Ageing population

Craton · 18 January 2023

@Garpal Gumnut geez, what a tough question to ask.
I think the one big factor is in our "genes" but even then, it just down to the luck of the draw.

I've known health nuts that have died way too early from, apparently, avoidable diseases. Their cigarette smoking, drunkard, non-health nut mates, never leaving the pub until after last drinks have out lived them.

@Gringotts Bank
Too right. AI will see leaps and bounds in the next five years let alone the next ten and, watch for Biotronics...

divs4ever · 18 January 2023

Gringotts Bank said:
Robotics and AI. There will be a lot of old people and a much smaller working age demographic to look after them. Picture a C3PO type of character who cleans up, serves meals and prepares medications. He works 24/7 without complaint, doesn't abuse the oldies when no one's looking, and all he wants in return is a recharge every so often. He costs a couple of mill, but with all things considered, he's a much better option than a human.

yeah !but who is going to pay for it , hardly anyone is generating income to be taxed

imagine Amazon with almost no consumers ( the same with Fed-EX , the airlines , etc etc )

you don't have much of an economy without humans

Belli · 18 January 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
Just while we are on the subject of an ageing population has anyone looked at the best way to live one's life so that one does not end up :

Disabled from a stroke in a Nursing Home being called "dear" or it's linguistic equivalent by one's carers.

End up in a Nursing Home anyways being called ...

Having to go in to one of those awful retirement villages full of mens shedders and busybodies.

Developing some other godawful disease that makes one's life a misery before dying in pain or distress.

My preference would be to die from a massive unannounced heart attack or stroke, a bullet from an attacker coming from behind or some other painless untoward event.

It appears that the doctors spend much time keeping mens shedders and busybodies alive but don't cater much for such as I who very much enjoy life and care not a cent for when I go, but do about how I go.

The Euthanasia Legislation just caters for those with advanced miserable diseases.

The medical and pharmaceutical industry should take much of the blame for the ageing unhappy population, keeping people alive beyond when they would wish to, and are in many ways to blame for all these retirement complexes, nursing homes and the skewed demographic graphs.

gg

You can chose to exit this world anytime you want to. And no, the medical profession and others, don't like that method either.

eskys · 18 January 2023

Gringotts Bank said:
Robotics and AI. There will be a lot of old people and a much smaller working age demographic to look after them. Picture a C3PO type of character who cleans up, serves meals and prepares medications. He works 24/7 without complaint, doesn't abuse the oldies when no one's looking, and all he wants in return is a recharge every so often. He costs a couple of mill, but with all things considered, he's a much better option than a human.

Never you believe that. My robot cleaner has gone gaga. Forgets it's running low on batteries, gets stuck all over the place and then yells out for help with docking............now banished to the store room

Garpal Gumnut · 18 January 2023

Belli said:
You can chose to exit this world anytime you want to. And no, the medical profession and others, don't like that method either.

On top of that @Belli , it is not a surprise if one does it oneself to oneself and seems a bit unatural in peacetime.

Also there are a whole team of paramedics (ambos), police, emergency doctors, nurses, psychiatric people and social workers waiting to claim you and prevent it from happening.

A joker I know decided to go out in style on Hamilton Is. complete with pharaonic accompaniments, a lady from an establishment in Mackay, best bubbly, other stuff etc. and ended up on a helicopter being evacuated when he mentioned it to her.

I am only interested in going suddenly without warning.

gg

Dona Ferentes · 18 January 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
I am only interested in going suddenly without warning.
gg

My preference too. Being of a certain age (and not yet uncertain), I can't understand when a mate, as recently happened, was on the bike, had the cardiac episode and was dead before he hit the ground. ...all the platitudes of "Too early" and such like. Way to go, I say.

But stroke isn't nice, in my experience. Messy.

Keeping on subject: Now, for baby boomers, the original label was Post-war Baby Boomers . A major demographic shift is underway as we shuffle off. Kind of glad it has been relatively peaceful.

divs4ever · 18 January 2023

eskys said:
Never you believe that. My robot cleaner has gone gaga. Forgets it's running low on batteries, gets stuck all over the place and then yells out for help with docking............now banished to the store room

you should have put a bizarre costume on it , and christen it Lady , and bring it out for entertainment value , when friends turn up ( post a few Tik-Tok videos and see if you get a speedy replacement

divs4ever · 18 January 2023

PS , i hope it says DOCK ME ! in a clear voice .....

Belli · 18 January 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
I am only interested in going suddenly without warning.

That can be arranged.

Gringotts Bank · 18 January 2023

eskys said:
Never you believe that. My robot cleaner has gone gaga. Forgets it's running low on batteries, gets stuck all over the place and then yells out for help with docking............now banished to the store room

lol, Have you got one of those vaccuum ones?

Dona Ferentes · 18 January 2023

Gringotts Bank said:
Have you got one of those vaccuum ones?

Enter the tipping comp, and a feather duster could be yours.

*packing and postage extra

Gringotts Bank · 18 January 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
Just while we are on the subject of an ageing population has anyone looked at the best way to live one's life so that one does not end up :

Disabled from a stroke in a Nursing Home being called "dear" or it's linguistic equivalent by one's carers.

End up in a Nursing Home anyways being called ...

Having to go in to one of those awful retirement villages full of mens shedders and busybodies.

Developing some other godawful disease that makes one's life a misery before dying in pain or distress.

My preference would be to die from a massive unannounced heart attack or stroke, a bullet from an attacker coming from behind or some other painless untoward event.

It appears that the doctors spend much time keeping mens shedders and busybodies alive but don't cater much for such as I who very much enjoy life and care not a cent for when I go, but do about how I go.

The Euthanasia Legislation just caters for those with advanced miserable diseases.

The medical and pharmaceutical industry should take much of the blame for the ageing unhappy population, keeping people alive beyond when they would wish to, and are in many ways to blame for all these retirement complexes, nursing homes and the skewed demographic graphs.

gg

How to stay in optimum health into latter years is a big question. If you're getting on in years and you have the means, I'd say draw up a bucket list and begin. The idea being that body will retain good health if the mind is happy. Norman Cousins style.

StockyGuy · 18 January 2023

Garpal Gumnut said:
I am only interested in going suddenly without warning.

gg

Seems very spooky to go to sleep planning out what you'll do tomorrow (just mundane stuff) like usual then never wake up and never know it etc. (scratch that if you are very confident of some existence after death). But I guess however you slice it, mortality kind of sucks.

frugal.rock · 18 January 2023

Belli said:
That can be arranged.

Make sure you receive payment for services in advance, none of this COD business ?

sptrawler · 18 January 2023

I have found the things that age me the most are:
The body wearing out and money running out.
Fortunately I'm getting to an age, where the former is overtaking the later, which actually is good, because it is reducing my stress levels. Lol
I like the idea of waking up dead, then I dont have to worry about it.

divs4ever · 18 January 2023

sptrawler said:
I have found the things that age me the most are:
The body wearing out and money running out.
Fortunately I'm getting to an age, where the former is overtaking the later, which actually is good, because it is reducing my stress levels. Lol
I like the idea of waking up dead, then I dont have to worry about it.

spread the assets all over the place , so all the hangers-on have to search and fight over 'their share ' ( and be laughing all through the funeral )

eskys · 18 January 2023

divs4ever said:
PS , i hope it says DOCK ME ! in a clear voice .....

It called out "cuddle me' or so the cheeky old accountant said when I asked

Gringotts Bank said:
lol, Have you got one of those vaccuum ones?

Yes, more trouble than its worth. We suspected it triggered the security alarm once after hours when it went about its job. And many a time, I've heard it tangled itself up because someone had left some cords lying around

Belli · 18 January 2023

eskys said:
Yes, more trouble than its worth.

So the vacuum cleaner, whether it works or not, still sucks. Fair enough.

Dona Ferentes · 18 January 2023

sptrawler said:
I like the idea of waking up dead, then I dont have to worry about it.

"Why's it taking me so long to get started today?"

sptrawler · 18 January 2023

divs4ever said:
spread the assets all over the place , so all the hangers-on have to search and fight over 'their share ' ( and be laughing all through the funeral )

Ive already moved the house to a disabled daughter, so she doesnt have to worry.
Whats left when we go, they can fight over.
Actually they are good kids and all have varying levels of wealth, from comfortable, down to on welfare and renting, but Im confident they will work it out.
They always did and still do get on well, despite their various status on the wealth ladder.

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