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Ray for the good guys rayyyyy
boo for the bad guys booooo

PS this year 4 games ??? :confused:

(sorry , brief post - I'm busy cheering in the other room :eek: )
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/07/26/2315498.htm

Australia maintained its unbeaten run under new coach Robbie Deans with a convincing 34-19 victory over the All Blacks in their opening Bledisloe Cup clash at Sydney's Olympic stadium on Saturday evening.

The Wallabies won their fifth match on the trot under New Zealander Deans to storm to the top of the Tri-Nations standings after a seven-try thriller.

.........
Australia have only scored more points in a Bledisloe Cup Test against New Zealand in their 35-39 loss at the same venue in 2000.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bledisloe_Cup

Most titles won:
New Zealand - 35
Australia - 12

Longest time held by Australia: 5 years (1998-2002) (5 Titles)
Longest time held by New Zealand: 27 years (1951-1978) (12 Titles)
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Recent history?
We held it for 5 years
then they've held it for 5 years.
I reckon we're about to start the next 5 years with a win.

PS gee there are many of those years that a 1-1 draw was enough to hold the cup - pretty meaningless really :eek:

2006 saw the return of the 3 game contest for Bledisloe as the Tri Nations series was extended so that each team played each other 3 times. 2007 however reverted back to the two-game contest because of the World Cup.

In 2008 it was announced that the Bledisloe cup would be contested over an unprecedented four matches, three games are to be played in Australia and New Zealand while a fourth, potentially deciding game, is to be played in Hong Kong in an effort to promote the game in Asia (the first time Australia and New Zealand have played not on home ground outside the World Cup).
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..... contested over an unprecedented four matches, three games are to be played in Australia and New Zealand while a fourth, potentially deciding game, is to be played in Hong Kong in an effort to promote the game in Asia ...
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thinking ahead - so what about if we're ahead 3-0 by then, and the HK match is a dead rubber (sorry kiwis, just thinking positive here ;) )
 
jeez, what a whippin
lol -
a) swab the aussies
and/or
b) swab the All Blacks
and/or
c) double check the Wallabies weren't backing the All Blacks with some SP bookie :rolleyes:

SHINBONE !! - all they had to do was kick it out lol -
so we give away a bonus point as well !!!

Bludy hell, the Robbie Deans honeymoon is well and truly over .
 
2020, is it safe to assume from your post that my countrymen won the dreaded game?
 
julia
yep , that would sadly be one very safe assumption.
like the article says, they hammered us..

It was as if they'd swapped jerseys (or guernseys if you prefer) after the first match in Sydney - where we hammered them. :eek:

lineouts, turnovers, everything
all we had to do was kick it out at the end, but no, we let them score an end-to-end try (sheesh) and get a bonus point. I'm guessing we have to win both remaining matches to win back the Bledisloe cup (just my guess - i.e. Im not sure bonus points apply to Bledisloe, although they do for TriNations) :2twocents

Ahh - with 4 matches, a 2-2 draw would mean they keep it anyway, so yes, we have to win both now.

Two more games, one in Brisbane, one in HK.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/08/03/2322478.htm
All Blacks' win courtesy of 'tactical overhaul'
Posted 40 minutes ago

New Zealand's 39-10 hammering of Australia in the Tri-Nations was down to a tactical overhaul that followed two successive defeats, All Blacks coach Graham Henry said.

The All Blacks dominated the match and kept their hopes of defending their Tri-Nations title alive, winning their 19th game in a row at Eden Park.

Australia have not won there since 1986.

"We changed the game plan around and the guys executed that exceptionally well," Henry said.

The turnaround sets up an intriguing third match between the two in Brisbane on September 13.

"The next contest is going to be massive, because both teams will have an equal amount of edge," Henry said.
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Australian captain Stirling Mortlock insisted the Wallabies had made the effort but things did not go their way.

"The harder we tried the more we seemed to dig ourselves into a hole," he said.

"We'll lick our wounds, we'll get a break now for a week and regroup."

New Zealand edged to the top of the Tri-Nations table after securing a bonus point for scoring four tries, with Australia second ahead of South Africa.
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Why did the Wallabies change strategy?

Last week Giteau and Barnes kicked for the corners in the all-blacks 22 and we killed them.

This week, we stopped doing that, tried to run at them, which was never going to work at Eden park, and tried pointless kicks to wingers that were half out of the field.

And to make it worse, the all blacks adopted our strategy from last week and did it better than us.

I hope the wallabies learn alot from that game. Grats to the ABs.
 
http://www.abc.net.au/news/sport/rugbyunion/

Anyone brave enough to bet how this game will go? lol
Talk about peaks and troughs... sheesh.
We thrash the Blacks, they thrash us
We thrash the Boks, they thrash us ...

Dean confident (?) axes 5 ;)
meanwhile AllBlacks maintain same team (again)

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/09/2359447.htm

Deans swings axe for All Blacks tussle
Coach Robbie Deans has made five changes to the starting line-up for Saturday's Tri-Nations decider against New Zealand in Brisbane.

Inside centre Tamana Tahu, flanker Phil Waugh, utility forward Hugh McMeniman, prop Matt Dunning and hooker Tatahu Polota-Nau have all been axed following the Wallabies' record 53-8 thrashing by South Africa on August 30.
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http://centrebet.com/cust?action=GoSports
Trinations Game 9 ...

Aust $2.40
NZ $1.57

(pretty much like McCain and Obama respectively)
 
2020hindsight said:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/sport/rugbyunion/

Anyone brave enough to bet how this game will go? lol
Talk about peaks and troughs... sheesh.
We thrash the Blacks, they thrash us
We thrash the Boks, they thrash us ...

Dean confident (?) axes 5 ;)
meanwhile AllBlacks maintain same team (again)
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Should be a cracker 20/20...

It has been quite an interesting competition, with every team having the wood on the others at some point, but with no clear favourite emerging.

I would like to think we ("cough" the AB's) will eek out a win in Brisy, but I think it will be very close and go down to the wire.

jman
 
jman2007 said:
I would like to think we ("cough" the AB's) will eek out a win in Brisy, but I think it will be very close and go down to the wire.
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jman ;)
hate to say it, but if I had $1000 to bet with (which I don't) - no way would I be putting it on the aussies lol.

tell you what though - Robbie Deans is a gentleman. (for a Kiwi anyway lol)

I take it that the Wallabies have to win both the remaining Bledisloe games to win back the Cup (?)
 
2020hindsight said:
jman ;)
hate to say it, but if I had $1000 to bet with (which I don't) - no way would I be putting it on the aussies lol.

tell you what though - Robbie Deans is a gentleman. (for a Kiwi anyway lol)

I take it that the Wallabies have to win both the remaining Bledisloe games to win back the Cup (?)
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Well I gather there isn't much love lost between Deans and Graham Henry either, so could be a bit if a personal grudge match too..lol!

You also have to factor in that no team likes getting 50 points chalked up against them either, so I expect the Wallabies to be very confrontational.

Yes I think there are two more games left between Oz and NZ(?). I haven't managed to figure out if the Hong Kong game actually counts towards the Bledisloe, or is more of an exhibition game... but yeah, the Wallabies will probably have to win both I guess.

jman
 

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