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IME, there is Buckley's chance of that.
I think generally in high profile cases, they do a reasonable job in Australia.
The results might not be what some people like, but generally I think they do well.
The Porter/ Higgins cases come to mind in a lot of ways, IMO conflicting outcomes and not what many wanted, or expected.
 
I think generally at federal level, they do a reasonable job in Australia.
The problem I see is that many things in law are absolutely subjective. Activist judges are a real thing and although we probably don't have as much of a problem of this in Australia as the Americans or the British do, it's a feckin problem.

Surely events of over the last few years are ample evidence of that?
 
I think generally in high profile cases, they do a reasonable job in Australia.
The results might not be what some people like, but generally I think they do well.
The Porter/ Higgins cases come to mind in a lot of ways, IMO conflicting outcomes and not what many wanted, or expected.
I do not have a psychology degree but I do take an interest in psychology. What I do know is that although we imagine ourselves as logical, especially those of us who delude ourselves as intellectuals, this is not the case.

All humans make emotional decisions and try to justify that with any sort of BS logic they can dredge up.

I exclude myself of course, as being completely logical and objective ;)
 
The problem I see is that many things in law are absolutely subjective. Activist judges are a real thing and although we probably don't have as much of a problem of this in Australia as the Americans or the British do, it's a feckin problem.

Surely events of over the last few years are ample evidence of that?
If subjectivity can be shown, there is always the appeal system.
Also IMO we haven't gone as barmy as the U.S, but we are fast heading that way, which to me is the scary part.
I'm sure the day will come where the Australian politicians aren't hamstrung by a fairly rigid political system, when that happens and our politicians are given free reign similar to the U.S system, I think Australia will become extremely different.
Time will tell, but as usual follow the elite money, it usually knows where to park and whose palms to grease. ;)
 
If subjectivity can be shown, there is always the appeal system.

Yes, the pity is the time it takes and the cost, so much so that maybe innocent people have to spend years in jail before they are finally exonerated or at least given the benefit of the doubt over dodgy evidence..

George Pell, David Eastman, Lindy Chamberlain and Kathleen Folbigg can attest to the ponderousness of the judicial system.

Should people stay out of jail until all appeals are held ?
 
Yes, the pity is the time it takes and the cost, so much so that maybe innocent people have to spend years in jail before they are finally exonerated or at least given the benefit of the doubt over dodgy evidence..

George Pell, David Eastman, Lindy Chamberlain and Kathleen Folbigg can attest to the ponderousness of the judicial system.

Should people stay out of jail until all appeals are held ?
As with everything there are always grey areas and some situations where the guilty verdict was flawed, which was one of the major reasons for abolishing capital punishment.
I suppose the balance of the right or wrong convictions, decides which is the safest way to proceed, taking into consideration the evidence and the risk to the public.
Probably a similar situation to bail, should someone be held in confinement until the court case, I guess they get that right and wrong sometimes also, as the statistics show.
As with most things there, is never a definitive right and wrong.


 
Winston, we have a problem...

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The Defo awards are very special. Only the most adept people make the cut. Well worth recognizing the citizens who make the absolute best effort at destroying themselves through defamation actions.

Introducing ‘The Defo Awards’ for Services to Defamation Stuff -ups

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We’re excited to announce a special award ceremony that recognises the very best xuck ups in defamation litigation. Your winners are …

The Hague Award for Services to Future War Crimes Hearings
Winner:
Ben Roberts-Smith
Comment: Over the past two years Ben has worked tirelessly and selflessly to provide evidence, facilitate witness statements, and bring new material to light, which can now be used in support of a War Crimes trial against him. What a stunning performance!

 
It's good to see it's business as usual.
Not a bad gig, if you can get it.


Federal politicians will receive a 4 per cent pay rise from Thursday, the largest single increase in nearly a decade, taking the base salary of a backbencher from $217,000 to $225,680.
The Remuneration Tribunal, the body that determines the pay and entitlements of public office holders, said the decision was made after a number of “conservative” pay reviews.
 
It's good to see it's business as usual.
Not a bad gig, if you can get it.


Federal politicians will receive a 4 per cent pay rise from Thursday, the largest single increase in nearly a decade, taking the base salary of a backbencher from $217,000 to $225,680.
The Remuneration Tribunal, the body that determines the pay and entitlements of public office holders, said the decision was made after a number of “conservative” pay reviews.
Wait till Waleed Aly finds out.
Mick
 
Interesting that two competition gurus think that Albo is in bed with Qantas, everyone thought that was only a coalition stunt, just shows there really isn't much difference.
Only in people's minds.

 
Interesting that two competition gurus think that Albo is in bed with Qantas, everyone thought that was only a coalition stunt, just shows there really isn't much difference.
Only in people's minds.

Perhaps look further, into the ESG economic fascism >> BlackRock and suchlike>> WEF

AUS PM is just a puppet
 
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