Australian (ASX) Stock Market Forum

ABC is Political

Jump to new
Lie on coving a lie

More from the Liberal Daily News


Tony Abbott denies he broke promises over ABC cuts


TONY Abbott has denied that he promised there would be no cuts to the ABC and SBS.
Click to expand...


We all know this is true apparently Shorten only just worked it out

Mr Shorten said Mr Abbott had misled the public and was engaging in an “extremist, ruthless, right-wing campaign to silence the ABC”.
Click to expand...


Veteran ABC presenter Quentin Dempster described the timing of the cuts as a bit of “bastardry from Tony Abbott”.
Click to expand...


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...es-over-abc-cuts/story-e6frg996-1227133175260
 
IFocus said:
Lie on coving a lie

More from the Liberal Daily News


Tony Abbott denies he broke promises over ABC cuts





We all know this is true apparently Shorten only just worked it out







http://www.theaustralian.com.au/med...es-over-abc-cuts/story-e6frg996-1227133175260
Click to expand...

So why should the ABC not have expenditure cuts the same as all the others....are they a cut above all the others?....we have to make sacrifices to pay back the Rudd $900 cheques which was really a loan plus all the rest the mess Gillard left.
 
noco said:
So why should the ABC not have expenditure cuts the same as all the others....are they a cut above all the others?....we have to make sacrifices to pay back the Rudd $900 cheques which was really a loan plus all the rest the mess Gillard left.
Click to expand...

Noco, that is a completely separate point from the issue of Tony Abbott now saying he didn't say what everyone clearly knows he said.
There is no way in the world this is excusable.

Yes, of course the ABC should experience cuts, despite their hysterical sooking over it today and probably for the next year. But that does not alter Mr Abbott's perfidy.
 
Since Vic Labor says they are going to sack the Ambulance Board, maybe we should sack the ABC Board.

I am all for the comments on public/private.
 
Julia said:
Noco, that is a completely separate point from the issue of Tony Abbott now saying he didn't say what everyone clearly knows he said.
There is no way in the world this is excusable.

Yes, of course the ABC should experience cuts, despite their hysterical sooking over it today and probably for the next year. But that does not alter Mr Abbott's perfidy.
Click to expand...

So if you say there is no way in the world this is excusable, do you think he should do the right thing and resign his post?.......As I said in the appropriate post, it would get the monkey off the back of the party because Shorten will flog this until the next election......He will do his best to turn voters off Abbott.

What do you think Abbott should do prevent it?
 
noco said:
What do you think Abbott should do prevent it?
Click to expand...

Abbott should stop and think at times about the longer term. He has a habit of saying things that sound good in the short term and trying to please as many people as possible. Some people still remember what he said to farmers in relation to mineral and gas resources on day and in the next couple saying something contradictory to resource companies.

He has not learned from some of the mistakes of Rudd - that is saying stuff to try and please as many people as possible when it doesn't need to be said.

Abbott may have great educational credentials but he doesn't seem to be using it. Instead he seems more interested in his opposition style of looking for the 3 word slogans for news. Also seems more interested in fighting Labor instead of leading a nation. Look back at Howard. He talked more about national need and not about Liberal vs Labor. He used other ministers for that (like Abbott at the time).
 
Versatile is the ABC's Commissar Waleed Aly.

One minute he's on Offsiders talking sport with Gerard Whateley and the crew. Next, he's on Q & A tut-tutting and wagging his finger at Amanda Vanstone.

Channel Waleed. But ssshh, don't say 'Muslim' or 'Islam'.

If the ABC budget is so tight, perhaps management could review how much they're paying him, as opposed to the regional services copping it in the neck, like a lizard shedding it's tail.
 
McLovin said:
The sensationalist garbage that passes for current affairs on ACA and TT get over a million viewers. From the little I've seen of Bolt, his show would target that same demographic.

Lachie is just trying to turn Ten into a mini Faux News, with guys like Bolt and that idiot on the morning show.
Click to expand...

Agree, the target audience are fishwives by nature who crave incendiary arguments ...it's a drug to them. The same thing happens on discussion boards were a certain % almost need to be trolled and abused, while a larger % (it seems) delight in the agony it engenders.

The trouble with the increasing polarisation of political viewpoints and the a fawning over politicians as a result, is that the centre stage appears more left to those of the right and more right to those on the left due to parallax error and blur.

I revisit our time as a nation pre federation, on occasion, to recalibrate my yardstick as to what is right and what is left and I have to say there has been some drift in values that were the foundation of our nation and I wonder if we could do with a dose of their nation building cohesion that appears sadly lacking today.
 
Tisme said:
I revisit our time as a nation pre federation, on occasion, to recalibrate my yardstick as to what is right and what is left and I have to say there has been some drift in values that were the foundation of our nation and I wonder if we could do with a dose of their nation building cohesion that appears sadly lacking today.
Click to expand...

Two, or three if you include the Nationals, entrenched parties more interested in beating each other and waging a class war than nation building.

The whole edifice of politics is crumbling and needs to be torn down and rebuilt. We badly need a new party of evidence based people who decide policy of the basis of facts and not ideology.

Palmer and the Greens are not those people, I wonder who is ?
 
Tisme said:
Agree, the target audience are fishwives by nature who crave incendiary arguments ...it's a drug to them. The same thing happens on discussion boards were a certain % almost need to be trolled and abused, while a larger % (it seems) delight in the agony it engenders.

The trouble with the increasing polarisation of political viewpoints and the a fawning over politicians as a result, is that the centre stage appears more left to those of the right and more right to those on the left due to parallax error and blur.

I revisit our time as a nation pre federation, on occasion, to recalibrate my yardstick as to what is right and what is left and I have to say there has been some drift in values that were the foundation of our nation and I wonder if we could do with a dose of their nation building cohesion that appears sadly lacking today.
Click to expand...

+ 1 as some one from the left of the Communists party (on social issues not the Stalin model ) the Labor Party of today is closer to the Menzies Government than the Coalition is.


The continued criticism of the ABC from people here that its a left wing organisation completely bemuses me.


BTW Christine Milne got an absolute pounding the other day on AM......not a whimper here about it :rolleyes:
 
IFocus said:
+ 1 as some one from the left of the Communists party (on social issues not the Stalin model ) the Labor Party of today is closer to the Menzies Government than the Coalition is.


The continued criticism of the ABC from people here that its a left wing organisation completely bemuses me.
Click to expand...

Are you serious when you say the Labor Party is closer to the Menzies Government than the Liberals?...You are joking of course.

I will hit you over the head with it again, the Greens and half the Labor party are members of the Fabian Society, an affiliate of communism.

Jenny Macklin, Chris Bowen, Stephan Conroy, Tony Burke, Penny Wong just to name a few and of course don't forget Gillard and the late Gough Whitlam, who was their patron, were and still are members of the Fabian Society.

Why do you think Gillard got rid of Rudd?...It was because Rudd was not a Fabian...Rudd was an obstacle in implementing the Fabian rules.

Just go to google to view the full list.......You may be in for some surprises.
 
IFocus said:
BTW Christine Milne got an absolute pounding the other day on AM......not a whimper here about it :rolleyes:
Click to expand...

Well do you think maybe, the recent rocket up them, has made them realise they need to get back to basics. Instead of allowing presenters to run personal agendas.:D

My guess is Channel 10 presenters will get told soon. It is impossible to run an entertainment medium, when you are trying to appeal to a small sector. The presenters are doing themselves and their shareholders a disservice.
 
noco said:
I will hit you over the head with it again, the Greens and half the Labor party are members of the Fabian Society, an affiliate of communism.
Click to expand...

And how many LNP members are affiliates of the IPA, spokesmen for big business and the destruction of social services.

Frankly I find the idea of big business running the country for the benefit of themselves and people like Rupert Murdoch a much more frightening prospect than a few latte socialists spouting about social justice.

So enough of this Fabian nonsense, they are much less dangerous than the Far Right, for which our current Prime Minister is an enthusiastic advocate.
 
For the first time since I have been watching QandA. I must confess the ABC have taken the hint and put on a far more balanced show last night.....The panel was well balanced and the audience also.

I thought Noel Pearson came over very well and did not pull any punches about the ABC.

It looks like the ABC have finally got the message.....lets hope they continue although last night was the last for the year.
 
noco said:
So if you say there is no way in the world this is excusable, do you think he should do the right thing and resign his post?.......As I said in the appropriate post, it would get the monkey off the back of the party because Shorten will flog this until the next election......He will do his best to turn voters off Abbott.

What do you think Abbott should do prevent it?
Click to expand...
boofhead has very adequately responded to your question. After more than a year in the job Mr Abbott should have developed an ease of communication and increased confidence from the electorate. Instead he is going in the other direction. As "The Australian" pointed out in the wake of the G20, with the FTAs signed and all the pomp of so many world leaders here, someone like Paul Keating would have been trumpeting his success loudly and convincingly. Instead, much of the focus fell on the ill mannered Obama's speech to a bunch of children, and how many people were unkind to Putin!!

If Mr Abbott can't do better than this, then yes, he should move aside for someone more able to communicate properly.

Logique said:
Versatile is the ABC's Commissar Waleed Aly.

One minute he's on Offsiders talking sport with Gerard Whateley and the crew. Next, he's on Q & A tut-tutting and wagging his finger at Amanda Vanstone.

Channel Waleed. But ssshh, don't say 'Muslim' or 'Islam'.

If the ABC budget is so tight, perhaps management could review how much they're paying him, as opposed to the regional services copping it in the neck, like a lizard shedding it's tail.
Click to expand...
Well, I'd largely support Waleed Aly. I hear him often on his radio program and find him an intelligent, thoughtful commentator and interviewer. Also has a good, if subtle, sense of humour.
 
There has to be a problem that has to be sorted out when the head of the ABC gets paid ($800,0000 pa) more than double that of either Tony Abbott, Tony Blair or Barack Obama.

Not bad for a taxpayer funded institution !!!
 
Boggo said:
There has to be a problem that has to be sorted out when the head of the ABC gets paid ($800,0000 pa) more than double that of either Tony Abbott, Tony Blair or Barack Obama.

Not bad for a taxpayer funded institution !!!
Click to expand...

+1.:rolleyes:
 
Top