That is one of the driving factors our current level of immigration.at present, 2024, some 20 thousand folk in Australia are turning 85 years old
in nine years time, 2033, when peak baby boom kicks in, the number turning 85 will be around 60 thousand .
Being in the cohort aged 85+ is described as "frail elderly ". Is the system set up to look after the numbers?
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i will let you know , if i get there ( in 2040 give or take a month )at present, 2024, some 20 thousand folk in Australia are turning 85 years old
in nine years time, 2033, when peak baby boom kicks in, the number turning 85 will be around 60 thousand .
Being in the cohort aged 85+ is described as "frail elderly ". Is the system set up to look after the numbers?
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and that's why you're going back on Ignore, fella.i will let you know , if i get there ( in 2040 give or take a month )
by the way , the cautious members should NOT hold their breath waiting
Easy bring 600,000 new 25y old per year and these elderly frails disappear in the stats.. and you keep kicking the can further till the next election.at present, 2024, some 20 thousand folk in Australia are turning 85 years old
in nine years time, 2033, when peak baby boom kicks in, the number turning 85 will be around 60 thousand .
Being in the cohort aged 85+ is described as "frail elderly ". Is the system set up to look after the numbers?
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We do not need to do it. There are many other better solutions available then the ponzi solution which is merely kicking the can down the road.That is one of the driving factors our current level of immigration.
Not only do we need to bring in enough workers to replace the baby boomers leaving the workforce, but because those baby boomers are living longer, we also need workers to support those aging boomers, so it’s not about just maintaining the number of workers but growing it.
yeah , but , so many dream they are undiscovered soccer starsWe do not need to do it. There are many other better solutions available then the ponzi solution which is merely kicking the can down the road.
Well, to me it seems pretty straightforward that as the boomers retire, and need more and more care, we not only need the same number of workers to do all the jobs the boomers used to do, plus a certain number of carers to care for the aging boomers.We do not need to do it. There are many other better solutions available then the ponzi solution which is merely kicking the can down the road.
that might depend on how many aged migrate .. it was a phenomenon many years back when migrant workers retired back to the homeland ( birthplace ) but i now see hints of Australians ( native-born ) going overseas permanently to retireWell, to me it seems pretty straightforward that as the boomers retire, and need more and more care, we not only need the same number of workers to do all the jobs the boomers used to do, plus a certain number of carers to care for the aging boomers.
I don’t see how the math works with out increasing the workforce through immigration.
What solution do you suggest.
Well that’s one solution I guess, I don’t think enough people are actually doing that to make a dent though.that might depend on how many aged migrate .. it was a phenomenon many years back when migrant workers retired back to the homeland ( birthplace ) but i now see hints of Australians ( native-born ) going overseas permanently to retire
( i considered applying for a UK passport/citizenship 1990 , but probably dodged a bullet , by choosing not to )
now the ones that i know considering migrating , are retired middle class and going for superior health care options ( so obviously financially secure , but some health issues )Well that’s one solution I guess, I don’t think enough people are actually doing that to make a dent though.
Outsource retirement to Asia. Australia is bloody terrible at it.Well that’s one solution I guess, I don’t think enough people are actually doing that to make a dent though.
I agree there's a link between the two, that bringing in more people in response to the aging population is what's occurring, but I'll question what's really going on beneath the surface.That is one of the driving factors our current level of immigration.
Not only do we need to bring in enough workers to replace the baby boomers leaving the workforce, but because those baby boomers are living longer, we also need workers to support those aging boomers, so it’s not about just maintaining the number of workers but growing it.
Yes, but the amount of goods and services people demand has grown exponentially Eg in the 1970’s houses were very basic, and people ate at home more.I agree there's a link between the two, that bringing in more people in response to the aging population is what's occurring, but I'll question what's really going on beneath the surface.
If we turn the clock back a few decades then just about every work task was harder in terms of the human effort and labour hours required. Anything from radio broadcasting to sorting mail to office administration to house framing, it's all become less labour intensive today due to technology, improved work methods and so on. There's probably an exception but I really can't think of one where there hasn't been at least some improvement. Even driving a bus now takes less labour since conductors were done away with many years ago.
At the same time we've abandoned what was a vey substantial chunk of activity, that is manufacturing, and that's now almost all offshore.
Also at the same time pretty much every mechanical and electrical device has seen as huge drop in maintenance requirements. First because it's solid state and simply doesn't require routine maintenance, second because if it breaks then it's replaced rather than repaired.
Add those all up and a huge portion of work that used to be done is either gone completely or is a shadow of what it once was.
Meanwhile there's about 14.5 million people employed and the workforce participation rate has trended up over time, now being about 67% versus 65% a decade ago and about 60% 40 years ago.
So my question is where's all that labour actually going? What work is actually being done?
I don't mean the workers are sitting around playing cards all day but I mean what, exactly, is being done?
Something doesn't seem right there. Either there's a huge output of something that I've failed to notice or a lot of the workers aren't actually producing an end product, whatever, that someone actually wants to buy.
Could i then claim that women are a burden on society and quality in the "is ASF racist" competition ?
How dare you?
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