Cashless society

Garpal Gumnut · 25 February 2023

For those who would use or would have used the largest amount in value of cash ... criminals, tradies, barristers, crooked politicians, sex workers, the CWA, volunteer and charitable organisations, and others swimming in the murky pool of undeclared money, many should use bitcoin now.

It is said to be untraceable if the user is careful just like cash.

And you don't need a card to use it.

gg

againsthegrain · 25 February 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
For those who would use or would have used the largest amount in value of cash ... criminals, tradies, barristers, crooked politicians, sex workers, the CWA, volunteer and charitable organisations, and others swimming in the murky pool of undeclared money, many should use bitcoin now.

It is said to be untraceable if the user is careful just like cash.

And you don't need a card to use it.

gg

Bitcoin is public ledger... means every transaction is open to public. Paired with strict exchange identification and kyc measures id say very very far from untraceable.

Cash gold diamonds casino chips etc much closer to being untraceable

JohnDe · 25 February 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
Ok, what happens when two angels get together?

gg

They sit on either shoulder, one of the angels records the good things and the other records the bad things the person has done.

qldfrog · 25 February 2023

To stress on why I think going fully internet and electronics money is potentially a fatal mistake

Dozens of SpaceX internet satellites lost to geomagnetic storm

WASHINGTON: Up to 40 SpaceX high-speed internet satellites have been knocked out of orbit by a geomagnetic storm shortly after launch, but pose little threat to Earth as they burn up in the atmosphere, the company said.

www.bangkokpost.com

When your internet and GPS are down,(a very moderate sun flare) and potentially all electronic and electrical systems burnt (serious flare), cashless is dead

I am reading a very interesting book/novel written by a British scientist
Sun Fall

Sunfall

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About sun flare and as well magnetic pole flip.
I do not worry about pole flip, would be unlucky in our time line..but flare issues could happen.
And this should be taken into account in al these crypto dollars as cashless society

farmerge · 25 February 2023

JohnDe said:
They sit on either shoulder, one of the angels records the good things and the other records the bad things the person has done.

Having just read your reply John De I seem to remember hearing or reading this yonks ago.

divs4ever · 25 February 2023

farmerge said:
What no use of the tumble dryer!!!!

depends on the source of the money ( some have discovered cutting corners is embarrassing )

divs4ever · 25 February 2023

qldfrog said:
To stress on why I think going fully internet and electronics money is potentially a fatal mistake

that is what i am planning on , i have a plan , many others have cloud access

divs4ever · 25 February 2023

JohnDe said:
They sit on either shoulder, one of the angels records the good things and the other records the bad things the person has done.

if that were true one is bored to sleep , and the other on strike for more assistants ( at least on my shoulders )

farmerge · 25 February 2023

divs4ever said:
if that were true one is bored to sleep , and the other on strike for more assistants ( at least on my shoulders )

Now that's more like it, getting back to reality.

farmerge · 25 February 2023

qldfrog said:
To stress on why I think going fully internet and electronics money is potentially a fatal mistake

Dozens of SpaceX internet satellites lost to geomagnetic storm

WASHINGTON: Up to 40 SpaceX high-speed internet satellites have been knocked out of orbit by a geomagnetic storm shortly after launch, but pose little threat to Earth as they burn up in the atmosphere, the company said.

www.bangkokpost.com

When your internet and GPS are down,(a very moderate sun flare) and potentially all electronic and electrical systems burnt (serious flare), cashless is dead

I am reading a very interesting book/novel written by a British scientist
Sun Fall

Sunfall

Buy Sunfall, The cutting edge 'what-if' thriller from the celebrated scientist and BBC broadcaster by Jim Al-Khalili from Booktopia. Get a discounted Paperback from Australia's leading online bookstore.

www.booktopia.com.au

About sun flare and as well magnetic pole flip.
I do not worry about pole flip, would be unlucky in our time line..but flare issues could happen.
And this should be taken into account in al these crypto dollars as cashless society

Hmm as far as this turkey is concerned cash is and always will be "king" Lve the stuff. , especially when doing a quote and get asked Mr C. Ash anygood for you.

houtman · 26 February 2023

Not bad, the CWA, Bitcoin, Angels, sun flares and casino chips all on the 1 page.
This could have the makings of a Dan Brown novel.

I was chatting to an owner of a stall at the local markets, he sells coffee beans and coffee, there is generally a queue for his products and he is on top of his game.
His takings have gone from 83% cash pre-covid to 85% card now with no sign of a return to cash.

There are a lot of hidden costs with cash as a business owner, theft(both by staff and break ins), time spent counting, trips to banks, storage etc.
I keep some cash stashed for emergencies.

A service fee for cash can't be too far away.

rcw1 · 26 February 2023

farmerge said:
Hmm as far as this turkey is concerned cash is and always will be "king" Lve the stuff. , especially when doing a quote and get asked Mr C. Ash anygood for you.

Good afternoon farmerge
folded …. Ha ha ha oh the joy of it all …

Sounds very much like rcw1 conversations with bookies ha ha ha ha except maybe an expletive or two when they say no to the Rcw1 coin for a particular bet where the bookie thought to much about the consequences of a pay out that might hurt the lads bottom line ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Have a good week bloke.
Edit: add the word line

Kind regards
rcw1

wayneL · 26 February 2023

houtman said:
Not bad, the CWA, Bitcoin, Angels, sun flares and casino chips all on the 1 page.
This could have the makings of a Dan Brown novel.

I was chatting to an owner of a stall at the local markets, he sells coffee beans and coffee, there is generally a queue for his products and he is on top of his game.
His takings have gone from 83% cash pre-covid to 85% card now with no sign of a return to cash.

There are a lot of hidden costs with cash as a business owner, theft(both by staff and break ins), time spent counting, trips to banks, storage etc.
I keep some cash stashed for emergencies.

A service fee for cash can't be too far away.

Nope, I'll just walk away. #### 'em.

They get charges on the card as well, that is aslo a cost.

houtman · 26 February 2023

wayneL said:
They get charges on the card as well, that is aslo a cost.

Yes they do.
But I think with the customer base going from 7 out of 8 using cash to 1 out of 8 using cash, any concerns businesses ( or more likely banks in a top down scenario) May have of losing customers by charging for cash handling is greatly diminished.

I’m not saying I like the idea, but I won’t be surprised if it happens.

houtman · 26 February 2023

Apologies for the amateurish conversions from % to fractions in the above, back to school.

divs4ever · 27 February 2023

houtman said:
Apologies for the amateurish conversions from % to fractions in the above, back to school.

that won't help ( your maths )

might improve climate awareness , or gender sensitivity though

farmerge · 27 February 2023

rcw1 said:
Good afternoon farmerge
folded …. Ha ha ha oh the joy of it all …

Sounds very much like rcw1 conversations with bookies ha ha ha ha except maybe an expletive or two when they say no to the Rcw1 coin for a particular bet where the bookie thought to much about the consequences of a pay out that might hurt the lads bottom line ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

Have a good week bloke.
Edit: add the word line

Kind regards
rcw1

Yeah had a fun couple of helping draft of the lambs. bloke on the drfting stuffed it up a bit and had to do it twice. My version he was just happy to see me through a dust haze while he was in clean air.

mullokintyre · 27 February 2023

farmerge said:
Yeah had a fun couple of helping draft of the lambs. bloke on the drfting stuffed it up a bit and had to do it twice. My version he was just happy to see me through a dust haze while he was in clean air.

Rule no 1, always position yourself yourself upwind.
Mick

Garpal Gumnut · 27 February 2023

houtman said:
Yes they do.
But I think with the customer base going from 7 out of 8 using cash to 1 out of 8 using cash, any concerns businesses ( or more likely banks in a top down scenario) May have of losing customers by charging for cash handling is greatly diminished.

I’m not saying I like the idea, but I won’t be surprised if it happens.

As far as I know "Cash" as in "Legal Tender" cannot be interfered with.

So if I present $50 to an outfit that has an ABN or even is a sole trader it would be illegal to change the value of the cash tendered.

gg

Value Collector · 27 February 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
As far as I know "Cash" as in "Legal Tender" cannot be interfered with.

So if I present $50 to an outfit that has an ABN or even is a sole trader it would be illegal to change the value of the cash tendered.

gg

Nope, that’s not the way it works.

Cash is legal tender, but that doesn’t mean people are forced to accept it.

when you purchase something you are entering into a private contract, and the Seller has the right to set the terms and conditions of the sale, including set out how they would like to be paid, and any fees involved.

If they give you verbal or written notice in the form of a sign that they don’t accept cash payments, or have a handling fee. that’s totally legal.

The can also state that they don’t accept certain denominations.

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