ABC is Political

[Tisme]

There has to be a problem that has to be sorted out when the head of the ABC gets paid ($800,0000 pa) more than double that of either Tony Abbott, Tony Blair or Barack Obama.

Not bad for a taxpayer funded institution !!!

$800,000 for managing a $1bn turnover is fairly reasonable isn't it? Our man in charge of Qantas gets more for collapsing a national icon into a basket case.

It's not like Abbott is managing very well either, but the truth is he probably receives far more than $800k as a package... just his charity work alone must bring in a modest income for the groceries and bills.

 

[Boggo]

$800,000 for managing a $1bn turnover is fairly reasonable isn't it? Our man in charge of Qantas gets more for collapsing a national icon into a basket case.

It's not like Abbott is managing very well either, but the truth is he probably receives far more than $800k as a package... just his charity work alone must bring in a modest income for the groceries and bills.

If the ABC ran efficiently the turnover would be half that.

They dude in Qantas is just doing the dirty work that was set out ages before he came on board, the demise of the white rat, a plan that Jackson an Co were worried that Borghetti wouldn't follow to the letter.

There is more to these stories than what the average protester knows (or wants to know).

At least the ABC is fair, they used to knock the opposition but since Sept 2013 they now knock the party in power

 

[overhang]

There has to be a problem that has to be sorted out when the head of the ABC gets paid ($800,0000 pa) more than double that of either Tony Abbott, Tony Blair or Barack Obama.

Not bad for a taxpayer funded institution !!!

It's all about relativity, what are rival CEO's being paid in the media industry.
According to this article he earns the least at $695,000

ABC managing director Mark Scott may oversee more journalists than anyone else in the country, but he’s far from our best-paid media boss. Scott’s pay packet is dwarfed by that of his best-paid counterparts in the private sector, a Crikey survey has found. And he’s positively a pauper compared to Melbourne Herald cadet turned News Corp CEO Robert Thomson.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2013/09/25/whos-making-money-on-australian-media-the-ceo-salary-survey/

It may be a tax payer funded organisation but you can't expect to recruit quality without significant remuneration that is similar to rivals. So you must be opposed to Ahmed Fahour earning 4.8 million as CEO of Australia Post or the Medibank Private CEO who earned 1.2 million prior to privatisation. The Federal Police commissioner earns $650k.

 

[Boggo]

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It may be a tax payer funded organisation but you can't expect to recruit quality without significant remuneration that is similar to rivals.

They obviously haven't recruited quality in this case, the guy is useless. If he was doing his job he would have cleaned the place up and made it efficient rather than being forced to, how long do you think he would last in the private sector.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Scott is about to gut ABC Regional and Landline in a puerile attempt to get back at Government for a reasonable request to be more efficient.

Ultimo needs to be cut more.

gg

 

[banco]

Scott is about to gut ABC Regional and Landline in a puerile attempt to get back at Government for a reasonable request to be more efficient.

Ultimo needs to be cut more.

gg

We'll miss all the stories about sheep shearing contests.


Time the Nationals ate their own cooking.

 

[overhang]

They obviously haven't recruited quality in this case, the guy is useless. If he was doing his job he would have cleaned the place up and made it efficient rather than being forced to, how long do you think he would last in the private sector.

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, as far as efficiency is concerned the review found 60 million in savings that could be had but it would cost 75 million to implement. Hardly a reason to justify 254 million in cuts. That really makes your original statement about the salary bizarre too, you think he is doing a poor job so cutting the wage of this job title is bound to attract a suitable replacement....

During this time the ABC have made a very impressive expansion into the digital market.

 

[sptrawler]

Scott is about to gut ABC Regional and Landline in a puerile attempt to get back at Government for a reasonable request to be more efficient.

Ultimo needs to be cut more.

gg

At the end of the day he will have to justify his reasoning, if he can't, no doubt he will be sacked.

 

[sptrawler]

I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion, as far as efficiency is concerned the review found 60 million in savings that could be had but it would cost 75 million to implement. Hardly a reason to justify 254 million in cuts. That really makes your original statement about the salary bizarre too, you think he is doing a poor job so cutting the wage of this job title is bound to attract a suitable replacement....

During this time the ABC have made a very impressive expansion into the digital market.

At the same time alienating a major sector of the population, I guess it depends, what is important.

If he was running your business, and the way he ran it, discouraged women from coming into your shop. Would you be happy because he built you a great website?

 

[banco]

At the same time alienating a major sector of the population, I guess it depends, what is important.

I don't think Rupert Murdoch constitutes a major sector of the population?

 

[SirRumpole]

I don't think Rupert Murdoch constitutes a major sector of the population?

Murdoch has often said that the ABC is eating his lunch, now a bit of it has been regurgitated.


As far as funding the ABC, I wouldn't mind paying say $100 per year to keep it going, provided that I and all the other subscribers could nominate and vote for the board.

Janet Albrechsen would be the first to go, Quentin Dempster would be in.

 

[overhang]

At the same time alienating a major sector of the population, I guess it depends, what is important.

If he was running your business, and the way he ran it, discouraged women from coming into your shop. Would you be happy because he built you a great website?

I don't accept your analogy, it implies I agree with the premise that the ABC alienates a sector of the community which I don't. If one only reads Murdoch press then they will have difficulty finding the ABC balanced but that says more about the Murdoch press than it does about the ABC.

 

[sptrawler]

I don't accept your analogy, it implies I agree with the premise that the ABC alienates a sector of the community which I don't. If one only reads Murdoch press then they will have difficulty finding the ABC balanced but that says more about the Murdoch press than it does about the ABC.

I don't subscibe to any papers and can't even get minimal access, to the 'Australian'.

I derive most of my info and opinion from the internet and T.V.

From the T.V perspective, I personally think you would have to be a moron to watch, Bolt or Q&A.

Far too many presenters and reporters, feel they have the right to push their personal political beliefs, far too many have a belief I'm interested in their belief's.

I don't think I'm alone in this belief.lol

 

[overhang]

I don't subscibe to any papers and can't even get minimal access, to the 'Australian'.

I derive most of my info and opinion from the internet and T.V.

From the T.V perspective, I personally think you would have to be a moron to watch, Bolt or Q&A.

Far too many presenters and reporters, feel they have the right to push their personal political beliefs, far too many have a belief I'm interested in their belief's.

I don't think I'm alone in this belief.lol

Sorry I wasn't referring to you with that statement.
I do think the ABC needs an indirect funding increase, I think an independent board needs to be appointed to oversee the ABC, SBS and Triple J. This board would have the job of ensuring the ABC abide by their charter and handle all complaints too. The board would have the ability to sanction staff that fail to abide by the charter, I'm aware there are many grey areas here but at least an independent board would prevent the accusations of the ABC looking after their own.

 

[sptrawler]

Sorry I wasn't referring to you with that statement.
I do think the ABC needs an indirect funding increase, I think an independent board needs to be appointed to oversee the ABC, SBS and Triple J. This board would have the job of ensuring the ABC abide by their charter and handle all complaints too. The board would have the ability to sanction staff that fail to abide by the charter, I'm aware there are many grey areas here but at least an independent board would prevent the accusations of the ABC looking after their own.

The ABC has a responsibilty to be impartial, if a presenter can't do it they should move to a channell that better fits their leaning.
However, if I as a taxpayer watch the ABC, I expect to hear a concise, factual report or programme.

I'm paying for that.

I also think most of the media, is playing the' Abbott game', thinking they will increase their audience.
All they are doing is making a dysfunctional parliament and an ever more worried population.
They are absolute fools, they will bring on a recession, then their audience will be decimated.

 

[drsmith]

I don't subscibe to any papers and can't even get minimal access, to the 'Australian'.

It's still possible to bypass the paywall. It's more tedious but doable. There's also Andrew Bolt's blog for the guts of some articles.

The Fairfax press is easier.

 

[Julia]

They obviously haven't recruited quality in this case, the guy is useless. If he was doing his job he would have cleaned the place up and made it efficient rather than being forced to, how long do you think he would last in the private sector.

He would never be employed in the private sector in the first place.

Scott is about to gut ABC Regional and Landline in a puerile attempt to get back at Government for a reasonable request to be more efficient.

Ultimo needs to be cut more.

gg

Yes, one of the greatest complaints about the ABC is how Sydney-centric they have become. Scott's tactics are clearly revenge in the hope of causing maximum fall out against the government. Unbelievably petty.

Actually, although I'm against the principle of removing funding from the regions, the actual result on radio at least will probably be an improvement. The local regional radio programs are like something out of the 1960s, completely pathetic.

At the end of the day he will have to justify his reasoning, if he can't, no doubt he will be sacked.

Sacked? By whom?

I don't accept your analogy, it implies I agree with the premise that the ABC alienates a sector of the community which I don't. If one only reads Murdoch press then they will have difficulty finding the ABC balanced but that says more about the Murdoch press than it does about the ABC.

I'm so surprised to hear you say this, overhang. You really don't think there's an unreasonable bias when, e.g., Insiders has just one centre right member amongst a total of four people? Cassidy is ex Labor staffer, and always two others are from the Left, then there's just the lonely Gerard Henderson or Nikki Saava who has to try to get their opinion in against all three.

Then Q & A's Tony Jones blatantly shuts down any views that he doesn't agree with, and the audience guffaws and applauds comments from the Left whilst making their displeasure known at anything with a remotely contrary view.

I could go on with many more examples from radio, viz trying to phone in to radio talkback program to express an opinion contrary to the overwhelming anti-government rhetoric, and being simply told by the producer "we'll take that as a comment, thanks for calling" before hanging up.

Then, looking across all the presenters on Radio National and Local Radio, there is not a single one who has a conservative background. Nearest is Amanda Vanstone, a small l Liberal, with a half hour interview program in an obscure early afternoon time. There must be more than 100 presenters all up, and they almost all come from the Left. No bias???

No bias???? Must be looking through a very specific filter.

 

[sptrawler]

It's still possible to bypass the paywall. It's more tedious but doable. There's also Andrew Bolt's blog for the guts of some articles.

The Fairfax press is easier.

There really isn't much worth reading doc, there are very few articles that give a true appraisal and account of the facts.IMO

A few days later when all the 'dust' settles, the facts come out and are easily read on free sites.
The initial hot off the press articles in most instances, are supposition and speculation, with the reporters bent on it. Well that's my belief.

 

[overhang]

He would never be employed in the private sector in the first place.


Yes, one of the greatest complaints about the ABC is how Sydney-centric they have become. Scott's tactics are clearly revenge in the hope of causing maximum fall out against the government. Unbelievably petty.

Actually, although I'm against the principle of removing funding from the regions, the actual result on radio at least will probably be an improvement. The local regional radio programs are like something out of the 1960s, completely pathetic.

Sacked? By whom?


I'm so surprised to hear you say this, overhang. You really don't think there's an unreasonable bias when, e.g., Insiders has just one centre right member amongst a total of four people? Cassidy is ex Labor staffer, and always two others are from the Left, then there's just the lonely Gerard Henderson or Nikki Saava who has to try to get their opinion in against all three.

Then Q & A's Tony Jones blatantly shuts down any views that he doesn't agree with, and the audience guffaws and applauds comments from the Left whilst making their displeasure known at anything with a remotely contrary view.

I could go on with many more examples from radio, viz trying to phone in to radio talkback program to express an opinion contrary to the overwhelming anti-government rhetoric, and being simply told by the producer "we'll take that as a comment, thanks for calling" before hanging up.

Then, looking across all the presenters on Radio National and Local Radio, there is not a single one who has a conservative background. Nearest is Amanda Vanstone, a small l Liberal, with a half hour interview program in an obscure early afternoon time. There must be more than 100 presenters all up, and they almost all come from the Left. No bias???

No bias???? Must be looking through a very specific filter.

Fair points, I guess I more meant that I don't think it's extreme as Sptrawlers analogy implied. I seem to have forgotten that when writing that I can't watch Q&A and Insiders without finding myself quite frustrated. I find the ABC news pretty balanced all though I'm sick of the political correctness being shoved down our throats eg

A new study has found that women make up just a quarter of those employed in the key management positions of Australian companies

which was one of todays top stories.

The thing is bias can be quite a subjective topic, for example I would imagine if the ABC were able to start moving to the right so to speak then I feel you would find it quite balanced before say noco does.

 

[sptrawler]

However, if I as a taxpayer watch the ABC, I expect to hear a concise, factual report or programme.

I'm paying for that.

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Obviously I'm not the only one that believe's, the ABC should write/report facts, they don't get paid to sensationalise.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/abc-news-phil-hughes-tweet-causes-uproar-20141125-11tnwu.html

Leave the BS to the commercial press, let them pick winners, they live and die by their choices.

The ABC doesn't have to attract advertising dollars, so why not just give accurate imformative coverage?:1zhelp: