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Another Dog Attack - Sad Story All Round

do people actually research their breeds before adding them to a family home ?

temperament was the first on our list ....

Many breeds would dominate the occupants in a SOFT household, given half a chance.

No means No, doesn't it...???? :

SevenFX
 
Many breeds would dominate the occupants in a SOFT household, given half a chance.

No means No, doesn't it...???? :

SevenFX

Dominate.... YES ... if you let them , it also depends on how they are trained and treated .. But some breeds are bred to have an aggressive nature - your fighting dogs, such as Pit Bulls - and others are toy, lap dogs or working dogs . Wouldn't you say that if it is their nature/breed to be agreesive you would avoid them altogether ?
 
Rapture's question prompts me to tell my story from walk last night.

I had my obedienced trained, balanced, friendly & yes playful (seriously) rotty (yes big teeth, but big hearted 2) on walk last night when we came across this couple, with a medium sized bitzer intensily lunging & barking on the end of the lead.

Because I'm (& my rotty) is so used to "Little dog Syndrome" I didn't say anything, but as she (handler) and partner got bit to close with their dog, not seeming to care what their dog was doing...??? I said to her "It may be a good idea if you discourage your dog from being aggressive towards other dogs" hoping to avoid a incident....

Hmmmm though that would/may do the trick...? NOT

She replies, as the dog continues at the end of the lead, I can't do anything, he's been like that for 11 years, and he wont change...????

However I'm not sure if she was hoping to wake one morning, to find the dog a new dog... and observing their behaviour moreso than the dogs, and think they were happy with their dog showing what she may have thought as being a domiment top dog..

It wqas like watchin someone fly a kite.... and couldn't see the partner do anything other than smile through it all...????

p.s Mine didn't even bark once, and his tail was wagging though it all...
SevenFX
 

Seems like the dogs above are a reflection of their owners . . I agree with your comment to the owners .. Dogs, like children, need to know what is and what isn't acceptable behaviour..

I'm not a fan of yappy little dogs either ( I do love dogs .. honestly ) .. Alot of them are over pampered, and due to their "cuteness" are at times oevr looked when it comes to training and obedience .. IMO

Now in case anyone gets upset or defensive .. I did say most not all ...
 
Dogs, like children, need to know what is and what isn't acceptable behaviour..

I used to describe teaching (not training) children as being very similar to teaching dogs, esp puppies, but not anymore as parents never seem to assimulate the two together...????

But Yes have to agree with both you and dog understanding what acceptable behaviour means.

Dogs understand through repetitive patterns, and thats the one thing some people aren't good at.

SevenFX
 
Tek - howdy
I think you said you have a rotty.?
My dog is part rotty at least (her mum got around a bit though). - actually she was part of an abandoned litter, and I picked her up at the RSPCA.

I've always thought that the use of rotties in the movie "the omen" - where they take the devil's side (forget the details) - just before the lightning bolt brings down the metal spike that skewers the bloke diagonally at the end - was unfair on rotties' reputation.

Rottie owners should file a class action for "defamation of character" (IMO)
 

I recall the dog trainer telling me "you keep trying, and finally, eventually, if you're patient, perhaps, after a while, .. the dog will do something right !! ...

and the praise em to the sky !!!

And I thought - "WOW! - just like teaching kids baseball!! "
 
Isn't it doberman that is used that way in the movies and not a rottie. We have a rottie staffie cross at the moment. She has a fearsome bark and is aloof but is more likely to lick someone to death than attack. Her predecessor was a pure rottie with the same temperament. They really are gentle giants. However it would be easy to make that type of dog dangerous if they were treated or trained that way, simply because of their size and strong jaws.
 
nioka
i have friends with 2 staffies - So weird - they love people but hate other dogs.
I mean they have already killed a visitor's dog!

I know someone who owns a farm who had the same problem - visitors arrived with some fancy poodle or labradoodle or something , and the pack of cattle dogs on the farm killed it

not a good look if you want visitors to come back for a return visit , lol

PSA speaking of doberman's - how's this story .....
https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=218228&highlight=doberman#post218228
 

Law means less and less, scary stuff.
 


Laws, rules, regulations, they are all only as good as paper on which they are written.

Until next attack, laws, rules and regulations will give us false sense of security.
 
Happy, your second to last post: I'm a bit surprised at the combination of a Great Dane/St Bernard being aggressive. Both these breeds are usually very peaceful and gentle. Sometimes I wonder about the breeding classifications given to dogs, e.g. over the years I've come across hundreds of people who say "I love German Shepherds", and indicate their dog. The creature they are referring to might have a bit of G. Shepherd somewhere but it is by no means a purebred dog.

So when media reports appear naming a breed of dog involved in an attack I always take it with a grain of salt.

Also,I just don't think it's possible to classify a breed as entirely one type of personality. I've had a number of Shepherds over the years and they have ranged from complete wusses who never even barked when someone approached our property, to the very territorial, protective one at present who won't let anyone near without my OK.

Just one other thing as a note to owners of little dogs. Please train your small dogs to be sensible around bigger breeds. So many owners of little dogs think it's oh so cute when their little yapper rushes up aggressively to a large dog. They stand there and say stuff like "Oh look at Bozo: he thinks he's a Rottweiler, he's got such a strong personality". Most large dogs if properly trained will ignore this provocative behaviour but if it persists and the big dog continues to have his heels snapped at, then some sort of retaliation is going to occur.
 
Julia,
I am not expert on breeds and dogs behaviour, but I know that dogs can behave quite differently with or without their owners presence and with or without presence of other dogs.

All I would like to be able to do, is go for a walk and not wander if dog is going just to walk past me or only jump on me or attack me, when law of the land says that dog should be on a leash in full control of the owner.
 
I completely agree, Happy.
I'd suggest that, if you have any problems with dogs, you make a complaint to your local council. I guess they vary in their diligence about following up complaints, but where I live they take any complaint very seriously.

Beaches can be an area of difficulty in that there are several which are designated off leash areas for dogs within certain hours. Probably best for non dog owners to avoid these areas at those times.
 

I only hope that one day it is not me!
 
These dogs should all have been given a Schmako for their efforts toward reducing our numbers.
 
I agree dutchie.

There is a famous experiment where the Russians tamed foxes.
They chose for temeprament and juvenile traits and sure enough they got tamed foxes.
They also took a seperate batch and picked the most viscious animals to breed, they got foxew that will attack hmans with no fear.

It is obvious to me that these pitbulls are being chosen for bad traits of visciousness at birth and are really being "untamed". The people breeding these creatures should not be allowed to continue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domesticated_silver_fox
 
It is obvious to me that these pitbulls are being chosen for bad traits of visciousness at birth and are really being "untamed". The people breeding these creatures should not be allowed to continue.
The people that hold these creatures should be institutionalised or at least referred to a shrink.
Seems their self esteem is so puny that they can only put on a macho facade by being seen to "control" a pitbull - or similar dangerous beast. I have no sympathy for them, but every sympathy for the innocent victims and their bereft families.
 
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