Australian (ASX) Stock Market Forum

Big Bang theory and matters astronomical

Jump to new
wayneL said:
The Sun.... haha... that paper is just unspeakably embarrassing.

Maybe they should wait till 2012 to switch it on to prove the Mayan prophesy was correct.
29nusee.gif
Click to expand...
Thankfully, not every paper is like The Sun over here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article4670445.ece
 

Attachments

  • 29nusee.gif
    29nusee.gif
    690 bytes · Views: 21
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2008/09/05/scilhc105.xml

Scientists get death threats over Large Hadron Collider

By Roger Highfield, Science Editor
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 05/09/2008

Scientists working on the world's biggest machine are being besieged by phone calls and emails from people who fear the world will end next Wednesday, when the gigantic atom smasher starts up.

The Large Hadron Collider near Geneva, where particles will begin to circulate around its 17 mile circumference tunnel next week, will recreate energies not seen since the universe was very young, when particles smash together at near the speed of light.

Such is the angst that the American Nobel prize winning physicist Frank Wilczek of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology has even had death threats, said Prof Brian Cox of Manchester University, adding: "Anyone who thinks the LHC will destroy the world is a twat."
Click to expand...

29nusee.gif
 

Attachments

  • 29nusee.gif
    29nusee.gif
    690 bytes · Views: 16
Was it really a big bang? Was it astronomical?

Things only go bang if the pressure can't get out, so allowing it to build up. I read of a kitchen wall being blown down in a big bang when a sealed container exploded after being overheated.

I can't imagine that the pressure could not easily escape in the vast space we know about. Therefore, I have decided there was never a big bang, or indeed, a loud thump or even a fizz.

Of course, thinking about it, there could have been a lot of little bangs, thumps...spread over billions of years. Yes, this is the one I'm going for.

NOT a big bang, but, trillions of little bangs over billions of years. That's it. Problems of space are now solved and the thead can therefore, NOW END.
 
Upon further study...

I'm not sure if believe/accept in "the Higgs bosun" until proved beyond doubt.

It seems similar to a hypothesis about something (I cant put my finger on it)... light/sound/gravity works in a field similar to Mr Higgs theory. (I know it's old school anyways, can anyone shed light?)
 
noirua said:
Was it really a big bang? Was it astronomical?

Things only go bang if the pressure can't get out, so allowing it to build up. I read of a kitchen wall being blown down in a big bang when a sealed container exploded after being overheated.

I can't imagine that the pressure could not easily escape in the vast space we know about. Therefore, I have decided there was never a big bang, or indeed, a loud thump or even a fizz.

Of course, thinking about it, there could have been a lot of little bangs, thumps...spread over billions of years. Yes, this is the one I'm going for.

NOT a big bang, but, trillions of little bangs over billions of years. That's it. Problems of space are now solved and the thead can therefore, NOW END.
Click to expand...
LOL!!!
I think we 'think' the universe is 14 billion years old (not enough time for the lil big bangs?)... I can comprehend a big bang, but not without a "big crunch".
 
Anyway, it is a known fact that there is a huge black hole in the nation's finances. That hasn't destroyed the world yet!

(Maybe it wants to "do us slowly".:eek:)
 
I thought this was a funny exchange on another forum:

I guess the fact that I work at CERN must make me a VI. But I do feel that a Ph.D. in physics and several years of experience makes me somewhat more qualified to comment on this than most.

Basically the concern surrounding the LHC is totally out of proportion. The risk involved is absolutely miniscule. For the doomsday scenarios to be correct invokes physics which has barely gone beyond a theorist's wildest dream. We are far more likely to wake up tomorrow and find that house prices have returned to 1940s levels, William the Conquerer has mysteriously turned up in parliament and is now in charge of the country and that ET was in fact a real alien and Drew Barrymore is negotiating a first contact with the aforementioned alien's elder brother.

There are claims out there of all sorts of things but, quite frankly, the public is not even nearly well enough equipped to decide for themselves. If you really must concern yourself, how about considering the energy required to do the damage proposed? Do you think highly enough of science that we can actually harness this sort of power? If so, why do you then doubt it so?! Have you thought to consider the history of these fears? They are not unique to the LHC. Many of those who spout nonsense have done so before. Did the tevatron destroy the world? Did it destroy anything? Have you even heard of it?! Well the tevatron was the LHC simply SSDD.

Catch yourselves on guys. This sort of thing is simply beyond the understanding of the general population. An average person can no more pass learned judgement here than he can beat Tiger Woods at golf.
Click to expand...

Since we are talking about a mini black hole being formed which will head for the centre
of the earth and will start sucking the entire planet into its cute little orifice, I think we
would be more reassured to hear that the risk is ...

ABSOLUTELY F*CKING ZERO ! !

"Miniscule" just doesn't do it for me, in these circumstances
Click to expand...

LOL
 
wayneL said:
I thought this was a funny exchange on another forum:





LOL
Click to expand...
I'd say the word miniscule in your quote is equal/similar to the cosmological constant. :eek: OMG its equal to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 or there abouts :rolleyes:
 
Pat said:
I'd say the word miniscule in your quote is equal/similar to the cosmological constant. :eek: OMG its equal to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 or there abouts :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

So we should be worried then?

:D:D
 
Pat said:
I'd say the word miniscule in your quote is equal/similar to the cosmological constant. :eek: OMG its equal to 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001 or there abouts :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

Jayzuz! So basically more chance of destroying the earth than winning lotto!!

:D
 
Pat said:
Yes.
Reason being, we may actually find, or this leads to the find, that we are actually living a "Matrix" type life... everything seems so... planned out.
Click to expand...
We are living in a Matrix type life IMO. It's extremely hard to break out of the routine and dogmatic expectations implanted in us through our nature and nurture. Hardly anyone really escapes it. We're all robots; waking up, going to work, working 9-5, going home, recreating, mowing the lawn, doing the dishes, watching some US sitcom, going to bed. Repeat, repeat, repeat. zzzzzzzzz
 
This is from another thread but probably belongs here.

noirua said:
So many people have set their hearts on solving the problem of the Creation of the Universe with a "ONE BIG BANG THEORY". What a load of cobblers.
Click to expand...

Cobblers indeed, that's a common misnomer.
The Big Bang Theory says nothing about the creation of the universe, nothing about what banged, how it banged or if it banged at all.

Quite obviously this took very many billions of years, AND YES, there were trillions of little bangs going off all over the place.
In terms of size these little bangs were indeed quite large, but but but, only small in UNIVERSE terms.
Click to expand...

This is a POSSIBILITY ... after all, whats so special about our universe?
Have a read of the Ekpyrotic universe here.
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/~steinh/npr/

No infinities :cool:

"No No No", I hear you say. However, get clever for once in your life.
Click to expand...
:eek:
 
wayneL said:
Jayzuz! So basically more chance of destroying the earth than winning lotto!!

:D
Click to expand...
Sorry, no where near enough zeros. It's I part in a trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion trillion.
10^120 I think.

:topic

I heard somewhere you have more chance of being murdered six times than winning lotto. :eek:
 
Top