing machines etc.

 

[divs4ever]

Loss of patronage?

The parks are so full at the moment you have to reserve your spot ahead of time, gone are the days of waking up and deciding to go to the park and buy your ticket out the front.

Even the restaurants book out, I had to book our restaurants 60days in advance.

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But yeah digital cues are amazing, let’s face it it sucks standing in line for an hour waiting for a ride. Being able to log into the app, and be in a digital cue while you are off doing other things in the park is great.

Or you can just do what I do and drop some cash and skip the lines.

i bet not many illegal migrants can afford to be in those lines ( and the middle-class will be eradicated soon in the US )

 

[Value Collector]

i bet not many illegal migrants can afford to be in those lines ( and the middle-class will be eradicated soon in the US )

That new ride that I mentioned has no physical line, is free to join the digital line.

It’s just like instead of having to stand in line for 2 hours, you just join the digital line and it gives you a return time and then you walk on the ride with only maybe a 3 mins wait.

You can pay extra and have no wait time at all, but the standard virtual cue is free, but it’s the most popular ride at Disney at the moment, so you might join the digital line at 9am and be told to return at 3pm, because so many people have joined the line ahead of you, but it sure beats standing in a physical line for hours.

I just paid the $58 for our group of 4 to ride it at a time that suits us, but hey the Iron Ore price is high so life is good hahaha

There is a feature called genie plus, that costs $15 per day, and that lets you use a virtual cue system on all the other rides that still have the standard physical cue.

 

[Smurf1976]

If you ever do come to Disney World you will need atleast one person in your group to have a smart phone to have the best experience.

It was far lower tech when I went there.

I'll admit to getting lost actually. Well not quite lost, just heading in the opposite direction to what was required. Three hotel buildings all looked the same and looking on the paper map it was clear which one the tour bus (heading to a non-Disney location) departed from. All good or so we thought.

Just one trouble and that was having the map up the wrong way. Thought we were being smart using the sun to work out bearings, completely forgetting that this is the northern hemisphere not the southern.....

It did work out in the end thankfully, they let us do the tour a couple of days later.

Pretty sure I've still got a set of mouse ears somewhere.

 

[Value Collector]

It was far lower tech when I went there.

I'll admit to getting lost actually. Well not quite lost, just heading in the opposite direction to what was required. Three hotel buildings all looked the same and looking on the paper map it was clear which one the tour bus (heading to a non-Disney location) departed from. All good or so we thought.

Just one trouble and that was having the map up the wrong way. Thought we were being smart using the sun to work out bearings, completely forgetting that this is the northern hemisphere not the southern.....

It did work out in the end thankfully, they let us do the tour a couple of days later.

Pretty sure I've still got a set of mouse ears somewhere.

Yep, being able to see the little blue dot on the map showing your location move around as you walk helps to show you are heading in the right direction ???

 

[moXJO]

@Value Collector
Been through California, san Francisco, or NY yet?

They still the dirty shtholes I remember?

 

[sptrawler]

As in literally right now?


It's the compulsory aspect I dislike.

If people want to opt in to something then sure but the idea that you must have a smartphone, and you must carry it with you at all times for purposes that have nothing to do with making actual phone calls or even communication in general, is going too far in my view.

For countries to go cashless they really need people to carry a smart phone, the more they get people to rely on and accept the phone as an essential item, the easier it will be to introduce a cashless system IMO.
As I posted earlier, it will be used to carry out most Government functions, through the My Gov app, once the majority use the phone as the tap and go payment device, the cashless system will follow soon after.
It is only the older generation that are stopping them from accelerating the change to cashless and that generation is becoming a smaller and smaller number.

 

[Dona Ferentes]

Soon, at least two phones with different SIM cards will be sensible. One for family, one for financial / business/ work, and one for your dealer.

 

[tech/a]

Before we arrived at Disney World we did a Cruise in the Bahamas.

Currently have friends trying to convince us to do a Caribbean Cruise in November.

Not a great cruiser myself and other friends tell me the Caribbean is over rated --I've also done most of the Pacific Islands.

What was your experience?

 

[againsthegrain]

For countries to go cashless they really need people to carry a smart phone, the more they get people to rely on and accept the phone as an essential item, the easier it will be to introduce a cashless system IMO.
As I posted earlier, it will be used to carry out most Government functions, through the My Gov app, once the majority use the phone as the tap and go payment device, the cashless system will follow soon after.
It is only the older generation that are stopping them from accelerating the change to cashless and that generation is becoming a smaller and smaller number.

Cashless is also a problem for the homeless population which is on a up trend worldwide, perhaps branding them with a chip could solve the problem

 

[Value Collector]

Currently have friends trying to convince us to do a Caribbean Cruise in November.

Not a great cruiser myself and other friends tell me the Caribbean is over rated --I've also done most of the Pacific Islands.

What was your experience?

We did the Disney Cruise, on their new ship the “Wish”, it was only a short 4 night. The ship itself was fantastic had a lot of fun.

The first Island we stopped at was Nassau, that was not that great, just a tourist trap really, if you booked an excursion it would be better, but I wanted to walk around the town.

But the second Island was Disneys private Island called “castaway cay” that was fun, just a pretty island with some swimming beaches, free food and drinks and some activities you could pay for like para sailing.

The wife and I generally like cruising, we just take it as a time to relax, catch up on some reading etc and eat lots of good food and enjoy some entertainment.

 

[Value Collector]

Soon, at least two phones with different SIM cards will be sensible. One for family, one for financial / business/ work, and one for your dealer.

New phones don’t even require SIM cards, the latest iPhone can have up to 4 Esims on it so you can have your personal and work phone numbers all on the same phone, and the iPhones sold in the USA no longer even have the aim slot.