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[SirRumpole]

I wonder if the ALP would change NG even if they did get in.

The smugness of Turnbull and Bishop turns me off but the stupidity and self interest of that union hack Shorten doesn't inspire me either.

The kids need to be given a chance in this world -

If Labor had no intention of changing NG it would have been best not to bring the subject up in the first place.

As it is, their plan does not disadvantage anyone currently claiming NG deductions, so in a sense it's the easy way out, but it's better than the no change policy of the LNP.

 

[MrBurns]

If Labor had no intention of changing NG it would have been best not to bring the subject up in the first place.

As it is, their plan does not disadvantage anyone currently claiming NG deductions, so in a sense it's the easy way out, but it's better than the no change policy of the LNP.

I agree, but I think it would make a huge difference for the better, existing housing would be left alone and new dwellings would be taken up by investors, there's an oversupply there anyway.

Unfortunately politicians lie and my fear is that Shorten would find a way to reneg.

 

[Tisme]

I heard Dick Smith may run in Bronwyn Bishop's seat.



BTW I agree with your other comments. It's a matter of the least worst option.

LIke most of our generation we were brought up to button our lips, don't say anything you didn't want the whole world to hear, go to school, get a job ... piss off and make you own way, die shortly after retiring, from a stroke/infarction/TB (mainstream cancer hadn't been invented then).

We were expected to treat politics like a football comp that essentially comprised two teams who were essentially the same, but one wore red and was supposedly from the working class and the other wore blue who were also from the working class, but had it in their minds that their working class was a better political neighbourhood than the identical political neighbourhood on the other side of the street with even numbers on the letter box.

Any international visitor was asked how they were "finding" Oztraya and the only political correctness of its day was that we expected a polite, albeit strangled response back to reinforce our choice in being born here.

Life was sweet back in the day, when we craved attention, considered how Stevie Wright would teach the POMS about Friday nights and minds. We didn't have to worry about politics, because we all knew that was how it was ... and considered it all a fait accompli ... until a fella named Whitlam appeared as if an appariton that is.

Old days we actually looked forward to wasting our Saturday wandering down to the polling booth and acting like we were important and about to ballot the winning ticket, such was our place in society, when infact we had a system where the incumbent govt had manufactured the gerrymandered boundaries over its otherwise do nothing faster than snails pace term in office.

Today the two majors are shadows of their former past and it makes me wonder how long before the domestic brainwashing we all enjoyed from the cradle finally disappears and we end up with a totally rudderless ship of instant gratification political policy.

 

[SirRumpole]

Today the two majors are shadows of their former past and it makes me wonder how long before the domestic brainwashing we all enjoyed from the cradle finally disappears and we end up with a totally rudderless ship of instant gratification political policy.

We had that with Howard, politics was about being "relaxed and comfortable" cossetted with Family Tax benefits , superannuation tax concessions and negative gearing.

Open the doors to migrants, but don't build any infrastructure for them, don't bother with education because the mining boom will take care of that.

Vacuous politics.

 

[ggkfc]

and look at how we are now

everybody gambling on capital gains on property, plugging away at the NG

 

[Tisme]

and look at how we are now

everybody gambling on capital gains on property, plugging away at the NG

Another Labor Party invention that oddly enough isn't being destroyed by govt ....yet

 

[Tisme]

A refresher in how much our politics has changed and the level of nothingness we have sunk to: (I find myself associating one of our members to this caller )

 

[SirRumpole]

A refresher in how much our politics has changed and the level of nothingness we have sunk to: (I find myself associating one of our members to this caller )

Yep, clear and concise, no bs, call a spade a spade and fight for justice.

Is there another Keating out there ?

 

[moXJO]

A refresher in how much our politics has changed and the level of nothingness we have sunk to

Not a lot to do with politician's changing more to do with media and "gotcha" questions.
Keating would be eaten alive by today's media and 24 hour news cycle if he carried on like that now. And anyone calling in with any hint of racist views would be blasted by the pc crowd.
That and the tard force of social media and their insta-whinges. You can't put a foot wrong without everyone tearing you down.

 

[Tisme]

Not a lot to do with politician's changing more to do with media and "gotcha" questions.
Keating would be eaten alive by today's media and 24 hour news cycle if he carried on like that now. And anyone calling in with any hint of racist views would be blasted by the pc crowd.
That and the tard force of social media and their insta-whinges. You can't put a foot wrong without everyone tearing you down.

Not sure about that. He came out yesterday and eviscerated Turnbull at a book launch. His acid oneliner for the day:

“Malcolm Turnbull… fundamentally he is a cherry on top of a compost heap”

The media were too scared to attempt a carve up I would suspect

 

[SirRumpole]

“Malcolm Turnbull… fundamentally he is a cherry on top of a compost heap”

He's still got his mojo by the sound of it.

 

[moXJO]

Not sure about that. He came out yesterday and eviscerated Turnbull at a book launch. His acid oneliner for the day:

“Malcolm Turnbull… fundamentally he is a cherry on top of a compost heap”

The media were too scared to attempt a carve up I would suspect

Former politician.

 

[Tisme]

Former politician.

Even so. The fifth estate is essentially a Liberal Party hack in this country, so for the voice of the enemy to be attacking one of the chosen ones and getting away with it is quite the achievement IMO.

 

[moXJO]

Even so. The fifth estate is essentially a Liberal Party hack in this country, so for the voice of the enemy to be attacking one of the chosen ones and getting away with it is quite the achievement IMO.

Keating is respected in business circles. Nothing but a lobbyist now.
But they run with any slur against a politician in an attempt to take them down.
Three PMs were given the shove after a media bloodletting frenzy.

They even ran with a crack from keating about tbull.... which you just ran.

 

[dutchie]

Australia since 1996......

From 1996, nearly 12 years of stable and prosperous government.

2007 – someone kills Chinaman in Australia

2007 – Kevin Rudd (dud) becomes PM

2010 - Gillard (dud) stabs Rudd in back to become PM

2013 – Kevin Rudd (still a dud) stabs Gillard in back to become PM

2013 – Tony Abbott (dud) becomes PM

2015 – Malcolm Turnbull (dud) stabs Abbott in back to become PM

2016 – Person who killed Chinaman still at large (has a lot to answer to)

Folks do you see a pattern here?

Future ------> 2017 – Scott Morrison stabs Turnbull in back to become PM

 

[Logique]

Senators Lleyonhelm, Lazarus and Xylophone at the Press Club today. Not a bad group.

Lazarus in particular impresses me. He's a straight shooter, and he sure has Malcolm Turnbull's number.

You don't play years of top level professional sport without learning a thing or two about discipline and leadership.

I'll be looking for the Lazarus Team on the Senate ballot paper, for sure.

 

[wayneL]

Senators Lleyonhelm, Lazarus and Xylophone at the Press Club today. Not a bad group.

Lazarus in particular impresses me. He's a straight shooter, and he sure has Malcolm Turnbull's number.

You don't play years of top level professional sport without learning a thing or two about discipline and leadership.

I'll be looking for the Lazarus Team on the Senate ballot paper, for sure.

He's gained lots of confidence too, his speaking flows better these days

 

[Tisme]

Senators Lleyonhelm, Lazarus and Xylophone at the Press Club today. Not a bad group.

Lazarus in particular impresses me. He's a straight shooter, and he sure has Malcolm Turnbull's number.

You don't play years of top level professional sport without learning a thing or two about discipline and leadership.

I'll be looking for the Lazarus Team on the Senate ballot paper, for sure.

What the hell is going on here! I'm finding myself agreeing various members here. It's not good enough...stop it now and behave.

 

[SirRumpole]

Glen Lazarus is getting to me.

When he became a Senator under Palmer I thought he was a bozo working for a bozo, but having seen a bit of him I realise that there is a heart in there, despite some un-sophistication and rough edges. Some guts too, after walking out on Clive.

I can't vote for him as I'm not in Qld, but I wish him luck and hope he returns after the election.

Nick Xenophon is a slick lawyer, but with some commonsense and good intentions. I'm sure he will get back, with one or two colleagues.

As for Lleyonhelm I think he was lucky to get in and doesn't have a lot to add to the government process, but at least we know where he stands and why he is there.

 

[SirRumpole]

I hope some heads roll over this if they haven't already


IBM's legal stoush with Queensland Health over payroll debacle ends

By Lexy Hamilton-Smith

"Technology giant IBM has passed the final hurdle to win its protracted legal battle against Queensland Health over the failed payroll system that will ultimately cost taxpayers $1.2 billion.

Thousands of staff were unpaid or paid incorrectly under the scheme, ordered by the previous Labor government."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-...ed-queensland-health-payroll-disaster/7306528