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Cashless society

Thnx @divs4ever, that $1.10 scratchie has always stuck in my mind, bought at a newsagent with some left over coin shrapnel.
That'd be over 15 or more years ago now, always thought it was odd.
am trying to think back that far ( 15 plus years )

that might have been genuine confusion by the retailer ( or a straight money-grab ) but early on in the GST saga , some retailers did actually give you a price plus GST , , the total after GST policy did come in later

i remember that because i was buying fistfuls of music ( guitars, effects, mixers and such ) in the pre-GST stock clearances at the time

but yes GST did create some confusion early on ( and enhanced tax avoidance )
 
it doesn't sound right, most things you buy in proper shops gst is included in final price but on the receipt there is a breakdown and shown how much gst is included in the price.

btw I didn't win nothing
lots of confusion at the beginning of GST , say you had old ( pre-GST stock ) do you give some discount or pocket the extra margin

and remember some businesses had a little black hole ( OOPS!! box ) under the counter , that completely bypassed the book-keeper/accountant
 
I am in the USA at the moment too, ate Lunch at a place in Washington that was Cashless And besides leaving tips for the cleaners and Valet which I specifically bought cash for, I have paid with my Apple Watch everywhere.
 
@JohnDe This credit card surcharge is in my opinion just a scam. It's not a fixed fee as it should be. What is the cost to transact $1 or $1,00,000 the same??
I guess having it as a percentage allows the cost to be spread across those using it to move the highest amounts of money, I mean no one selling a coke for $4 wants to pay $5 in transaction costs, but a 1% fee of 4 cents is doable, but if you are selling a hotel room for the night, 1% of $500 is $5 and is doable Also.
 
@Value Collector Some time ago when I was dealing with a local stock feeder, he told me that he was charged a set fee on all of his credit card transactions that went through his business.
Hence my query what is the cost whether it be $! or $1,000,000.
According to him it was about 20c a transactions no matter what the amount was back then.
 
@JohnDe This credit card surcharge is in my opinion just a scam. It's not a fixed fee as it should be. What is the cost to transact $1 or $1,00,000 the same??

I'm guessing that the transactions are not as cheap as the financial institutions make it out to be, all the small over the counter swipes are not cost effective. It is not in the interest of the banks to have a fair user pay system because they would show the true faults of a cashless system. Instead of a flat fee as you point out, the banks make it a percentage regardless of the amount as a means to subsidise the smaller inefficient transactions so that they can assist in the death of cash.

Some, like the Greens senator Nick McKim, would say that if you can afford to make a large purchase then you can afford to pay a percentage to subsidise others on low incomes. And that is stupid, because most of the people that get caught with those banks' fees are people on low incomes.

Fees on banks cards hurt low income earners, it is as simple as that.

Creating a cashless society is the modern equivalent of legal tobacco, alcohol and soon to be marijuana sales with high government taxes. The wealthy can afford it, and crow about it, the poor get hammered.

People that try to convince us that cash transactions are expensive and inefficient, they are the tobacco sellers of the past.

electronic money can easily fool the people, with the claim of low fees, and fly-by points, or 12 months interest free, and whatever else they dream up to get you hooked.

Cash is king, you know what you have and what you can spend.
 
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No, credit card is always a percentage.

He was probably talking about eftpos eg when you press “savings” that’s a fixed rate used to be 15 cents. That what leads some people to say minimum eftpos $5 etc (which is annoying), but then also encouraging you to insert your card and press savings when the amount is higher (which is cheaper for them, but you miss out on points and interest etc because the cash leaves your account instantly)
 
When we dine out for morning tea or lunch we always ask the question You taka da cash? if no see yous later.
I just spent a few days in Detroit, and business owners are more worried about Gang Bangers walking in and “Taka da cash”, just a few miles from where I was is a red zone where even the police don’t really bother policing, you can see why business owners don’t want to keep cash.

I was even at a Burger King just yesterday (not in Detroit) and over heard two managers talking about their tills have been short every day and they need to figure out which staff member is stealing.
 
I am happy that the areas that we frequent for meals etc are relatively safe.
Though I do keep an eye open at one particular shopping centre.
Would appear that the tills need to a couple of cameras installed to see what's happening. Or is it just poor management.
 

Knock on wood, I've never had the experience of someone trying to steal my cash.

Most of the thefts that are reported are house break-ins to steal the car keys. I'm more worried about mobile phone theft, and some desperado threatening violence to get the password of the phone they are stealing.

Banks, governments and big business want us all fearing cash and moving all our transactions to a cashless system, so that they can get every extra cent that they think they deserve from us through fees and taxes.

Even in the USA where guns and crime are the highest in the world, they prefer cash -

 
I read a few stories of a house invasion, theft of car keys + abduction of the owner for a 1 way trip to the atm, no option of here is my wallet take it all and leave plz
 
@JohnDe Likewise never been held up but have been accosted wanting money in one of the Midland shopping centres. It's the types that houn around on EV scooters that always give concern.
 
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