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Mr Rudd already has the problem in hand. In May 2008 he included the homeless in his his Social Inclusion Agenda. Problem solved.
Mr Rudd has very active with this agenda;
1. He sleeps rough once a year to show his is still caring.
2. He could call a conference.
3. If all else fails he will give them one of his apologies.
Or he could cut out the bullsh*t and admit there is no solution.
Do you seriously expect individuals to take matters into their own hands ?
Yes, because that's what all the ASF discussions turn into. Collective back-patting and head-knodding.Why? So that we can all sit in our cosy homes and go "tut tut".
Has no one else had this discussion before w.r.t. your own home? Neither my housemates at the time, or my partner now felt secure and safe enough to try this, but we did talk seriously about it at the time.If someone really was concerned, that's what he/she would do - share a spare bedroom.
Has no one else had this discussion before w.r.t. your own home? Neither my housemates at the time, or my partner now felt secure and safe enough to try this, but we did talk seriously about it at the time.
I wouldn't want a stranger in my home. If I wanted to do something to help, I'd go down to the city at night, get to know a few people personally over a period of time, then invite them to live in my investment property for a while (if I had one) or garage.
I wouldn't want a stranger in my home. If I wanted to do something to help, I'd go down to the city at night, get to know a few people personally over a period of time, then invite them to live in my investment property for a while (if I had one) or garage.
It's just remotely possible most Australians have neither an investment property nor a spare room, so your suggestion is less than helpful imo.I wouldn't want a stranger in my home. If I wanted to do something to help, I'd go down to the city at night, get to know a few people personally over a period of time, then invite them to live in my investment property for a while (if I had one) or garage.
I don't expect anything of anyone; just giving an answer. Julia asked for a solution to the problem of homelessness, and there's no more direct, obvious or immediately effective solution than the one I pointed out. Homelessness could very easily be solved in one day if enough people wanted that to happen If someone really was concerned, that's what he/she would do - share a spare bedroom.
Yes, because that's what all the ASF discussions turn into. Collective back-patting and head-knodding.
Yes, because that's what all the ASF discussions turn into. Collective back-patting and head-knodding.
Homeless is very often a symptom not the problem. To say just provide cheap housing and a decent job or a room in your house till someone gets back on their feet is in many of the cases, particularly the long term and young, completely missing the point and very uniformed.
No it's not. Everyone knows people end up homeless because of mental problems. What are you going to do - offer a freezing homeless person counselling? Pfff. I think a warm bed is going to help more.
I think a warm bed is going to help more.
Depends what you're actually trying to achieve. If giving someone shelter for a night is the aim then a warm bed will fix that. You've done nothing to address the root issue of why they are homeless. If someone has grown up in a house where sexual/physical/verbal abuse is the norm then offers of a warm bed are more likely to be met with suspicion. Ultimately, if someone has gotten to the point where they are living on the street in a country like Australia, it's a pipe dream if you think their situation is merely one of bad luck that will be fixed with a job and bed.
Same answer I gave TH. Are you going to offer psychological help to someone hungry and freezing? You think that will work? That's naive.
Depends what you're actually trying to achieve. If giving someone shelter for a night is the aim then a warm bed will fix that.
Did you read my first two sentences?
Considering you're the resident Frasier Crane on ASF, I'm a bit surprised that you think the long term homeless can be "fixed" with a job and a bed. If only it were that easy.
Well, if everyone took your view, of course these problems will never be resolved. You are an expert in sitting back and delivering derision, scorn and criticism on pretty much everything and everyone, with the recent exception of some young children who apparently recently charmed you with their doting mothers.All political parties rant on about homelessness, and nothing ever happens, and that's because there is no solution. The problem has always been left to charities to try to ameliorate the hardships, and the best we can hope for is dormitory overnight accommodation and giving them a Xmas dinner.
Problems like homelessness, Aboriginal housing and alcoholism will never be resolved because there are no votes in it.
Homeless is very often a symptom not the problem. To say just provide cheap housing and a decent job or a room in your house till someone gets back on their feet is in many of the cases, particularly the long term and young, completely missing the point and very uniformed.
You also know it's completely unlikely. Neither is it the responsibility of any individual to look after any other individual. Much homelessness , as TH has suggested, is a result of eg mental illness or other underlying problems, and as such needs to be addressed at a national or at least state level.I don't expect anything of anyone; just giving an answer. Julia asked for a solution to the problem of homelessness, and there's no more direct, obvious or immediately effective solution than the one I pointed out. Homelessness could very easily be solved in one day if enough people wanted that to happen If someone really was concerned, that's what he/she would do - share a spare bedroom.
Considering you're the resident Frasier Crane on ASF,
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