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BEPPA can be converted when management choses, but to issue more than 15% of new capital the issue must be approved by unitholders. So management need to ensure they have sufficient voting clout to get this across the line.
Furthermore, associated sales of assets may be at amounts lower than their current book values.
is it just a majority vote by BBI holders to approve the issuing of new capital or do they require a higher % like 75%?
If so the cornerstone investor will need a stake and/or mates with a stake to get the deal across the line?
If he doesnt have/cant get the votes why would ordinary shareholders dilute themselves to oblivion via approving the issue of new capital.
If you face losing your investment via dilution why not stick it to the board vote down the proposal and see the company wound up. At least then you can get some joy out of the board losing their jobs and being in charge of a company that failed.
is it just a majority vote by BBI holders to approve the issuing of new capital or do they require a higher % like 75%?
If so the cornerstone investor will need a stake and/or mates with a stake to get the deal across the line?
If he doesnt have/cant get the votes why would ordinary shareholders dilute themselves to oblivion via approving the issue of new capital.
If you face losing your investment via dilution why not stick it to the board vote down the proposal and see the company wound up. At least then you can get some joy out of the board losing their jobs and being in charge of a company that failed.
It would be interesting to hear:
1. How many holders here bought because they were first made aware of the stock by BB?
Not I.
2. How many did significant amount of due diligence before buying?
I did.
3. How many has the required knowledge to do such due diligence?
Sort of? 3rd Year Commerce (Corporate Finance and Account double Major) and Law University double degree student.
4. How many has an exit plan-B in place if and when the asset sales don't work out?
I got out at 13.5c, despite believing that BEPPA will be AT LEAST 20c (more than likely, much more)... but, my risk profile told me to be happy with a 35% profit.
Hmmm, no... God MIGHT exist in this case... BBI might be worth 15c soon, and I believe BEPPA will be worth AT A MINIMUM, almost twice what it is worth now...It feels like to me that BB was a priest who got a lot of people believing in God, pointing to his own research and evidence that God in fact exist. Many people blindly followed, while others accepted / saw the same evidence and became believers. Then BB later discovered that God actually doesn't exist, but is now having a hard time getting the believers to understand the new evidences.
But, again, too risky for me.
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Hmmm, no... God MIGHT exist in this case... BBI might be worth 15c soon, and I believe BEPPA will be worth AT A MINIMUM, almost twice what it is worth now...
But, again, too risky for me.
This thread always fascinates me... and the way it is unfolding requires the private investor to have a strong understanding on how corporate finance really works.
It would be interesting to hear:
1. How many holders here bought because they were first made aware of the stock by BB?
2. How many did significant amount of due diligence before buying?
3. How many has the required knowledge to do such due diligence?
4. How many has an exit plan-B in place if and when the asset sales don't work out?
It feels like to me that BB was a priest who got a lot of people believing in God, pointing to his own research and evidence that God in fact exist. Many people blindly followed, while others accepted / saw the same evidence and became believers. Then BB later discovered that God actually doesn't exist, but is now having a hard time getting the believers to understand the new evidences.
There has been a fair panic today, so I am going to look at this logically. Below are some numbers I have put together, follow those through and you will understand my logic. You can flex these as you chose, but it really boils down to the discount the market applies to the Net Assets of a revived Prime Infrastructure Trust
Known data
- *]Net Assets $1720M
- Units on issue 2591M
- Net Assets 67 cents
- BBI conversion rate 7 cents
- Total value of SPARCS and BEPPA $771M
(I am ignoring accrued BEPPA interest and assuming both are converted at
the same time)
Conversion at 7 cents
- 13605M units on issue ($771M @ 7 cents +2491M)
- Net assets now 18.3 cents ($1720M+$771M / 13605M)
- BBI price drops to 1.33 cents (pro-rata with dilution ie 2491M/13605M X 7 cents)
Investor comes in with $1billion
- Net assets now $3491M ($771M + $1720M + $1000M)
[*]Units issued to new investor=200,000M ( $1000M/0.5 cents)
[*]Total units on issue 213605M (200,000M + 13605M)
[*]Net Assets 1.63 cents ($3491M/213605M)
What does conversion mean?
1M BEPPA would convert to 14M units (1/771 x 11014M)
14M units represents $228,200 of Net Assets (14M x 1.63 cents), ie 22.8 cents per existing BEPPA.
The 22.8 cents is a function of the Net Assets attributable to the ordinaries issued as satisfaction of BEPPA/SPARCS conversion.
BUT
What value would the market put on these Net Assets?
By this time:
Considering this I think the market would pay at least 50% of Net Assets as a market value for regulated quality income stream
- Corporate debt will be virtually eliminated,
- Sweep gone
- Investment grade rating back,
- No debt problems
- Institutional buying will commence
- Cashflows from expanded DBCT received
- GFC recovery well underway.
So the if market price represents 50% of net assets, then the price for 1M BEPPAS would be $114k (Net Assets $228k x 50%)
What upside/downside is not counted above?
Downside-None as assets that are overvalued are fully impaired as at June 2009
Upside-The difference between the market value and book value of DBCT and NGPL, which I consider to be at least a $1billion.
Am I selling out of BEPPA..no, but I know its going to be a bouncy ride
Any comments?
NB- When checking I just noticed that I have used 2491 rather than 2591 for current units, the 100M makes little difference to the numbers.
Cheers
I think the only ppl who would know how much the assets are worth would be other infrastructure groups, certainly not me.
I hope your right, I would like to believe in god.
But what are you basing your statment on, I would love to hear your thoughts.
I am going to go out on a limb here and vary the above scenario adopting a "doomsday" approach.
The key assumption I will vary is the price at which units are allocated to the deep value investor. Instead I will vary this to be $1000M at 0.5 cents rather than the diluted original 1.33 cents per BBI.
Numbers affected are highlighted in bold and underlined
I am not changing the rather high 7 cents conversion price of BEPPA/SPARCS, this allows for a little more prudence in my numbers. More likely the price would be lower than 5 cents, but leave that as unrecognised upside.
The same upside as noted in the original post exists except I now consider that the following should be added:
a) There will be a non-renounceable rights issue after a reconstruction.
b) The real value to the deep value investor is moving the BBI assets out of BBI into a fund. To do this cleanly they need 100%. So I can see a situation where any investors still in the game after the above has transpired will be bought out at a premium to current market prices.
BBI is now taxing my brain and I am more and more of the view that there is pretty good upside if you bought in below about 10 cents.
Cheers
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