Brexit OUT of EU: What happens now?

[sptrawler]

Agree with you IFocus, it is just he has copped a huge bashing along with Trump, not that I follow the politics of either, it is great to see the media have to eat humble pie occasionally.
I just hope it goes to an election, that puts it to bed forever.

 

[bellenuit]

U.K. Lawmakers Disrupt Boris Johnson’s Brexit Plan
What was supposed to be a dramatic up-or-down vote on the British prime minister’s deal with Brussels fizzled amid parliamentary maneuvers.

LONDON — Just as Britain appeared on the cusp of a history-making, up-or-down vote on its long-delayed departure from the European Union, the British Parliament struck an impasse on Saturday as lawmakers adopted a measure that delayed a vote on Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal with Brussels.

The turbulent events left Mr. Johnson’s agreement in limbo, legally obliging him to seek yet another extension for Britain’s departure, which he had once vowed never to do. It was the latest twist in a debate that has convulsed the country ever since the British public voted in 2016 for a divorce from the European Union.

On a dramatic day in which lawmakers debated while enormous crowds of anti-Brexit protesters marched outside the Houses of Parliament, Mr. Johnson implored lawmakers to approve his agreement, which would pave the way for Britain to leave the European Union at the end of the month.


Sorry, the rest is behind NYT subscription firewall.

 

[qldfrog]

There is no way the political class and establishment will let the people decide

Brexit, Trump, Catalonia, Hong Kong incredible how these common people dare to tell us how to rule them

 

[wayneL]

Sheer speculation here.

A WTO exit on Oct could still happen and may actually be the goal of Boris and Cummings. I still have a few contacts inside the Illiberal Undemocrats over there (**of which to my eternal shame I was a member of) and nobody really knows WTF is going to happen.

**We were Orange Bookers and regularly told by the Marxist branch of the party to **** off and join the Tories.

 

[Logique]

If Boris and the Tories have the cohones for it, they can bluster their way through. The people are with them. Apart from London.

How? By daring UK Labour & Remainer fellow travellers to vote "No Confidence" in the government, hence calling on a general election. Which as we have seen, the elites will shrink from..

 

[Knobby22]

Well they got it through, sort of..
The opposition still want a delay and be able to review.

Boris wants to use this to proceed immediately or force and election:
The Tory's who quit the party will be seeking new careers. I reckon the opposition will try their hardest to not let an election occur however surely the Prime Minister can call one? Actually not, they created fixed terms parliament so need 2/3rds majority to call an election. Unintended consequences.

 

[moXJO]

Well they got it through, sort of..
The opposition still want a delay and be able to review.

Boris wants to use this to proceed immediately or force and election:
The Tory's who quit the party will be seeking new careers. I reckon the opposition will try their hardest to not let an election occur however surely the Prime Minister can call one? Actually not, they created fixed terms parliament so need 2/3rds majority to call an election. Unintended consequences.

Britain is a train wreck. Democracy died there a while back.

 

[noirua]

Growing risk of no-deal in six days after Macron blocks Brexit extension
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...fter-macron-blocks-brexit-extension-h5fxtprqr

 

[sptrawler]

Growing risk of no-deal in six days after Macron blocks Brexit extension
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/...fter-macron-blocks-brexit-extension-h5fxtprqr

Wow the French helping the British, that's a turn up.

 

[sptrawler]

Well it is clear to see some are very, very, very disappointed.
Interesting that the old saying"if you don't have anything nice to say, say nothing", seems to be a thing of the past with the media.
Just my opinion.
https://www.theage.com.au/world/eur...ection-for-boris-johnson-20191107-p53881.html

It would have been much easier for the reporter, to just say, the people will decide at the election.

 

[Knobby22]

Gee, Corbyn is a Marxist, look at some of his policies... assuming Mish is telling the truth, I find it as bit hard to believe.
Also if you go to the site linked below you can see the Liberal Democrats are doing very well in the polling.


In a forced distribution scheme, Labour Proposes Workers to Get 10% of Company Shares

1. Rebecca Long-Bailey, the shadow business secretary, and John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, want big companies to give employees a 10% stake in their business and a seat on their boards.
2. They plan to renationalize rail, water, energy and Royal Mail, increase corporation tax and the minimum wage, and extend workers’ rights.
3. Companies doing business with the government will have bosses’ pay capped and there will be a tax on financial transactions.

Corbyn proposes sheltering the homeless and forcing homeowners to sell their homes to renters at a "reasonable" price, set by the government.

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/econ...soul-of-great-britain-c3DdQcPeU0a-PlIoIAAIhw/

 

[qldfrog]

Yes he is a true blue communist a la polpot...i know it sounds incredible, worse still, he has support to become leader
Once 50pc of voters pay no tax, it is an auction game

 

[Logique]

I cannot believe the British people would be so foolish as to elect an alleged Marxist and alleged anti-Semite. I would be very concerned about my UK-based investments should this come about.

Boris, Brexit or Bust
James Allan, Quadrant Online: https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/12/boris-brexit-or-bust/
On 9th December 2019, James allan wrote:
...On December 12 Britain goes to the polls....at stake is whether the British political class will honour the 2016 referendum result or prevaricate and stall its way to over-ruling the wishes of the majority in favour of those of the Establishment...

 

[sptrawler]

Buying the working class vote is always a gamble, most politicians gamble the working class is stupid and it is that which usually brings about their undoing.
Social media has brought about an enlightening of sorts to normal people, where they can ask questions anonymously and receive a multitude of different opinions, rather than just relying on the biased media.

 

[wayneL]

I cannot believe the British people would be so foolish as to elect an alleged Marxist and alleged anti-Semite. I would be very concerned about my UK-based investments should this come about.

Boris, Brexit or Bust
James Allan, Quadrant Online: https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2019/12/boris-brexit-or-bust/
On 9th December 2019, James allan wrote:
...On December 12 Britain goes to the polls....at stake is whether the British political class will honour the 2016 referendum result or prevaricate and stall its way to over-ruling the wishes of the majority in favour of those of the Establishment...

The only reason UK labour is anything above 5% in the pols is because of their version of the mediscare campaign and class warfare.

The Corbynated Chicken deserves no more than that.

 

[wayneL]

I ****ing love this!

 

[wayneL]

Exit polls predicting a landslide to Boris.

If accurate, UK politics is about to be fun again.

 

[dutchie]

Poms vote for Brexit (again).

 

[Knobby22]

Antony Green who is working with the BBC as well as the ABC on this has already called it with all logic explained... what a legend. The BBC will want him back.

Conservative clear victory. Boris has ultimate victory. I think he was a little lucky to have Corbonne opposing him but he is the politicians answer to popularity and has done it again.

Good result for UK and should be good for Australia.

 

[Logique]

86 seats majority is the latest estimate, but only on exit polling.

World markets have jumped on the news - including the UK FTSE - which is significant.