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Really do you guys ever think Wayne never told you or I to have a vaccine, we have so we are safe, why keep trolling him for his choice not to.
He makes his choices, we make ours, so be it.

Ive got a deaf daughter having serious health issues, because of mask mandates, people wont pull down their masks so she can lipread, they abuse her for asking.
She comes home has a meltdown because she doesnt have a clue what anyone is saying.
Now she is on anti anxiety medication, why she just doesnt go onto disability amazes me, the $hitheads she has to deal with are on welfare.
Australia heading around the bend.lol
 
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Really do you guys ever think Wayne never told you or I to have a vaccine, we have so we are safe, why keep trolling him for his choice not to.
He makes his choices, we make ours, so be it.

Ive got a deaf daughter having serious health issues, because of mask mandates, people wont pull down their masks so she can lipread, they abuse her for asking.
She comes home has a meltdown because she doesnt have a clue what anyone is saying.
Now she is on anti anxiety medication, why she just doesnt go onto disability amazes me, the $hitheads she has to deal with are on welfare.
Australia heading around the bend.lol
The 'leftist crew' like to pis5 their pants over people not conforming.

Yet another example of the "one of us" mantra pushing.
 
I know that many people on AF regard the Murdoch press as the spawn of the devil, but one of the reasons why I read the Austraian is that they give politicians or ex politicians a chance to write something from their perspective. In recent times we have had Stephen Looseley Anthony Albanese, Kristine Keneally and Bob Carr, as well as Friedenberg, Tony Abbott , Dutton, and a few others I did not bother to read.
Today, its the turn of Adam Bandt, leader of the greens. There was nothing surprising in his article, but i am sure it would comfort to green supporters.
in an unfortunate juxtaposition, a separate article shows that support for the Greens has fallen to 8%.

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Whether these poll figures bear any resemblance to reality is a moot point, but its the only figures we have currently.
I was a little surprised at this, as I thought that with their commitment to zero emissions etc, they would have garnered more support, given that according to some, climate change is an existential threat to humanity.
Also surprising was a fall from a high of 8% in 2018 to barely 4% today for One Nation. I thought that with the consistent polarisation of the nation, they would have picked up more of the far right wing folks.
Not surprisingly there was a sharp increase in the "other groupings", which include the actual parties like Animal Justice, Lib dems, Clive Palmer etc as well as the "independents".
So it would seem that in 2019, 5 percentage points or so leaked from Labour to the greens, since then most of that greens swing has leaked back to Labour.
At about the same time, the independent groups polling collapsed and seems to have shifted to mostly the Coalition, and a small bit to one nation.
Looking at the chart, it would appear that none of these "other" deserters shifted to labour.
This may have some ramifications come election time when the allocation of preferences comes into play. If so many Greens votes have shifted to Labour, they may not get the preference flow as big as usual (assuming they need it).
Conversely, the preference to the coalition may be larger than in the past , and they will certainly need it.
As usual, these charts are useless when it comes to looking at crucial closey fought individual seats, which is where the battle will be won or lost.
Mick
 
I know that many people on AF regard the Murdoch press as the spawn of the devil, but one of the reasons why I read the Austraian is that they give politicians or ex politicians a chance to write something from their perspective. In recent times we have had Stephen Looseley Anthony Albanese, Kristine Keneally and Bob Carr, as well as Friedenberg, Tony Abbott , Dutton, and a few others I did not bother to read.
Today, its the turn of Adam Bandt, leader of the greens. There was nothing surprising in his article, but i am sure it would comfort to green supporters.
in an unfortunate juxtaposition, a separate article shows that support for the Greens has fallen to 8%.

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Whether these poll figures bear any resemblance to reality is a moot point, but its the only figures we have currently.
I was a little surprised at this, as I thought that with their commitment to zero emissions etc, they would have garnered more support, given that according to some, climate change is an existential threat to humanity.
Also surprising was a fall from a high of 8% in 2018 to barely 4% today for One Nation. I thought that with the consistent polarisation of the nation, they would have picked up more of the far right wing folks.
Not surprisingly there was a sharp increase in the "other groupings", which include the actual parties like Animal Justice, Lib dems, Clive Palmer etc as well as the "independents".
So it would seem that in 2019, 5 percentage points or so leaked from Labour to the greens, since then most of that greens swing has leaked back to Labour.
At about the same time, the independent groups polling collapsed and seems to have shifted to mostly the Coalition, and a small bit to one nation.
Looking at the chart, it would appear that none of these "other" deserters shifted to labour.
This may have some ramifications come election time when the allocation of preferences comes into play. If so many Greens votes have shifted to Labour, they may not get the preference flow as big as usual (assuming they need it).
Conversely, the preference to the coalition may be larger than in the past , and they will certainly need it.
As usual, these charts are useless when it comes to looking at crucial closey fought individual seats, which is where the battle will be won or lost.
Mick
I wonder if the Democrats/Republicans started off like this?
Is this the start of the same thing here. I'm actually surprised by the above.

In the US you seem to either be a Democrat or Republican and nothing in-between.

Early days though.
Social media will probably win it and Labor feels like it's winning on there. A lot of young adults being indoctrinated on there. Good marketing imo.
 
I think we are more discerning in Australia and everyone votes and we know we can direct preferences.
The Greens are blockers. I am not surprised they are losing votes.
 
I think we are more discerning in Australia and everyone votes and we know we can direct preferences.
The Greens are blockers. I am not surprised they are losing votes.
I'd say you are probably smarter then the average voter. Most don't know anything about anything.
 
I know that many people on AF regard the Murdoch press as the spawn of the devil, but one of the reasons why I read the Austraian is that they give
I wouldn't be to worried about a few pissants in the hive of Trotsyists that infest the pg's of this forum.
but maybe... maybe these?
What's Lachlan's brothers name ? illudes me for the moment, you know the one; fronted up to the Levinson inquiery into phone hacking with dear old pop... bit more intigrated into the 'goings on' ... And has had a bit to say about 'da firm' since...
And those dastardly accusers of Roger Ailes...'hussies'
Ever heard of a bloke named Bob Fisk? Mulligan... got a lovely little anicdote by Bob on Piers Ackamann; only covering up the deaths of forty odd school girls.... didn't suit the days narative.
Ahh the soothing embrace of 'the Catholic Boy's Daily' ....



politicians or ex politicians a chance to write something from their perspective.
Who's should they write it from?
You may not have noticed Mulligan but the Deputy Premier and Premier of NSW have both recently resigned... I wonder how much we'll here from them?
got bit of long form 'YouTube' journalism that went to the core of their downfall, all un-reported by NewsCorp on those two....
Ahh with Murdoch it's so much easier just not to know....

'Most people would rather die than think ....and most do' Bertrand Russell.
 
I know that many people on AF regard the Murdoch press as the spawn of the devil, but one of the reasons why I read the Austraian is that they give politicians or ex politicians a chance to write something from their perspective.

I doubt if many politicians write what they really believe.

Instead they write what they think is politically acceptable.

Very cynical I know, but is any pollie going to write that taxes need to be increased if they really believe it ?

The media and the voters would crucify them.
 
I doubt if many politicians write what they really believe.

Instead they write what they think is politically acceptable.

Very cynical I know, but is any pollie going to write that taxes need to be increased if they really believe it ?

The media and the voters would crucify them.
It is this which gives me some sympathy with the views of Michael Malice. :p
 
I know that many people on AF regard the Murdoch press as the spawn of the devil, but one of the reasons why I read the Austraian is that they give politicians or ex politicians a chance to write something from their perspective. In recent times we have had Stephen Looseley Anthony Albanese, Kristine Keneally and Bob Carr, as well as Friedenberg, Tony Abbott , Dutton, and a few others I did not bother to read.
Today, its the turn of Adam Bandt, leader of the greens. There was nothing surprising in his article, but i am sure it would comfort to green supporters.
in an unfortunate juxtaposition, a separate article shows that support for the Greens has fallen to 8%.

View attachment 137566

Whether these poll figures bear any resemblance to reality is a moot point, but its the only figures we have currently.
I was a little surprised at this, as I thought that with their commitment to zero emissions etc, they would have garnered more support, given that according to some, climate change is an existential threat to humanity.
Also surprising was a fall from a high of 8% in 2018 to barely 4% today for One Nation. I thought that with the consistent polarisation of the nation, they would have picked up more of the far right wing folks.
Not surprisingly there was a sharp increase in the "other groupings", which include the actual parties like Animal Justice, Lib dems, Clive Palmer etc as well as the "independents".
So it would seem that in 2019, 5 percentage points or so leaked from Labour to the greens, since then most of that greens swing has leaked back to Labour.
At about the same time, the independent groups polling collapsed and seems to have shifted to mostly the Coalition, and a small bit to one nation.
Looking at the chart, it would appear that none of these "other" deserters shifted to labour.
This may have some ramifications come election time when the allocation of preferences comes into play. If so many Greens votes have shifted to Labour, they may not get the preference flow as big as usual (assuming they need it).
Conversely, the preference to the coalition may be larger than in the past , and they will certainly need it.
As usual, these charts are useless when it comes to looking at crucial closey fought individual seats, which is where the battle will be won or lost.
Mick
And you wonder Why?
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Well if it comes down to one vote.....it's my fault
Obviously yes, if you didn't vote.
What surprised me more, was you posting up Murdoch news, it is written to a much higher level than you reading skill set. ?
The coloured pictures must have caught your attention.
 
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