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hey gav, is this natural amongst bodybuilders? lol
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8VSd-IykZBw&feature=related
doris,1... I'd guess Hillary will get Health Care - but under Barack's scheme.
2. .. PS... Are rotties hypo?... or hyper as Princess Diana identified?
julia said:if it has to be hypo-allergenic that eliminates most breeds.
They'll probably end up with a silly, wussy little poodle or something similar.
sheesh my heart goes out to people who have to have a catSome dog breeds have been promoted as hypoallergenic because they do not shed their hair, shed very little, or have the same pH as human hair. However, no canine is known to be completely nonallergenic. Poodles and Poodle hybrids are commonly mistaken as being hypoallergenic, when in reality they are known to cause different forms of allergies, including bronchitis, as does any breed of dog.
Cat breeds ... etc
Obviously why he has appointed a Zionist hard-liner as his chief of staff. Must be all that world 'unity' I'm hearing about.
The more things "change", the more they stay the same hey?
I know nothing of the man - though his reputation is interesting.CHOPS said:I disagree on both counts.
He's more of a neo-con than the neo-cons. What a laugh.
LOL I only watched the first 2 seconds of that video, but I know exactly where it leads. I guess the only way to find out is to get in the gym, pump some weights and find out for yourself!:
That is from the 1979 documentry-drama "Pumping Iron". I have it on DVD, watched it dozens of times. Its a great flick, you should watch it 2020, you might like itHowever, bodybuilding today is very, very different to Arnie's day...
Lol...fair enoughSorry, 200,000.
I'm sure I have read and heard 700k elsewhere. Ah well, they are only people. Not like it's a big deal or anything.
"The question of colour is no longer asked, for it has found its ultimate answer" - Wowo - now we're getting somewhere !!
Indeed you are, if divisiveness is what you are after.
Indeed you are, if divisiveness is what you are after.
There has been a lot of hype written and spoken about Obama's victory, including; ushering in a new dawn - inspirational - agent of change - unity - togetherness - bipartisanship, and so it goes on.
The simple truth is that Obama won on racial lines. The vast majority of blacks (95%) voted for him. This massive block vote combined with a large majority of Latino voters completely overwhelmed the 56% of whites who voted Republican. These people are going to enjoy their gloating rights. Oprah Winfrey's gloating triumphalism on victory night says it all.
As blacks and Latinos are the most rapidly increasing demographics in the USA, there will probably never be another white President. This should give you and Doris something to cheer about.
The Republican party is finished. They might just have a slim chance with a black female candidate.
The simple truth is that Obama won on racial lines. The vast majority of blacks (95%) voted for him. This massive block vote combined with a large majority of Latino voters completely overwhelmed the 56% of whites who voted Republican.
.... As blacks and Latinos are the most rapidly increasing demographics in the USA, there will probably never be another white President. This should give you and Doris something to cheer about.
The Republican party is finished. They might just have a slim chance with a black female candidate.
Obama has historic youth mandate
by Politico.com Saturday November 08, 2008, 7:04 AM
Sixty-six percent of voters under age 30 preferred Obama while just 32 percent favored McCain—nearly four times the size of John F. Kennedy's lead with the group in 1960, which led him to famously declare in his inaugural address that “the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans.”
In other words, never in post-war American politics have youth voted so differently than older generations as they did in 2008.
Obama lead with the group this year is easily the largest of any newly elected president in the of modern polling.
... Until this election, no Democratic presidential nominee had won more than 45 percent of young whites in at least three decades. Obama won 54 percent of young white voters.
The youth vote made up 18 percent of the electorate this year, one point more than in the last three presidential elections. Young whites this year constituted 11 percent of the electorate, and young blacks and Hispanics 3 percent each.
Obama won precisely half of all young working class white men, ten points better than any Democrat since the Reagan era.
Obama won among young white women without a degree by 54 to 45 percent, the first time a Democrat had more than 50 percent support from this group in the post Reagan era. His highest level of support from young whites came from college-educated women, who backed him by 61 to 38 percent.
While Obama won only 24 percent of white evangelicals, a slight improvement from Kerry's 21 percent, 32 percent of young white evangelicals supported him, double the 16 percent who backed Kerrry
It's true that whilst 46% of the white vote was for the Democrats, and 53% of the white vote went to the Republicans, it is also true that the white vote also accounted for voting Bush in TWICE. As a pro-Republican could you shed some light on how you think Bush has been good for 1) the economy and 2) the standing of the US in the international community? By that I mean, not why Obama spells the end of the world as we know it, but how Bush has improved things on those two fronts? Curly one, I know.
I didn't think there was such a thing as a stupid question. Just stupid answers.You based your stupid question on a false premise. I am not pro-Republican.
700k displaced is what I must have become confused with.Lol...fair enough
Right...Have a look at this clip of Barack 'roasting' him - from 3 years ago at a fund-raiser:
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6209060
Barack's appreciation of the man holistically - the whole picture - makes it obvious why he chose him!
Perhaps you should also, or drop the teenage esque fan girling, and be able to look at things more objectively.Do some research and not be seduced by 'fear/cynical' headlines.
He favored the war in Iraq, and when he was chairing the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in 2006 he made great efforts to knock out antiwar Democratic candidates. On this site in October and November, 2006, John Walsh documented both the efforts and Emanuel’s role in losing the Democrats seats they would otherwise have won. http://www.counterpunch.org/
Bush and Obama: Their First Meeting
by Jake Tapper, ABC news.
November 09, 2008 8:38 PM
In anticipation of the White House meeting tomorrow afternoon between President Bush and President-elect Obama, here's an excerpt from "The Audacity of Hope," where then-Sen.. Obama wrote of his first meeting with the president about four years ago:
(Barack Obama)
The inside of the White House doesn’t have the luminous quality that you might expect from television or film; it seems well kept but worn, a big old house that one imagines might be a bit drafty on cold winter nights.
On a chilly January afternoon in 2005, the day before my swearing-in as a senator, I was invited there with other new members of Congress. At 1600 hours on the dot, President Bush was announced and walked to the podium, looking vigorous and fit, with that jaunty, determined walk that suggests he’s on a schedule and wants to keep detours to a minimum. For 10 or so minutes he spoke to the room, making a few jokes, calling for the country to come together, before inviting us for refreshments and a picture with him and the First Lady.
I happened to be starving, so while most of the other legislators started lining up for their photographs, I headed for the buffet. As I munched on hors d’oeuvres, I recalled an earlier encounter with the president, a small White House breakfast with me and the other incoming senators.
I had found him to be a likable man, shrewd and disciplined but with the same straightforward manner that had helped him win two elections; you could easily imagine him owning the local car dealership, coaching Little League baseball and grilling in his backyard – the kind of guy who would make for good company so long as the conversation revolved around sport and the kids.
There had been a moment during the breakfast meeting, though, after the backslapping and the small talk and when all of us were seated, with Vice-President Cheney eating his eggs benedict impassively and Karl Rove at the far end of the table discreetly checking his BlackBerry, that I had witnessed a different side of the man.
The president had begun to discuss his second-term agenda, mostly a reiteration of his campaign talking points – the importance of staying the course in Iraq and renewing the Patriot Act, the need to reform social security and overhaul the tax system, his determination to get an up-or-down vote on his judicial appointees – when suddenly it felt as if somebody in a back room had flipped a switch.
The president’s eyes became fixed; his voice took on the agitated, rapid tone of someone neither accustomed to nor welcoming interruption; his easy affability was replaced by an almost messianic certainty. As I watched my mostly Republican Senate colleagues hang on his every word, I was reminded of the dangerous isolation that power can bring, and I appreciated the wisdom of America’s founding fathers in designing a system to keep power in check.
“Senator?” I looked up, shaken out of this memory, and saw one of the older black men who made up most of the White House waiting staff standing next to me.
“Want me to take that plate for you?” I nodded, trying to swallow a mouthful of chicken something-or-other, and noticed that the line to greet the president had evaporated. A young marine at the door politely indicated that the photograph session was over and that the president needed to get to his next appointment. But before I could turn around to go, the president himself appeared.
“Obama!” he said, shaking my hand. “Come here and meet Laura. Laura, you remember Obama. We saw him on TV during election night. Beautiful family. And that wife of yours – that’s one impressive lady.”
“We both got better than we deserve, Mr. President,” I said, shaking the First Lady’s hand and hoping that I’d wiped any crumbs off my face.
The president turned to an aide nearby, who squirted a big dollop of hand sanitizer in the president’s hand.
“Want some?” the president asked. “Good stuff. Keeps you from getting colds.” Not wanting to seem unhygienic, I took a squirt.
“Come over here for a second,” he said, leading me off to one side of the room.
“You know,” he said quietly, “I hope you don’t mind me giving you a piece of advice.”
“Not at all, Mr. President.” He nodded. “You’ve got a bright future,” he said. “Very bright. But I’ve been in this town a while and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you’ve been getting, people start gunnin’ for ya. And it won’t necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody’ll be waiting for you to slip. Know what I mean? So watch yourself.”
“Thanks for the advice, Mr. President.”
“All right. I gotta get going. You know, me and you got something in common.”
“What’s that?” “We both had to debate Alan Keyes. That guy’s a piece of work, isn’t he?”
I laughed, and as we walked to the door I told him a few stories from the campaign.
It wasn’t until he had left the room that I realized I had briefly put my arm over his shoulder as we talked – an unconscious habit of mine, but one that I suspected might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy.
As I’ve been a steady and occasionally fierce critic of Bush administration policies, Democratic audiences are often surprised when I tell them that I don’t consider George Bush a bad man and that I assume he and members of his administration are trying to do what they think is best for the country.
After the trappings of office are stripped away, I find the president and those who surround him to be pretty much like everybody else, possessed of the same mix of virtues and vices, insecurities and long-buried injuries, as the rest of us.
No matter how wrongheaded I might consider their policies to be – and no matter how much I might insist that they be held accountable for the results of such policies – I still find it possible, in talking to these men and women, to understand their motives, and to recognize in them values I share.
This is not an easy posture to maintain in Washington. The stakes involved in policy debates are often so high that I can see how, after a certain amount of time in the capital, it becomes tempting to assume that those who disagree with you have fundamentally different values – indeed, that they are motivated by bad faith, and perhaps are bad people.
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