Doris, it's not people like yourself and the rest of the Obama fan club he needs to convince.
It's the Republicans. He can have people like you spreading the joyous message until you're blue in the face, but unless the Republicans agree to pass the legislation, it ain't going to happen.
And giving them the very valid ammunition of some of the Democratic appointees showing up as dishonest or at least dodgy isn't helping.
Americans have organized Economic Recovery House Meetings in all 50 states -- including 382 in California, 255 in Florida, 115 in Ohio, 199 in New York, 105 in Washington, and 149 in Texas.
That's more than 3,587 meetings in 1,579 cities and 429 congressional districts.
This past weekend, meeting hosts and guests watched a video of Governor Tim Kaine answering your questions about the president's recovery plan. Then they shared their own stories about how the crisis has affected them.
The media is filled with numbers about the economic crisis. But the numbers do not tell the full story.
The story of this crisis is in homes across the country -- homes where a family member has lost a job, where parents are struggling to pay a mortgage, and where college tuition has slipped out of reach.
That's also where the story of our recovery begins -- in communities where repairing roads and bridges, manufacturing green technologies, and rehabilitating our schools and hospitals will directly impact the lives of ordinary people and their families.
President Obama's recovery plan will help struggling families right now by saving or creating up to 4 million jobs. But it will also help strengthen our economy for the future by investing in crucial infrastructure projects in health care, education, and energy.
Share your story about how this economic crisis is affecting you and your family and join your fellow Americans in supporting bold action to speed our recovery:
Mitch Stewart
Director
Organizing for America
From the Obama/Biden campaign website, mybarackobama.com, here was what the Obama campaign was saying -- back then -- about the State Secrets privilege:
Apparently, the operative word in that highlighted paragraph -- unbeknownst to most people at the time -- was "the Bush administration," since the Obama administration is now doing exactly that which, during the campaign, it defined as "The Problem," the only difference being that it is now Obama, and not Bush, doing it. For journalists who haven't bothered to learn the first thing about this issue even as they hold themselves out as experts on it, and for Obama followers eager to find an excuse to justify what was done, a brief review of the State Secrets privilege controversy is in order.
Nobody -- not the ACLU or anyone else -- argues that the State Secrets privilege is inherently invalid. Nobody contests that there is such a thing as a legitimate state secret. Nobody believes that Obama should declassify every last secret and never classify anything else ever again. Nor does anyone even assert that this particular lawsuit clearly involves no specific documents or portions of documents that might be legitimately subject to the privilege. Those are all transparent, moronic strawmen advanced by people who have no idea what they're talking about.
What was abusive and dangerous about the Bush administration's version of the States Secret privilege -- just as the Obama/Biden campaign pointed out -- was that it was used not (as originally intended) to argue that specific pieces of evidence or documents were secret and therefore shouldn't be allowed in a court case, but instead, to compel dismissal of entire lawsuits in advance based on the claim that any judicial adjudication of even the most illegal secret government programs would harm national security. That is the theory that caused the bulk of the controversy when used by the Bush DOJ -- because it shields entire government programs from any judicial scrutiny -- and it is that exact version of the privilege that the Obama DOJ yesterday expressly advocated (and, by implication, sought to preserve for all Presidents, including Obama).
Go read any critic of Bush's use of the State Secrets privilege and those are the objections you will find (.pdf). Kevin Drum last night explained it quite clearly:
By itself, this [the quantitative increase in the post-9/11 use of the privilege] is bad enough. But it's not the worst part of the Bush administration's use of the privilege.
Before 2001, the state secrets privilege was mostly used to object to specific pieces of evidence being introduced in court, something that nearly everyone agrees is at least occasionally necessary. But the Bush administration changed all that. In their typical expansive way, they decided to apply the privilege not just to individual pieces of evidence, but to get entire cases thrown out of court. What's more, they did this not merely when a state secret was incidental to some unrelated complaint, but when the government itself was the target of the suit.
Now Barack Obama is president, and unfortunately he's decided to continue the Bush administration's expansive reading of the privilege.
To underscore just what a complete reversal the Obama DOJ's conduct is, consider what Seante Democrats were saying for the last several years. In early 2008, Sens. Kennedy and Leahy, along with Sen. Arlen Specter, sponsored the State Secrets Protection Act. It had numerous co-sponsors, including Joe Biden. In April, 2008, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved the bill, with all Committee Democrats voting for it, along with Specter. The scheme of restrictions imposed on the privilege by that bill was the consensus view of the pre-2009 Democratic Party.
The primary purpose of that bill is to bar the precise use of the State Secrets privilege which the Obama DOJ yesterday defended: namely, as a tool to force courts to dismiss entire lawsuits from the start without any proceedings being held, rather than as a focused instrument for protecting specific pieces of classified information from disclosure.
That bill explicitly provides that "the state secrets privilege shall not constitute grounds for dismissal of a case or claim" (Sec. 4053(b)). Instead, the President could only "invoke the state secrets privilege as a ground for withholding information or evidence in discovery or for preventing the introduction of evidence at trial" (Sec. 4054(a)), and must submit each allegedly privileged piece of evidence to the court for the court to determine whether each item is legitimately subject to the privilege (Sec. 4054(d-e). Where the court rules that a specific piece of evidence is privileged, it must attempt to find an evidentiary substitute (e.g., a summary of the evidence, a partially redacted copy, compelled admissions by the Government of certain allegations), and then -- only after all the evidence is gathered in discovery -- can the court dismiss the lawsuit only if it finds, in essence, that the plaintiffs cannot prove their case without reliance on the specific privileged information (Sec. 4055).
That has been the argument of Democrats for quite some time -- as well as civil libertarians such as Russ Feingold and the ACLU, both of whom endorsed that bill: that what was abusive and dangerous about Bush's use of the State Secrets privilege was the preemptive, generalized use of this privilege to force dismissal of entire lawsuits in advance, even where the supposed secret to be concealed was the allegedly criminal activity itself. And that is exactly the usage that the Obama administration is now defending.
It doesn't take much time or energy to understand why that instrument is so pernicious. It enables a Government to break the law -- repeatedly and deliberately -- and then block courts from subjecting its behavior to any judicial accountability, and prevent the public from learning about the lawbreaking, by claiming that its conduct generally is too secret to allow any judicial review. Put another way, it places Presidents and their aides beyond and above the rule of law, since it empowers them to break the law and then prevent their victims -- or anyone else -- from holding them accountable in a court of law. As Russ Feingold put it:
When the executive branch invokes the state secrets privilege to shut down lawsuits, hides its programs behind secret OLC opinions, over-classifies information to avoid public disclosure, and interprets the Freedom of Information Act as an information withholding statute, it shuts down all of the means to detect and respond to its abuses of the rule of law – whether those abuses involve torture, domestic spying, or the firing of U.S. Attorneys for partisan gain.
In defending the Obama administration's position (without beginning to understand it), The Atlantic's Marc Ambinder revealingly wrote -- on behalf of civil libertarians who he fantasizes have anointed him their spokesman:
It wouldn't be wise for a new administration to come in, take over a case from a prosecutor, and completely change a legal strategy in mid-course without a more thorough review of the national security implications. And, of course, the invocation itself isn't necessarily an issue; civil libertarians and others who voted for Obama did so with the belief that his judgment and his attorney general would be better stewards of that privilege than President Bush and his attorney generals (and vice president.)
We don't actually have a system of government (or at least we're not supposed to) where we rely on the magnanimity and inherent Goodness of specific leaders to exercise secret powers wisely. That, by definition, is how grateful subjects of benevolent tyrants think ("this power was bad in Bush's hands because he's bad, but it's OK in Obama's hands because he is good and kind"). Countries that are nations of laws rather than of men don't rely on blind faith in the good character of leaders to prevent abuse. They rely on what we call "law" and "accountability" and "checks and balances" to provide those safeguards -- exactly the type that Democrats, when it came to the States Secret privilege, long insisted upon before January 20, 2009.
Democrats have large majorities in both houses of Congress; they ought to use it to legislatively bar the power that the Obama DOJ is now attempting to vest in the new President by enacting the legislation they spent all of last year insisting they favored. Now that the Obama DOJ is seeking to acquire that power for its new President, the need for that law is more acute than ever.
Martin Wolf said:Has Barack Obama’s presidency already failed? In normal times, this would be a ludicrous question. But these are not normal times. They are times of great danger. Today, the new US administration can disown responsibility for its inheritance; tomorrow, it will own it.
Martin Wolf: Has Obama already failed?
...it is precisely when we are in the deepest valley, when the climb is steepest, that Americans re-learn how to take the mountaintop... by taking new trails.
So true Julia
THIS was the content and point of that email.
Did you actually read it?
And my comments on his rallying the people to help him get their senator to think of their personal plights?
Below is part of the follow-up email that came today. If Obama can get people to understand what the package will do for them they can canvass their senator. The Republican ones - except the three who've voted for it already. 3/4 of Americans like Obama but only 1/2 believe his package. Possibly that half are just quoting the partisan Republicans??
Note: No-one is asked to contact their senator. But it is implied. Grass-roots in action.
Today at the first of two Townhall Style meetings (back on the campaign trail as Reagan had to do) one woman asked how people can trust the Obama administration when they chose people who hadn't paid their taxes.
Obama said: If people who had made mistakes were never appointed... you'd never lose your job.
I have a great rapport with most students as I see the whole picture. If there are dark storm clouds, these need addressing but I focus on what they do well/right and promote their silver lining. Note those guys resigned. They were not forced out despite their credentials to do the job. They left to support the new bench mark.
I'm reading John Grisham's The Appeal and am horrified by the truth behind the subterfuge of vested interests controlling elections and thus supreme court judges. (I never knew the US elected these!)
Sure it's fiction, but like David E Kelly's Boston Legal, truth is stranger than fiction.
What is Obama up to as he starts his fourth week as president?
Tomorrow:
1. Obama will sign the Stimulus Package bill in Denver Colorado.
Why there?
The Denver Museum of Nature and Science is powered by over 400 rooftop solar panels.
This template says 'This is what this package is about'.
So let me get this straight. The Man is flying a Jumbo Jet three quarters of the way across the country to sign a piece of paper to prove how much he cares about the environment?
Yes "This is what the package is about"
BO has trumpeted categorically at the signing of his US$1Trillion+ rescue package
"This is the beginning of the end."
So could I. Just so depressing to see so much hopeless mismanagement.Sorry to sound so pessimistic. Doris is in constant communication with Obama. Maybe he has told her of a magic pudding that will help us to "pick ourselves up, dust ourselves off and start all over again". I hope she can share it with us. Over to you Doris. I could do wth some cheering up.
Yep, and it's working with the majority of the population so he'll just go right on doing it.Stimulus packages dont work and only squander money and get votes, tax cuts is whats needed but the likes of Rudd will always go with the popular alternative.
Anyone think this will stop what is happening with market issues
Stimulus packages dont work and only squander money and get votes, tax cuts is whats needed but the likes of Rudd will always go with the popular alternative.
This is a the most incredibly incompetent, clueless Administration since Jimmy Carter.
Let me guess - your hero is Ronald Regan.
NFI.
So where do we go from here? Obama created so many expectations that any rational person knew he couldn't deliver.
Afghanistan is a good example. Everyone knew there is no solution there. Ruddlike, he is going to have a "comprehensive review". But prior to that review he has committed a further 17,000 troops without the faintest idea idea of what they will do when they get there, or whether they can do anything at all.
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