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I'd agree with Fraser... Former prime minister Malcolm Fraser said an apology needed to recognise that the policy of child removal based on race was "disastrously wrong and terrible".
He said compensation needed to be discussed, but thought the priority should be in redressing the "gross and irresponsible massive underspending on health, housing and education".
Mr Fraser also took aim at dissident historian Keith Windschuttle, who maintains the Stolen Generations are a "fiction".
The former Liberal leader said that Territory ordinances and documents dating back to 1911 gave "total confirmation that it was a designed and deliberate act of policy".
'Sorry' more important than compo to Stolen Generations:elder Posted Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:00pm AEDT
NAIDOC's joint Male Elder of the Year says an acknowledgment of injustice committed by the Federal Government is far more important than a compensation package for the Stolen Generations.
Federal Indigenous Affairs Minister Jenny Macklin has begun the formal process with Aboriginal groups about the form and timing of an apology from the Federal Government, but has ruled out including a compensation scheme.
The elder from Toowoomba in south-east Queensland, Jim Hagan, says some members of the Stolen Generations may seek compensation.
"The matter of compensation I think is a white man's worry - they're thinking of millions of dollars. I may be wrong, but I think that's not what the Aboriginal people are asking for," he said.
"They're asking for an apology, not just an apology as Howard was going to give them, but the word 'sorry'."
NAIDOC stands for National Aborigines and Islanders Day Observance Committee.
Compensation not part of saying sorry: Macklin Posted Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:33am AEDT
Updated Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:32am AEDT
Federal Indigenous Affairs Minister Jenny Macklin says a compensation scheme for the Stolen Generations is not currently being considered as part of an official apology.
Ms Macklin yesterday began the formal process of consulting with Aboriginal groups about the form and timing of an apology from the Federal Government.
Ms Macklin says the Government believes practical steps to improve the health and education of Indigenous children would give more force to the apology than compensation.
"I don't think that's where people want to start this conversation, that's the message that I got yesterday," she said.
"People understand that in making the apology they want a recognition of what happened in the past.
"What we've seen from the states is different approaches on that issue, we haven't seen a rush of legal claims."
I'd agree with Fraser.
PS this article on ABC is a few days old ...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/13/2118056.htm
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/12/12/2116257.htm
The english came, saw and conquered. They are a conquered race and lets not forget this. Furthermore, many of the "stolen generation" were handed over to the authorities because the new born's were halfcast, which is not acceptable, and would been murdered more than likely.
I spent 6 yrs in the territory, and saw alot of **** that you would not believe. They still behave like the rock apes that the english discovered here over 200 yrs ago, seriously, they have no idea on how too integtrate into a modern society, in fact, I'm pretty sure they don't want to. Just give them cash, and they're happy as pigs in ****, although the pigs are easier on the nose : )) They will only blow it anyway, buying cruiser's and pallet loads of VB. Give it 6 months, maybe a yr, and what they would have bought would be a total wreck. They don't give a **** about anything, let alone bettering themselves.
I'm not racist, I just don't like handouts going to those who aren't prepared to help themselves.
We are talking about children torn from the arms of their parents , do gooders did this .
So did the Nazis !
You do realise that Australia is one of the only places where genocide has been successfully completed on a large scale don't you? Comparison indeed...
Boredom, drugs blamed for sexual assault
Boredom, overcrowded houses, drug use and pornography created the circumstances in which an 11-year-old boy was sexually assaulted by two adults and three juveniles at a remote Aboriginal community, a court heard.
Ha Haa
Torn from the arms of the 'kiddie fiddler' communities you mean.. Maybe you're not aware of what has been revealed recently in NT.. Perhaps the 10 year old raped by 9 in Qld might be closer to home? Do you really think that this hasn't been happening for many many years.. The Govt stepped in years ago and did what it thought (and what I still think) was the right thing and removed these kids for thier own protection.. and now we are supposed to apologise?? Get Real.
Unfortunately the Authorities of our time (now) are paralysed by the kerfuffle caused by the actions years ago (the so called 'stolen generation'), and are not removing the kids from the abusive environments that exist today. I certainly expect them to.. but they wont for fear of further 'stolen generations'..
I'll tip in 20 - 30 years we'll be asked for another apology, this time for not taking action, and leaving them in abusive situations (like the bullying compensation recently of 1 Mil).. of course you can't really mean it if you say sorry, you have to REALLY mean it and pay up..
Retch..
Buster
Choppa,
Do a quick 'Google' of the word 'Genocide' mate.
I'm tipping you may find that your statement looks a little foolish in 'comparison'.. One of the only places??? Large scale?? Sheesh..
Regards,
Buster
Tasmania.
*snicker*Keith Windschuttle
For what? 10 years as opposed to 210?
you disappoint me hangseng1. And people are surprised by this why? It was a given with Labour getting in, now be prepared to pay. Kennas your posts have it in one.
2. They have pursued this for no other reason than compensation, despite the constant "no we are not".
3. This does the Aboriginal cause no advancement and will cause nothing but a national rift all over again.
4. Healing? Absolute rubbish!
5. And before the bleeding hearts get started one of my best friends (I went to school and played footy with him until our 20's) is a full blood Noongya, he agrees with me.
Damn this makes my blood boil.
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