Boeing 737 Max: Death Aircraft

[Dona Ferentes]

Houston .... we have a problem

 

[mullokintyre]

Let’s look back on it in 3 years.

My bet is they are still making the aircraft in 3 years.

Good call.
Its a bit over 3 years since you posted @Value Collector , and the 737 max is still in production.
From FAA

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA)’s six-week audit of Boeing and Spirit AeroSystems, prompted by the January 5 incident involving a new, Boeing 737-9 MAX aircraft, found multiple instances where the companies allegedly failed to comply with manufacturing quality control requirements.

The FAA identified non-compliance issues in Boeing’s manufacturing process control, parts handling and storage, and product control. The FAA is providing these details to the public as an update to the agency’s ongoing investigation.

The audit is one of the immediate oversight actions the FAA took after a left mid-cabin door plug blew out of Alaska Airlines Flight 1282 on January 5 while in flight. At a meeting at FAA Headquarters in Washington, DC, last week, Administrator Mike Whitaker informed Boeing’s CEO and other senior leaders that the company must address the audit’s findings as part of its comprehensive corrective action plan to fix systemic quality-control issues. The plan must also address the findings from the expert review panel report that examined Boeing’s safety culture. The FAA has given Boeing 90 days to outline its action plan.

To hold Boeing accountable for its production quality issues, the FAA has halted production expansion of the Boeing 737 MAX, is exploring the use of a third party to conduct independent reviews of quality systems, and will continue its increased onsite presence at Boeing’s facility in Renton, Washington, and Spirit AeroSystems’ facility in Wichita, Kansas.

The FAA will thoroughly review all of Boeing’s corrective actions to determine if they fully address the FAA’s findings.

The FAA provided both companies with a summary of the audit findings.

Mick

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[mullokintyre]

And right on cue the Boeing Whistleblower has been Epsteined.

Mick

 

[sptrawler]

And right on cue the Boeing Whistleblower has been Epsteined.
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So what the hell are the airlines that are running the planes doing? It must be a nightmare keeping up customer confidence.

 

[Knobby22]

So what the hell are the airlines that are running the planes doing? It must be a nightmare keeping up customer confidence.

Trying to buy Airbuses.

United considering A321neo order as 737 Max 10 certification stalls

United Airlines chief executive Scott Kirby acknowledges that the US carrier is considering a potential order of Airbus A321neos to replace the Boeing 737 Max 10 aircraft it no longer expects to be delivered.

www.flightglobal.com

What used to be a duopoly has become two-thirds Airbus, one-third Boeing," said Richard Aboulafia, the managing director of AeroDynamic Advisory in Washington, D.C. "A lot of people, whether investors, financiers or customers, are looking at Airbus and seeing a company run by competent people," he said. "The contrast with Boeing is fairly profound."

Slashdot

m.slashdot.org

 

[mullokintyre]

The recent incidents involving another product from Boeing has once again put the spotlight on aviation.
In this latest one involving the LATAm aircraft that suddenly lost enough altitude quickly to push passengers and crew into the roof , the first reports blamed the aircraft control systems.
It now appears that there may be another reason.
It seems that the electric seat can be pushed far enough forward so as to push the control forward and overide the Autopilot.
So it appears that someone or sometging pushed the electric seat forward button.
Just as a matter of interest, here is a list of the airlines with the most crashes.
A couple of data points.
Air France and American Airlines tie for most plane crashes, with 11 each.

Notably two of American Airlines incidents happened on September 11th, 2001, as did two from United Airlines’ seven crashes.
In all there have been 17 incidents of Aircraft being deliberately crashed, including the Conellan Air crash into the Alice Springs Air Terminal in 1977 see ( see Suicide crashes )
All of them were the result of "pilot error" rather than problems with aircraft.
The MSA Flight was another case of "pilot Error".
The lockerbie disaster was a bomb on board, the MSA flight 17 shot down by the Russians, Ukraine Flight 752 shot down by Iran, and Iran Air flight 655 shot down by the Americans were all caused by outside forces.
Since the first bombing of an airliner in 1933 , there have been 65 in airbomb attakes , not all of which were fatal (see Wkipedia )

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The incidence of aircraft manufacturing/software/maintenance issues actually belongs rather low on list of causes.
It is certainly lower than the number of incidents caused by pilot error or bombings.
Finally, from a statistical viewpoint, Airline travel in the USA is fairly safe.
From ABC News

Mick

 

[mullokintyre]

Just when we thought it was safe to back in the air.

Mick

 

[Knobby22]

Yesterday, a United Airlines ground staff find hole in undercarriage after 737-800 landed. Appears a panel fell off mid flight without anyone noticing.

Good photo, see story below.

Ground staff discover panel missing from Boeing plane after landing

Boeing is in the spotlight again after a panel was found to be missing in post-flight checks. Debris could not be found nearby, suggesting the panel came off mid-flight.

www.smh.com.au

 

[The Triangle]

And right on cue the Boeing Whistleblower has been Epsteined.
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2nd dead whistleblower

Whistleblower who accused Boeing supplier of ignoring defects dies

Former Spirit AeroSystems employee Joshua Dean dies after sudden illness, family says.

www.aljazeera.com

Don't stand up against the American military machine.

 

[Knobby22]

More Max problems, Dutch rolls and titanium parts falsely certified.
Geez.

Boeing investigated after 'Dutch roll'

Air regulators are investigating new issues with Boeing planes.

www.google.com.au

 

[Knobby22]

Boeing to be charged because they violated an agreement that protected them from prosecution. The airplane manufacturer broke the agreement by “failing to design, implement, and enforce a compliance and ethics program to prevent and detect violations of the U.S. fraud laws throughout its operations,” the DOJ said.

The culture is so bad they couldn't fix it despite knowing they might get sued if they break the deal.

"The US Department of Justice (DOJ) will criminally charge Boeing with fraud over two fatal crashes and ask the plane maker to plead guilty or face a trial, two people familiar with the matter have told Reuters.

The DOJ decided to charge Boeing after finding it violated a 2021 agreement that had shielded it from prosecution over fatal crashes involving 737 MAX jets.

The deadly crashes took place in 2018 and 2019, killing 346 people."

Boeing is being charged with fraud over two fatal plane crashes. Reports say they've been offered a deal

The US Department of Justice (DOJ) is reportedly hitting the plane maker with a criminal fraud charge over two fatal plane crashes in 2018 and 2019.

www.abc.net.au