JohnDe
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Hmm didn't think NOT accepting legal tender was allowed. Still if only a robot is there what hope is there. And in some instances the vision on two feet is often not much better than a robot. Either uneducated or speaks a different version of English to the locals.
Not really good enough John De Legal tender is just that. Everything else is to suit money corporations to make more out of it.I'd like to see someone with legal knowledge take this further - shops and venues not accepting cash.
As for the carwash, I found out from my daughter that the car wash only accepts crisp and near new $20, other denominations don't have to be as good condition.
A local craft brewery near me only accepts payment by card, I visit them every few months and they are very busy. The youth don't like to hold cash.
happened to me too, ordered a drink at the bar for my wife, they made it, went to give them a 20 and sorry we don't take cash.... if it wasn't for my wife but me id laugh and say bad luck, however in front of a female this behaviour would not be worth the trouble after the fact so used a debit cardI wonder what will happen when they finally get rid of cash.
Refusing to accept cash is starting to become the norm.
Went to a function on the weekend, the standard drinks were supplied, and my wife wanted to buy a special drink for the birthday boy, the bar wouldn't take cash and the eftpos machine was playing up. Had to wait 20 minutes.
Sunday evening, I took one of our cars to the brushless carwash, I left my wallet at home but had about $30 cash. Lined up, put the $20 bill in the slot and no matter which way I turned it the machine would not accept it.
My missus would have said (in a very posh English accent) "#### 'em, let's get the #### out of this ####hole and find someone who wants our money".happened to me too, ordered a drink at the bar for my wife, they made it, went to give them a 20 and sorry we don't take cash.... if it wasn't for my wife but me id laugh and say bad luck, however in front of a female this behaviour would not be worth the trouble after the fact so used a debit card
NFC is a connection based on convenience, and because there aren’t many security checks, a bump could end up uploading a virus, malware, or some other malicious file to the bumped device. And if the NFC implementation is insecure, the device could automatically open that file.
The most effective way to secure against NFC vulnerabilities is not to use NFC
My missus would have said (in a very posh English accent) "#### 'em, let's get the #### out of this ####hole and find someone who wants our money".
A foot is 0.3048 metres, an inch is that number divided by 12..., get the chain out and we are talking links... ? forget the yardsticks, that's for the yanks (preferably over the back of the head if they get out of line)I still work in feet and inches to the amazemnt of some who have no idea what a "foot" is except that it holds you up.
It will happen, takes a few generations to fully wash it out. I would give it about 20-40 years until cash is fully phased outWhen the phone lines are down two things happen.
1, some newer machines just store the information and process the transaction later.
2, the business can bring out that Manuel card imprinting machine, you like they used to use in the 80’s before eftpos.
I can see a situation in the future where cash transactions might be subject to additional fees.
It’s common for businesses to charge credit cards 1% or so as a fee, but it can cost $60 a day to have staff count cash, sort out float and then go down and do the banking. so I can see a world where those costs get passed along to customers that use cash.
We have enough risk with cc touch scam bumping into you by accident wo switching NFC on your phone.Legal tender, yeah, had heaps of "...we don't accept cash." when Covid was in full swing. That excuse doesn't cut the mustard with me anymore. I/we have made it a rule, businesses that refuse to accept cash are the losers and don't receive our business anymore.
Had one the other day, saw the "Card Only" sign and couldn't resist. Asked to speak with the duty manager, was advised store policy not to accept cash.
So what happens when the EFTPOS/Internet/Satellite links fail?
Or, when people like me refuse to transact with "Card Only" businesses?
The look on the staff faces was priceless.
On a side note. There is also a push to go "Cardless" and use NFC.
This push for all things cashless/cardless really fuels the scams, ripoffs, hacking, spoofing etc etc. My guess is that not many people are aware of NFC hacking.
Fairly easy too with the young 'un's all holding their mobiles in their hands.
From Make Use Of
Educate those that use Mobile devices please.
From TechCrunch: Hackers stole passwords for accessing 140,000 payment terminals
Anyways, cash was, is and always will be king in my books, lol.
When the phone lines are down two things happen.
1, some newer machines just store the information and process the transaction later.
2, the business can bring out that Manuel card imprinting machine, you like they used to use in the 80’s before eftpos.
I can see a situation in the future where cash transactions might be subject to additional fees.
It’s common for businesses to charge credit cards 1% or so as a fee, but it can cost $60 a day to have staff count cash, sort out float and then go down and do the banking. so I can see a world where those costs get passed along to customers that use cash.
It will happen, takes a few generations to fully wash it out. I would give it about 20-40 years until cash is fully phased out
It’s called “offline mode”.I have not seen or heard of any EFTPOS machines storing card details, that could be illegal. Besides that, any purchases over $200 requires a security PIN.
Woolworths EFTPOS system went down across the state a year ago, not one store pulled out an antique card swipe. I’d be surprised if any staff would know how to use one if they had one.
I do agree that one day there will be a surcharge on handling cash. Though that could already be the case, how often do you hear ‘discount for cash’ these days.
Good evening CratonLegal tender, yeah, had heaps of "...we don't accept cash." when Covid was in full swing. That excuse doesn't cut the mustard with me anymore. I/we have made it a rule, businesses that refuse to accept cash are the losers and don't receive our business anymore.
Had one the other day, saw the "Card Only" sign and couldn't resist. Asked to speak with the duty manager, was advised store policy not to accept cash.
So what happens when the EFTPOS/Internet/Satellite links fail?
Or, when people like me refuse to transact with "Card Only" businesses?
The look on the staff faces was priceless.
On a side note. There is also a push to go "Cardless" and use NFC.
This push for all things cashless/cardless really fuels the scams, ripoffs, hacking, spoofing etc etc. My guess is that not many people are aware of NFC hacking.
Fairly easy too with the young 'un's all holding their mobiles in their hands.
From Make Use Of
Educate those that use Mobile devices please.
From TechCrunch: Hackers stole passwords for accessing 140,000 payment terminals
Anyways, cash was, is and always will be king in my books, lol.
It’s called “offline mode”.
may still require a PIN number or signature, it’s an alternative to having to drag out that huge Manuel imprinting machine.
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In theory agreed.When the phone lines are down two things happen.
1, some newer machines just store the information and process the transaction later.
2, the business can bring out that Manuel card imprinting machine, you like they used to use in the 80’s before eftpos.
I've had the opposite problem in the past.I/we have made it a rule, businesses that refuse to accept cash are the losers and don't receive our business anymore.
Hmm haven't heard yard sticks mentioned for some time. Back in the dim dark days of my youth when marching girls were all the craze here in Perth, i can remember the coaches with their yard sticks walking alongside the leading girls so as to make sure their step was exactly that. Oh how I as a young teenager loved those girls in their very skimpy and tight uniforms. A red blooded male.A foot is 0.3048 metres, an inch is that number divided by 12..., get the chain out and we are talking links... ? forget the yardsticks, that's for the yanks (preferably over the back of the head if they get out of line)
Sad, but more probable than not.When the phone lines are down two things happen.
1, some newer machines just store the information and process the transaction later.
2, the business can bring out that Manuel card imprinting machine, you like they used to use in the 80’s before eftpos.
I can see a situation in the future where cash transactions might be subject to additional fees.
It’s common for businesses to charge credit cards 1% or so as a fee, but it can cost $60 a day to have staff count cash, sort out float and then go down and do the banking. so I can see a world where those costs get passed along to customers that use cash.
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