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[sptrawler]

I would put money she was given a date rape drug but we will never know. It destroyed her career.
Stuff keeps coming out about Leahmann (something in the paper today) but everyone tends to just edge on it and not say too much, scared he will sue them.

You can only be sued for saying something you can't prove, or that the person can show was false or unfounded.

If someone where you work goes around saying something about you, or posts up something about you that is detrimental and untrue, that costs you your job you have to be able to contest that.

If not someone could say anything they liked and put your career and reputation in tatters, it is only the threat of being sued that stops nasty sods making peoples life a misery, just because they can.

I think these days, not only can the poster on a forum be sued for defamation, the forum owner can be also.

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[Knobby22]

Police told Higgins ‘may have been drugged’

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Karaoke kid kicked out: Bruce Lehrmann ‘evicted’ from Sydney house

The avowed party animal has been given his marching orders from the $4.1 million North Sydney home where he had been staying before complaints from neighbours.

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[Knobby22]

Quite possibly, it would have been so much better if she had said something to the female security guard that woke her up on the couch, the night of the incident.
If she had done that I'm sure he would be in jail as we speak, even if she had just reported to a doctor for a swab, or even just to reported it to the doctor.

We don't always think clearly following an incident. I know from something that happened to me that I should have handled differently but you are in shock.

 

[sptrawler]

We don't always think clearly following an incident. I know from something that happened to me that I should have handled differently but you are in shock.

That's very true.

 

[SirRumpole]

"Mr Lehrmann raped Ms Higgins".

Justice Micael Lee.

 

[Knobby22]

"Mr Lehrmann raped Ms Higgins".

Justice Micael Lee.

Judge rules that Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins 'without caring whether she consented'

Justice Michael Lee has delivered his judgment in the defamation case brought by Bruce Lehrmann against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson, ruling that the evidence had proven Network Ten's substantial truth defence.

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

I would put money she was given a date rape drug but we will never know. It destroyed her career.
Stuff keeps coming out about Leahmann (something in the paper today) but everyone tends to just edge on it and not say too much, scared he will sue them.

Now you,me and everyone else can say he probably did it, because the judgement has been given, that it is more likely than not.
Which is exactly the way it should be, trail by media and public forum forums, really just denegrate's our legal system, either we have one or we don't.
Apologies @Knobby22 I'm on a phone on a cruise ship so didn't see your post, just read the judgement then posted, but it is still relevant IMO.

Lehrmann defamation case against Network Ten fails after judge finds 'substantial truth' to story — as it happened

The Federal Court finds, on the balance of probabilities, that Bruce Lehrmann did rape Brittany Higgins at Parliament House in 2019. Look back on what happened.

www.abc.net.au

 

[sptrawler]

"Mr Lehrmann raped Ms Higgins".

Justice Micael Lee.

Now the question needs to be asked, how could the Parliament house security have let someone so inebriated, go into Parliament house IMO.

 

[wayneL]

Now the question needs to be asked, how could the Parliament house security have let someone so inebriated, go into Parliament house IMO.

Jeez, there would be no parliamentarians (extreme inebriation, nay, being totally paralytic, is the only explanation for the parliamentary agenda of late.)

(Personal opinion )

 

[SirRumpole]

Now the question needs to be asked, how could the Parliament house security have let someone so inebriated, go into Parliament house IMO.

Maybe it's not their job to decide.

If they have a pass they get in.

But definitely rules need to be changed.

 

[wayneL]

Maybe it's not their job to decide.

If they have a pass they get in.

But definitely rules need to be changed.

It's certainly seems to true that behaviour inside parliament house, in general, is somewhat indecorous.

Everyone is entitled to get (responsibly) rat-@rsed at times. Dammit, get 5h1tfaced, stoned out of your feckin mind, swap wives etc... who cares?

But parliament house is not the venue for it FFS.

 

[sptrawler]

Maybe it's not their job to decide.

If they have a pass they get in.

But definitely rules need to be changed.

What would happen if someone goes head first down a flight of stairs and breaks their necks while let in after a night on the pizz?
Seriously, it's a work place, not a fckn amusement park.

 

[SirRumpole]

Quote of the week

"Having escaped the lion's den, Mr Lerhmann made the mistake of coming back for his hat."

Justice Lee

 

[basilio]

Quote of the week

"Having escaped the lion's den, Mr Lerhmann made the mistake of coming back for his hat."

Huge judgement. Judge Lee went to great pains to explain the reasoning behind his decision.

I think Lerhmann is in a world of trouble after this decision. There is still an upcoming rape case in Queensland and his history of getting women drunk and taking advantage of them is not going to go away. On top of that the other stories that came out in the trial about his behaviour when looking for money from Channel 7 won't be forgotten in a hurry.

The question of people having their drinks spiked is also on the table. I remembered a friend of mine who I had to take home from a pub after she suddenly went very wobbly. Almost certainly happened after a spiked drink. Very hard to prove however because it goes through the system quite quickly. It is quite scary to see the behavioural change in a person who has been spiked.

Did Bruce Lehrmann use a date rape drug like GHB to assault Brittany Higgins as suspected by the AFP as a possibility? - Kangaroo Court of Australia

Former Assistant AFP Commissioner Leanne Close wrote in her notes, in relation to a meeting with Senator Linda Reynolds, about information that Brittany

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Bruce Lehrmann named as man accused of rape in Toowoomba

The former Liberal staffer has lost a bid to keep his identity suppressed after being charged with two counts of rape in Toowoomba late last year.

www.abc.net.au

 

[basilio]

Summary of Judge Michael Lees findings

Judge rules that Bruce Lehrmann raped Brittany Higgins 'without caring whether she consented'

Justice Michael Lee has delivered his judgment in the defamation case brought by Bruce Lehrmann against Network Ten and Lisa Wilkinson, ruling that the evidence had proven Network Ten's substantial truth defence.

www.abc.net.au

 

[IFocus]

Now the question needs to be asked, how could the Parliament house security have let someone so inebriated, go into Parliament house IMO.

The AFP thought date rape drug had been used which would explain a lot.

 

[basilio]

Documents show other Bruce Lehrmann sexual assault allegations | Canberra Daily

Other women reported sexual assault and harassment allegations against a man accused of raping Brittany Higgins in 2019, court documents show.

canberradaily.com.au

 

[IFocus]

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This included media reports about other women coming forward with similar allegations against Mr Lehrmann published after hearing Ms Higgins’ complaints in 2021."

 

[IFocus]

 

[basilio]

Nice little write up the choicest parts of Judge Lees analysis of the Lehrmann defamation case. He haws ageat turn of phrase.

A ‘hapless’ Bumble date, Qing dynasty ceramics and the Algonquin round table: the best lines from the Bruce Lehrmann verdict​

Kate Lyons
The federal court justice Michael Lee gave a two-and-a-half hour oral summary of his judgment that at times strayed into unexpectedly colourful references

Mon 15 Apr 2024 17.23 AESTLast modified on Mon 15 Apr 2024 17.49 AEST

Justice Michael Lee spent two-and-a-half hours delivering an oral summary of his 324-page judgment in the defamation case brought by Bruce Lehrmann against Channel Ten and Lisa Wilkinson.
The judgment was incredibly nuanced, with Lee seeking to draw “fine distinctions based upon the subtleties of the evidence”. But it was also characterised by Lee’s penchant for a creatively turned phrase, drawing laughter from the gallery at a number of points.

The full judgment is online here – or read some of the judge’s finest rhetorical flourishes below.

... Some fatherly advice​

At one point Lee cited the wisdom that “‘nothing good happens after two o’clock in the morning’ … Here too there was a combination of drink and the wee hours, and it led, on any view of it, to trouble.”

A ‘hapless’ Bumble date, Qing dynasty ceramics and the Algonquin round table: the best lines from the Bruce Lehrmann verdict

The federal court justice Michael Lee gave a two-and-a-half hour oral summary of his judgment that at times strayed into unexpectedly colourful references

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