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ghotib said:
Indeed, or put their fingers to the keyboard, and you are a prime example. Go back and look at that segment again. Neither Bolt nor Markson made the accusation you did and that you now attribute to them. You might argue that they hinted, implied and dog-whistled it, but they didn't say it and their little chat provides no evidence for it.

They said that Jones and other ABC journalists are listed with speakers agencies and that the ABC should require them to disclose their fees for work outside the ABC and the organisations they've done gigs for. You claimed that Jones and Alberici are paid to promote certain views on ABC programmes. That's a very different and very ugly claim. You further claimed that you had quoted information from Bolt and Markson. You didn't. You paraphrased what you thought you heard.

I repeat, you should withdraw your claim and apologise for it.

Ghoti
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Shari Markson is a highly recognized and reliable journalist....You can twist things around as much as you like, but the smell is still there.
 
Indeed, or put their fingers to the keyboard, and you are a prime example. Go back and look at that segment again. Neither Bolt nor Markson made the accusation you did and that you now attribute to them. You might argue that they hinted, implied and dog-whistled it, but they didn't say it and their little chat provides no evidence for it.

They said that Jones and other ABC journalists are listed with speakers agencies and that the ABC should require them to disclose their fees for work outside the ABC and the organisations they've done gigs for. You claimed that Jones and Alberici are paid to promote certain views on ABC programmes. That's a very different and very ugly claim. You further claimed that you had quoted information from Bolt and Markson. You didn't. You paraphrased what you thought you heard.

I repeat, you should withdraw your claim and apologise for it. Ghoti
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Your dead, ugly "off" on this issue Noco. I get tired and completely fed up with the general vacuous poisonous dribble you drip into his forum. On this occasion time you have made a totally unfounded personal attack on ABC presenters with no evidence at all.

Put up proof or apologise
 
I really think todays ABC is being run by the Green view rather than Labor . The advert on the ABC Vote Compass which they run on News 24 says it all really. The last shot shows the " Where do you stand graph". It shows the graph sliding across to the Green vote at around 80% , talk about subliminal advertising. :)
 
Ijustnewit said:
I really think todays ABC is being run by the Green view rather than Labor . The advert on the ABC Vote Compass which they run on News 24 says it all really. The last shot shows the " Where do you stand graph". It shows the graph sliding across to the Green vote at around 80% , talk about subliminal advertising. :)
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Well, the Greens and Labor are in coalition and tarred with the same Fabian brush.

Basilo does not agree of course and he just cannot stand the truth on what the Fabians really stand for...
 
dutchie said:
Or what? You'll tell on him again?

Wish you guys were as critical and demanding of the crap that comes out of the ABC.
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No one has to tell on Noco - he does a great job of sprouting his own BS.

Noco just comes comes out with a lot of stale nonsense confabulating the ALP with the Fabians, the Commos, Land Rights for Gay Whales and any other tosh that passes his in box and can be regurgitated onto this Forum.

The difference in the case of Tony Jones is that he made a specific libelous statement about a public person. As usual there was not a shred of evidence offered.

I am disappointed that he or anyone else its seems can make completely unsubstantiated libelous comments and get away with it. I suppose thats the Andrew Bolt Act in place.:)

Perhaps if I can't beat them I should join them ? Heard about xxxxxxx their daughter and their pet dog ?
 
basilio said:
No one has to tell on Noco - he does a great job of sprouting his own BS.

Noco just comes comes out with a lot of stale nonsense confabulating the ALP with the Fabians, the Commos, Land Rights for Gay Whales and any other tosh that passes his in box and can be regurgitated onto this Forum.

The difference in the case of Tony Jones is that he made a specific libelous statement about a public person. As usual there was not a shred of evidence offered.

I am disappointed that he or anyone else its seems can make completely unsubstantiated libelous comments and get away with it. I suppose thats the Andrew Bolt Act in place.:)

Perhaps if I can't beat them I should join them ? Heard about xxxxxxx their daughter and their pet dog ?
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You seem pretty upset with Noco.

I was just wondering basilio if you were just as upset with Julia Gillard when she claimed that Tony Abbott was a misogynist.

Did you email her and demand that she put up proof or apologise?

(Surely a Prime Minister making unsubstantiated libelous comments is much more serious than some unknown poster in a Stock Forum and she should not get away with it).
 
noco said:
Shari Markson is a highly recognized and reliable journalist....You can twist things around as much as you like, but the smell is still there.
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Many babies find that smearing enhances the smell, but most of them grow out of it by the age of 3.

You have misquoted Sharri (note spelling) Markson and claimed that she made a baseless accusation that she herself carefully avoided.

Time to grow up Noco.
 
dutchie said:
You seem pretty upset with Noco.

I was just wondering basilio if you were just as upset with Julia Gillard when she claimed that Tony Abbott was a misogynist.

Did you email her and demand that she put up proof or apologise?

(Surely a Prime Minister making unsubstantiated libelous comments is much more serious than some unknown poster in a Stock Forum and she should not get away with it).
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You actually serious Dutchie ? Couple of small points

1) Parliament is actually a house of privilege. Laws of libel/slander are exceptionally hard to enforce in such a place. (thats why Parliamentarians of any species can get way with saying almost anything) And anyway Tony Abbott is big enough, ugly enough and brutal enough to take care of himself.

2) Noco chose to make a specific completely unfounded allegation that goes to heart of a reputable reporters work. He said that
The likes of Tony Jones are paid anything up to $10,000 to promote Global Warming or some nasties about Tony Abbott on his QandA show.....Emma A on Late Line is also a recipient
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It's an allegation that for an organisation like the ABC or in fact any other media outlook with integrity should result in an immediate investigation and possible dismissal if found correct.

This is not another of his nebulous, crackpot "all the ABC is Fabian" rants. Ok we know that Noco just rabbits on with absolutely no regard for reality and accept that is part of his persona. Nonetheless it is still a seriously libelous statement and I suggest shouldn't be part of this forum.

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Re Cash for comment. I did say that the allegation against Tony Jones was very serious and would warrant an immediate investigation by the ABC if any evidence was offered to prove it's truth. On the other hand of course in the real world of commercial media no such sanctions apply. (well nothing serious anyway...)

Alan Jones for example received hundreds of thousands of dollars from advertisers (The banks and others ) in personal commissions to say nice things about them when the public was outraged at their gouging of customers. Got away with the lot scot free and laughing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_comment_affair



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basilio said:
You actually serious Dutchie ? Couple of small points

1) Parliament is actually a house of privilege. Laws of libel/slander are exceptionally hard to enforce in such a place. (thats why Parliamentarians of any species can get way with saying almost anything) And anyway Tony Abbott is big enough, ugly enough and brutal enough to take care of himself.

2) Noco chose to make a specific completely unfounded allegation that goes to heart of a reputable reporters work. He said that It's an allegation that for an organisation like the ABC or in fact any other media outlook with integrity should result in an immediate investigation and possible dismissal if found correct.

This is not another of his nebulous, crackpot "all the ABC is Fabian" rants. Ok we know that Noco just rabbits on with absolutely no regard for reality and accept that is part of his persona. Nonetheless it is still a seriously libelous statement and I suggest shouldn't be part of this forum.


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Re Cash for comment. I did say that the allegation against Tony Jones was very serious and would warrant an immediate investigation by the ABC if any evidence was offered to prove it's truth. On the other hand of course in the real world of commercial media no such sanctions apply. (well nothing serious anyway...)

Alan Jones for example received hundreds of thousands of dollars from advertisers (The banks and others ) in personal commissions to say nice things about them when the public was outraged at their gouging of customers. Got away with the lot scot free and laughing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cash_for_comment_affair



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Tony Jones most likely gets in a brown paper bag :D:D
 
From the ABC's Drum:

Baird victory not necessarily good news for Abbott
Opinion
By Paula Matthewson


Baird loss not necessarily good news for Abbott
Opinion
By Paula Matthewson



Take your pick!
 
It is so obvious the way they word things on the ABC.

I rarely watch Q & A anymore, but I did last night, and thought Christopher Pyne did well on there, the fixer, as he was called.
I was surprised seeing Tony Jones reminding Penny Wong of Labors failures with university.
Maybe I am just hoping they will be balanced.

It was still very Left stacked, and I do still think they should be privatised, or part privatised.

The next subject was bullying -- how appropriate, I could remind them of a few home truths.
 
Tink said:
It is so obvious the way they word things on the ABC.

I rarely watch Q & A anymore, but I did last night, and thought Christopher Pyne did well on there, the fixer, as he was called.
I was surprised seeing Tony Jones reminding Penny Wong of Labors failures with university.
Maybe I am just hoping they will be balanced.

It was still very Left stacked, and I do still think they should be privatised, or part privatised.

The next subject was bullying -- how appropriate, I could remind them of a few home truths.
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If it was not obvious that the Coalition know that the ABC is bias then one of Pyne's quips will set you straight...

At one stage a person in the audience made comments which criticised Labor and praised the Coalition.
Pyne commented "How did he get in here" (or words to that affect) (and he was not joking)

Funniest part of the show. (Ruby wasn't)
 
Yes, I saw that dutchie, and laughed also.

I missed the first part of the show and started watching when Pyne was talking about ice, and how they had dealt with drugs in the past.

I agree with noco, when he says it's a Labor/Greens propaganda machine.
He is spot on, and we have all seen the biased.

As I have said, they did not help our election at all, and should be privatised pushing their own agenda.

Why did they never state that Daniel Andrews, Vic Labor, had intentions of selling the Port of Melbourne.

Why didn't they state that Daniel Andrews removed all the drug testing on construction sites for his mates as soon as he came in, and it was only because of the Coalition demanding that we had a problem with ice, that they should reinstate it, and so they did.

It is taxpayer funded and should be reporting both, not just what they want.
 
dutchie said:
If it was not obvious that the Coalition know that the ABC is bias then one of Pyne's quips will set you straight...

At one stage a person in the audience made comments which criticised Labor and praised the Coalition.
Pyne commented "How did he get in here" (or words to that affect) (and he was not joking)

Funniest part of the show. (Ruby wasn't)
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Yes, very funny but as a politician he should also know the answer to his own question.
The guy simply did what every politician does 'to get in'.

He Lied!:)
 
So, in view of the ABC constantly putting the boot into the Catholics in a most unbalanced and unfair manner, only the Christians of course, this organisation now encourages arsonists?

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...church_to_the_cheers_of_an_actress_on_the_abc

Do they realise that their sense of “elation” is the same as that of the Daesh militants, when they destroy Buddhas and relics of ancient history?

Disgraceful.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-03-30/heritage-listed-st-james-church-fire-brighton/6357430
 
What a joke this ABC is!!!!

More solid evidence of Labor bias over the Victorian Labor Government ....The ABC is now blaming Abbott for locking up $3 billion which has been ear marked for the East West freeway.

Why are they not hammering Bill Shorten for his back flip after recommending the East West freeway was a good idea but now it is not such a good idea....The communist dominated unions are in control over Shorten and the Victorian Government.


http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ts/abc_bored_with_640_million_of_labor_waste/
 
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