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Bitcoin price discussion and analysis

It's the best odds if you know all the probabilities of each hand. Still negative expectancy though (of course).

The only caper with a positive expectancy is horseracing, if you know people in low places



If you don't wish to lose a limb, end up deceased or broke, for the uninitiated, roulette gives the best odds.

Even better than speccies on the ASX or BTC.


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If you don't wish to lose a limb, end up deceased or broke, for the uninitiated, roulette gives the best odds.

Even better than speccies on the ASX or BTC.

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I am a fan of roulette, but realistically craps and casino war have the best ods, without the dreaded 0 or the everhated double 00 tables to give the bank more edge
 
If you don't wish to lose a limb, end up deceased or broke, for the uninitiated, roulette gives the best odds.

Even better than speccies on the ASX or BTC.

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The thing with roulette is that you have a negative expectancy of 2.7% (single 0) and there is no way you can overcome that.

Whereas, blackjack is ~0.5%, IF you understand the probabilities and play to the odds of each hand. (Positive if you know how to count cards but they will kick you out).

My long-term expectancy with horse racing is about +1.5% on capital per meeting.

A lot of punters wouldn't think that as very spectacular but I have jigged my system so that it has an almost zero risk of ruin... And when you compound that, it's a nice little earner while you are drinking Guinness and having a good time.
 
Thank you @wayneL .

Like many punters I do not really know the best odds.

And as you point out it is the odds of each hand in Sr.Blackjack, too much mathematics for this poor little ex-Guinness drinker.

I have always admired punters who can calculate the expectancy. Per meeting 1.5% compounding is not to be sniffed at.

I like roulette, the vibe the ooh and the aah, so I'll put up with the negative expectancy and forgoe buying drinks.

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Let us back to BTC. I too briefly was a Commsec Forum maven, though many years ago.

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Most casinos use multiple and multiple decks now so card counting is a bit obselete but blackjack or casino war is as close to 50/50 gamble
 
Most casinos use multiple and multiple decks now so card counting is a bit obselete but blackjack or casino war is as close to 50/50 gamble
It's harder but not impossible for those who are supremely numerate (not me, I get lost with him two or three hands LOL)

No casino game is 50/50 otherwise there is no house edge, obviously.

There must be a house edge in every game to pay for the staff, facility, and overheads.... It's why they don't like it if you figure out a way to beat their @ss.

Even in horse racing the corporates will ban you as soon as they figure out that you have worked out a positive expectancy.

Thank God for Betfair... Being a commission model, they make most of their money from winners.
 

Yeah thats right, technically its 50/50 chance but its the payouts where house gets the edge, I think they pay out less on a draw or whatever. Only need a lower payout under 1 condition which will eventually happen and in the long run the bank gets the edge.

But its romantic to get a few beers, one of those cards of the roulette wheel and mark where the ball has already landed and try map the segments hit. A true gentlemen's game!
 

The Crypto Fear & Greed Index, which monitors market sentiment using several sources, remains in a state of “extreme fear” with a reading of 20. The index, which sides along a scale of 1 to 100, plunged as low as 13 last week.

Nevertheless, net inflows into Bitcoin and multi-coin funds suggest that institutional money is slowly returning to the market. While traders remain at odds over whether the market has actually bottomed, long-term investors posit that a sub-$40,000 Bitcoin is an attractive buy opportunity.
 
ASIC talking about "regulatory responses" to the cryptocurrency market and taking "the first steps towards regulating crypto-assets which underlie exchange-traded products."


It's a bit vague but attempts at crypto regulation were inevitable. Governments must hate things they can't control. I imagine announcements such as this will spook the crypto market. Australia is a small fish, but "regulatory responses" from larger fish cannot be too far away.
 
ASIC talking about "regulatory responses" to the cryptocurrency market and taking "the first steps towards regulating crypto-assets which underlie exchange-traded products."
It seems that the hand of control is starting crush cryptos.
The USA is joining the rush to crush.
From Coindesk
These potential interferences by "the authorities" may explain BTC fall from grace.
From The Australian
I guess those who invested early and got out at or near the top will be thinking what a great investment.
Those left holding the bag may think somewhat less of it.
Those still holding gold somewhat relieved.
Mick
 
@Sean K, Gold also gets stolen all the time. War, famine, plague and crime.

Watching BTC v Gold.

There is a support/resistance line at 23.87 oz Gold for one Bitcoin.

Gold is unfortunately temporarily dependent on BTC's price to an extent.

Gold is generally rising v BTC and it now costs 1/4- 1/2 an ounce less to buy 1 BTC than it did yesterday.




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I think the US gov confiscated gold in the 30s for a nominal fee…
 
I think the US gov confiscated gold in the 30s for a nominal fee…
Trajan a good Roman Emperor confiscated all the gold mines and gold of the the king of the Dacians, Decebalus, when the latter twice crossed him around about 100AD.

No fee.

Trajan's gold coins are still being found.

I wonder whether they will be finding Gold or BTC in 2000 years time?

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The report also highlights that cryptocurrency transactions of more than 600,000 rubles (roughly $8,000) would have to be declared; otherwise, it could be considered a criminal act. Those who illegally accept cryptocurrencies as payment will incur fines.
 
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