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[sptrawler]

Agree 100%.
With the gas like W.A, Queensland should have had placed a reserve policy as I would think the gas is in the State jurisdiction and they get royalties off it. I may be wrong but like with the Scarborough gas project in the NW of W.A some falls under State and that which is further out falls under Federal.
Also as Smurf pointed out, apparently there are several other options, other than Snowy 2.0, where pumped hydro can be installed.

 

[wayneL]

Perhaps, while everyone is virtue signalling about cutting emmisions and fanciful schemes, people should just cut their consumption to the levels of "the good old days".

 

[sptrawler]

What, go back to one T.V no air conditioner, no bar fridge, sounds like the son living off grid. ?

Could you imagine the new generation giving up their electronic devices, I don't think so.
I've mentioned it before, if we could go back to living as we did in the 1960, all the coal generation could probably be shut down.

 

[PZ99]

What, go back to one T.V no air conditioner, no bar fridge, sounds like the son living off grid. ?

Could you imagine the new generation giving up their electronic devices, I don't think so.
I've mentioned it before, if we could go back to living as we did in the 1960, all the coal generation could probably be shut down.

The weather wasn't a problem back then - everyone just dressed up in black and white ?

I could easily give up the electronics but sadly I've got no way of proving on here

In any case, all my bills are paid well in advance.

 

[wayneL]

Could you imagine the new generation giving up their electronic devices, I don't think so.

But they'll glue themselves to the road, demanding "climate action".

Classic cognitive dissonance.

 

[basilio]

How did the The Greens manage to win an extra 3 Brisbane House of Reps seats? Where do they go next ?

Check out this story on the hundreds of thousands of one to one conversations the Greens had with voters which ultimately resulted in electoral victory. (By the way this model was also the basis for the Teal candidates getting elected)

Knock-on effect: Greens to target ‘quiet Australians’ with winning campaign template​

Having claimed three Brisbane seats by door-knocking and listening, party now has sights set on the suburbs

‘Where we’re able to do that sort of community organising and door-knocking, our vote surges’: New Griffith Greens MP Max Chandler-Mather out in the community during the election campaign. Photograph: Jono Searle/AAP

Ben Smee

@BenSmee
Fri 3 Jun 2022 21.00 BSTLast modified on Fri 3 Jun 2022 22.01 BST


Brisbane’s new Greens MPs talk about the moments they “flipped” voters – the driveway conversions of climate unbelievers or hostile folks who had only ever supported the major parties.

The party’s “social work” style doorknocking campaign – focused on building relationships and listening to voters’ material concerns rather than spruiking – proved wildly successful in Brisbane, culminating in the capture of three federal seats.

Now, the Greens are planning to vastly expand the strategy’s footprint, to take on political contests in the outer suburbs.

“Once you have that experience [of successfully engaging a voter], you realise that the only barrier to expanding our representation is our capacity to organise,” says Max Chandler-Mather, the architect of the strategy and the new federal MP for Griffith.
“What’s proven with our campaign methods is that where we’re able to do that sort of community organising and door-knocking, our vote surges.

“That organisational foundation we’ve built is going to allow us to project out across the state quickly.”

Knock-on effect: Greens to target ‘quiet Australians’ with winning campaign template

Having claimed three Brisbane seats by door-knocking and listening, party now has sights set on the suburbs

www.theguardian.com

 

[wayneL]

God help us ?

 

[mullokintyre]

One of the beauties of personal door knocking over mass advertising is that you can really target your marketing.
Firstly, because the AEC and truth in advertising are not aware of what the door knockers say, they can say just about anything they like and get away witth it.
Secondly, depending on the size of the buildings, the cars in the driveway, how many solar panels they have on the roof, the canvasser has a reasonable handle on the level of affluence of the target audience.
Thus they can tailor their spiel to the potential biases of the householder.
It matters little whether there is any truth, substance, logic or accuracy in the spiel, just whether it might resonate with the recipient.
Mick

 

[IFocus]

God help us ?

Haha and it looks like getting worse next election they are going to target more Labor seats Greens will then have a real say in Government, you wanted the majors to get rolled be careful what you wish for.

Interestingly Barrie Cassidy said the other day he expects this to be the last election where one of the majors wins out right as the primary vote trend continues to decline for Labor / Coalition.

 

[PZ99]

If Labor or Coalition want votes back it's pretty simple. Stop hating each other to the point where the gotcha is gold. It isn't.

Labor just couldn't go with the pacific solution because they played no part in it so they came up with something worse.

Liberal just couldn't go with the NBN because they played no part in it so they came up with something worse.

They are sooo good at demonstrating the very faults they see in their opponents.

 

[sptrawler]

Ex Western Australian Premier Colin Barnett sums up the situation with politics and gas pretty well.
There are a couple of errors which I expect are printing errors (the NW to Moomba gas pipe wouldn't go across the Nullabor I wouldn't expect and the Karratha to Kalgoorlie pipe has a max diameter of 450mm, not 132 inch which is bizarre at nearly 3.5metres.

Former WA premier says Labor set to hold power for decade, calls for trans-continental gas pipeline

Anthony Albanese's election as Prime Minister likely heralds a "decade of Labor" in power, Colin Barnett says, adding his old party is in a "desperate situation" at a federal and state level.

www.abc.net.au

From the article:
A former Liberal premier says Anthony Albanese's election as Prime Minister likely heralds a "decade of Labor" in power, saying his old party is in a "desperate situation" at a federal and state level.
Colin Barnett, WA premier between 2008 and 2017, said the Liberal Party needed to modernise itself by recruiting a new generation of future leaders.
"The Liberal Party is in a desperate situation," Mr Barnett told Afternoon Briefing.
"And I think Australia's is looking at a scenario of probably a decade of Labor, and in Western Australia the same, so this is a bad time for the Liberal Party.

In WA, both the Labor and Liberal parties support a policy of gas reservation under which 15 per cent of gas produced must be set aside for the domestic market.
No other state or territory has such a policy.
This has meant that while wholesale gas is between $5.50 and $6.50 a gigajoule in WA, it is $40 a gigajoule in the eastern states after the regulator slapped producers with a price cap.
About 90 per cent of Australia's gas reserves are off WA's north-western coast, with most of the big gas fields in Commonwealth waters.
"Put simply, the gas belongs to Australia," Mr Barnett said.

"The policy about giving gas and energy security to the major cities of Australia, south-east Australia, really have been very inept for the last 15 years. There hasn't been long-term planning.
Mr Barnett said Australia should commission a gas pipeline between WA and South Australia's Moomba gas fields to bolster domestic supply.

"We need to do what other countries around the world have done and that is build a trans-Australian gas pipeline," he told the ABC.

"It would be a big project and expensive project, but it is one that would pay for itself and could be done quite easily by private enterprise. Most continents around the world have trans-continental pipelines the Americas, Europe and so on."
He estimated such a pipeline would cost about $6 billion but said Mr Albanese could embrace it as a "big nation-building project" funded by Australian superannuation funds.
"There are no mountain ranges in the way, no real barriers, and a pipeline would go from the north-west coast of Western Australia, across the Nullarbor and into the Moomba gas field area in South Australia and then distributed more widely through the east coast through existing pipelines."

He said that in his time as premier, a 1,500km, 132-inch pipeline between the Pilbara to Kalgoorlie was built in 10 months.

"So if a decision was made today to go down the path of the trans-Australian pipeline, it would take three years — the major delay would be simply procuring the steel pipe," he said.

"And Australia, being such a major producer of international gas, really should be doing it for its own people.

"After all, it's Australia's gas."

 

[basilio]

So which story is political reporting and which one is not... ?

Indigenous leaders lament debate over $25m Harbour Bridge flag plan​

'It's a joke': Indigenous leaders lament debate over $25m Harbour Bridge flag plan

Indigenous leaders say a debate about the cost of installing a third flag pole on the Sydney Harbour Bridge, which also includes the refurbishment and replacement of two existing poles, is being used to divide people.

www.abc.net.au

REVEALED: Itemised costings for installing flag on Sydney Harbour Bridge

Yesterday NSW Premier Dominic Perrottet revealed that a $25 million contract had been awarded to install an Aboriginal flag on top of the Sydney Harbour Bridge.

While we were ecstatic to win the installation contract, we were not prepared for the backlash from the general public. In the interests of transparency, we have agreed to release the line-by-line costings for the installation project.

REVEALED: Itemised costings for installing flag on Sydney Harbour Bridge

News you can believe in

www.theshovel.com.au

 

[wayneL]

The Shovel is on the money.

 

[sptrawler]

Well it looks as though things are starting to get real, some of the hard decisions required are manifesting.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/actu-sally-mcmanus-reserve-bank-wages-inflation/101176680

Key points:​

• Ms McManus says the RBA was not "in touch with reality"
• She argues unions are incapable of delivering across-the-board wage rises in line with headline inflation
• The Labor government has backed RBA's view on real wage cut

 

[mullokintyre]

Well it looks as though things are starting to get real, some of the hard decisions required are manifesting.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-23/actu-sally-mcmanus-reserve-bank-wages-inflation/101176680

Key points:​

• Ms McManus says the RBA was not "in touch with reality"
• She argues unions are incapable of delivering across-the-board wage rises in line with headline inflation
• The Labor government has backed RBA's view on real wage cut

Although I agree with the premise, Ms Mcmanus is hardly in a position to determine who or who is not in touch with reality.
If as she says, Unions are incapable of delivering across the board wage rises in line with headline inflation, what on earth is the point of joining one?
Is is perhaps no great surprise that the percentage of working folk joining unions in the private sector has been consistently declining.
Mick

 

[sptrawler]

Although I agree with the premise, Ms Mcmanus is hardly in a position to determine who or who is not in touch with reality.
If as she says, Unions are incapable of delivering across the board wage rises in line with headline inflation, what on earth is the point of joining one?
Is is perhaps no great surprise that the percentage of working folk joining unions in the private sector has been consistently declining.
Mick

I was always in a union and they can do great things, but the union is only as good as those who are in it and those who represent their members.
If you have lazy members, it doesn't work, if you have lazy reps it doesn't work.
It is like every organisation be it a charity, a social club, a union, or a political party, a lot depends on the integrity of those at the top.
No matter how hard the hamsters at the bottom are pedaling, it is those at the top who are steering it.

 

[PZ99]

You can thank the last 2 decades of Govt policy for that. Australia is one of the most oppressive countries in the world when it comes to banning a basic right to strike and without that right, your union won't get very far.

So why join one? Because if you don't you'll probably end up like all those thousands of workers that are victims of rampant wage theft. Taking legal action against your employer without the backing of a union is career suicide.

 

[mullokintyre]

Dominic Perrotet was on the Ball when he suggested thgt 28 Million to place a large Aboriginal Flag on the Sydney Harbour Bridge.\ did not pass the Pub Test, and joined the chorus of guffaws,
Unfortunately for Dominic, his radar on what does or does not pass the pub test was grossly astray when he allowed the former National Party leader and coalition vice premier to be appointed as trade ambassador for NSW.
Jobs for the boys, the D$#%heads just can't help them selves.
Mick

 

[mullokintyre]

Seems like Dan Andrews may be in a spot of bother if the number of rats deserting the sinking ship syndrome is anything to go by.
Apart from the seven MP's Mark Gepp, Richard Wynne Jill Hennesy , Dustin Halse , John Eren , Jane Garett and Danielle Green who all resigned immediately within a two week period back in December 2021, the was Luke Donellan who resigned in October of the branch stacking recordings, and of course there was Adam Somnurek who may well recontest as an independant over the same issue.
And then of course there was Jenny Mikakos who was thrown under a bus by Andrews over the mess that became Covid back in June 2021.
None of them will be recontesting for Labour.
Early in 2022 we had Labour MP Vaghela Kaushallys forced to resign after crossing the floor over the so called "red shirts "investigation.
Today we have had the announcement that Deputy Premier James Merlino, Health Minister Martin Foley, Industry Support, Tourism, Sport and Major Events Minister Martin Pakula and Police and Water Minister Lisa Neville are all set to step down from cabinet and not contest the November state election.
Thats a total of 15 members who will not be contesting for the Labour party.
Lucky he had a wacking great majority or he may have run out of fodder.
Mick

 

[Smurf1976]

Well it looks as though things are starting to get real, some of the hard decisions required are manifesting.

We've had a smoke and mirrors economy for an extremely long time now and it's only good luck with mineral prices combined with spending the past and borrowing from the future that has kept real wages up.

People are in for one hell of a shock.