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sptrawler said:
Was the Pakistani guy the security bloke? If so he went above and beyond.
At the forum I see the security guys and think " mate if I was you, I would have a 6 D cell mag light hanging off the belt".
I really think a lot of these shop security guys haven't come up against some serious muppets, it really needs addressing IMO.
But these days the amount of meths around, it is only a matter of time before most people will meet someone having a psychotic episode.
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Yes. He probably thought, need to do something. Poor bastard.
 
Knobby22 said:
Yes. He probably thought, need to do something. Poor bastard.
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Yes I see these young guys, obviously of Indian, Pakistani, Indonesean, Phillipino etc decent, hard working, doing crap jobs and are usually pretty small physically.
As mental health issues increase with our society, the number of these occurrences will increase, the security personnel will have to be better trained and armed.
There is no chance we are ever going to deal with the root cause.
PS how much domestic violence would be going on, with the financial stress ATM, I'll give a tip, heaps.
 

Background on Joel Cauchi.​


Joel Cauchi: who was the Queensland man who carried out the Bondi Junction mass stabbing?​

Police say 40-year-old was an itinerant who moved to NSW last month and had a history of mental illness

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Queensland man Joel Cauchi has been named as the man who killed five women and one man at the Bondi Junction shopping centre during a horrific mass stabbing on Saturday.
The 40-year-old was shot dead by a police officer, Amy Scott, who responded to the attack at the busy shopping centre while on duty for an unrelated matter.

Cauchi was known to police in New South Wales and Queensland for mental health-related matters. Police do not believe the attack on Saturday was terrorism-related or linked to any ideology.
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According to his social media activity, Cauchi had been interested in surfing at Bondi beach as well as a range of social activities across Sydney, leaving frequent Google reviews for businesses he attended.

He was diagnosed with a mental illness as a teenager and had received treatment but his mental health had declined in recent years, police have said.

Here is what we know so far.

www.theguardian.com

Joel Cauchi: who was the Queensland man who carried out the Bondi Junction mass stabbing?

Police say 40-year-old was an itinerant who moved to NSW last month and had a history of mental illness
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Joel Cauchi was a 'tormented soul' says his tearful father Andrew after Bondi Junction stabbing​

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Andrew Cauchi says his son Joel was a "tormented soul".(ABC News: Tobi Loftus)

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  • In short: The father of Joel Cauchi says he harbours no ill will towards the police officer who shot his son dead at Bondi Junction
  • Joel Cauchi killed six people and injured many others in a knife attack at the Westfield shopping centre on Saturday.
  • What's next? Police continue to investigate the incident.
The father of Bondi Junction killer Joel Cauchi has tearfully apologised for the actions of his "tormented" son, saying he too would have shot him dead if he was the police officer responding to the tragedy.

Speaking outside his home in Toowoomba, Queensland, Andrew Cauchi said he was "not really" coping with the aftermath of his 40-year-old son's actions.


.... Mr Cauchi said he held no ill feelings to Inspector Amy Scott, who killed Cauchi at the scene, because she was "doing her job".

"If I was in her uniform, and this wasn't my son … and he runs at me with a knife, I'd have to do the same thing she did," he said. "We have no ill feelings towards her because she was doing her job and she did a wonderful job, even though it was my son.

"I mean, how I can stand here and say that she did a wonderful job killing my son, I don't know, but she did her job and she did it well."
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'I'm sorry he's done this to the nation': Andrew Cauchi breaks down speaking about killer son

The parents of Joel Cauchi describe their son as tormented after he killed six people and wounded several others at Bondi Junction on the weekend.
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Australia's mental health system is a bit of a joke. There's a big crisis with men's mental health services. I've known a few schizophrenics that had really bad episodes.

One tried to kill his neighbour because he thought he was whispering through his window at night. He also tried to strangle a cop to death and almost succeeded. God knows what else he did as he was just left in the community unsupervised majority of the time.
The stories they believed were happening to them was just living in a complete fantasy.

I'm seeing a lot of "another man kills women" as feminism tries to score points.
Ok address the actual problem then.

Social media is toxic for left or right comments at the moment. That's what happens when you monetise sht opinions from idiots.
 
SirRumpole said:
And little anyone can do to stop similar things happening again unfortunately.
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Not to inflame the debate, but in Texas, it would have been different😬 , and yes I know...gun death in. The US bla bla but you can choose to be slaughtered as lambs or fight back, and you do not fight back much against a machete or knife when even pepper spray put you in jail.
Imagine pepper spray allowed in australia most womens would have had one and this would not have happened , and I am not aware of mass pepper spray attack in the US😊
There is a will to disarm honest people, put them in jail if they dare to fight back, as the service has to be provided by the nanny government..
Which usually is absent or too late .
This is a serious issue in the west imho where only loonies and crooks have weapons, and we are left with candles, balloons and teddy bears...
Especially relevant in the EU but will come our way no doubt

I congratulate the cop lady, and the fact she might not be sue or charged..but the crazy dead guy was white male so it is ok.
Anyway a sad story and not an Islamist attack for a change vs french news
 
qldfrog said:
I congratulate the cop lady, and the fact she might not be sue or charged..but the crazy dead guy was white male so it is ok.
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Yep, it does seem a little odd a kill shot was inflicted. At such close range, and him having only a knife, it would seem the threat could have been neutralised with a non-lethal shot. I guess without seeing footage it's hard to judge. If anyone's seen the old Kyle Rittenhouse footage, the lad was being swamped by rabid leftists and had to fatally shoot two to genuinely avoid death or at least or being beaten to a pulp - he was dragged through the courts for actual self-defence (found not guilty in the end).
 
Another stabbing in Sydney

"Bishop Mari Mari Emmanuel of the Assyrian Church in Australia has just been attacked by an armed assailant during a church service in Western Sydney."

Video on X but withheld for here, no details on the perp yet.
 
wayneL said:
Another stabbing in Sydney

"Bishop Mari Mari Emmanuel of the Assyrian Church in Australia has just been attacked by an armed assailant during a church service in Western Sydney."

Video on X but withheld for here, no details on the perp yet.
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People are pretty p155ed.

 
qldfrog said:
Not to inflame the debate, but in Texas, it would have been different😬 , and yes I know...gun death in.
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To stop a bad guy with a knife you need a good guy with a gun...

Knife's are really slow way to kill large numbers firearms are much more efficient.

If the killer had a firearm like what happens in the US it would have resulted in far more deaths until someone shot him which is common in US schools etc.

Port Arthur massacre is a good example.

Australian gun laws introduced by Howard and Anderson against the wishes of their constituents was one of the better acts of an Australian government IMHO.
 
StockyGuy said:
Yep, it does seem a little odd a kill shot was inflicted. At such close range, and him having only a knife, it would seem the threat could have been neutralised with a non-lethal shot. I guess without seeing footage it's hard to judge. If anyone's seen the old Kyle Rittenhouse footage, the lad was being swamped by rabid leftists and had to fatally shoot two to genuinely avoid death or at least or being beaten to a pulp - he was dragged through the courts for actual self-defence (found not guilty in the end).
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Suggesting a "non lethal" shot goes against all police training procedures in such a situation. If an officer is faced with an imminent threat to life (and in this case has already happened) then the shot is taken to the torso to ensure the perp goes down.

The guy was lunging at her with the knife at close quarters. She had only one chance to stop him. She did what had to be done.

www.abc.net.au

When and why Queensland police are allowed to fire a gun

Police officers turn up to work every day to protect and serve society. But, how do they balance that goal with protecting their own lives?
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Here's why police don't shoot to wound in the case of deadly force

Here's why police don't shoot to wound in the case of deadly force
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basilio said:
Suggesting a "non lethal" shot goes against all police training procedures in such a situation. If an officer is faced with an imminent threat to life (and in this case has already happened) then the shot is taken to the torso to ensure the perp goes down.

The guy was lunging at her with the knife at close quarters. She had only one chance to stop him. She did what had to be done.

www.abc.net.au

When and why Queensland police are allowed to fire a gun

Police officers turn up to work every day to protect and serve society. But, how do they balance that goal with protecting their own lives?
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
www.ajc.com

Here's why police don't shoot to wound in the case of deadly force

Here's why police don't shoot to wound in the case of deadly force
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No interest in getting into any lengthy debate, but let's say the Kumanjayi Walker case and the Clare Nowland tasering show there's not a universal acceptance of lethal police force when someone points a blade in your direction.
 
I've seen guys shot with a full clip and they still run at you. A knife within 5m of you is a high % chance you will get stabbed even if you do have a gun.

Put them down and worry about clean up duty after the fact. Better them than you.
 
moXJO said:
I've seen guys shot with a full clip and they still run at you. A knife within 5m of you is a high % chance you will get stabbed even if you do have a gun.

Put them down and worry about clean up duty after the fact. Better them than you.
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I assume the kill shot was unintentional based on her attempt to CPR him back to the living. She did well - much respect to her. Maybe a more crack marksperson could have done a little better though in not killing him. I get everyone, including me, is just glad the bad guy's dead; but police are not there to kill bad guys, even if it's a happy accident at times.
 
StockyGuy said:
Yep, it does seem a little odd a kill shot was inflicted. At such close range, and him having only a knife, it would seem the threat could have been neutralised with a non-lethal shot.
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It comes down to only having one chance to get it right without putting others in further danger.

Bearing in mind that if the attacker takes out the cop and now has the gun, well that's the worst possible outcome. Combine that with a "window of opportunity" situation of unknown but likely short duration and very little time to think about it, and shoot to kill becomes a reasonable response.

It's like cancer. If there's any chance to whack it completely then it's crazy to not do so without hesitation. Because once that opportunity's lost, and it could be at any moment, the odds are then heavily stacked against you.

As a general principle I don't agree with intentionally killing but as with anything there are exceptions and this was one such occasion. A choice of bad or far worse and that being so, bad is the best option. :2twocents
 
Knobby22 said:
Maybe it was Ben Cohan again.
Better check with 7 news and the pro Kremlin X accounts.
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The local Iman was sorry and supportive of the injured Christian priest.
Says it all. Green plague spreading most probably: same tactics, same excuses , same results now and in coming years
 

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