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Read the Australian most days and they do have some fine journalists but the political commentary is pure comedy.

Some of the convoluted logic praising conservative actions just defies the imagination and for entertainment reading the unhinged comments often makes me wonder what Australia has become.
 
macca said:
SP,

Here in NSW the Daily Telegraph is firewalled but at present New.com.au is not

https://www.news.com.au/

I read that, the ABC and Fairfax at SMH plus Yahoo news, quite interesting looking at all the different spins
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That works great macca, cheers. I only had the Australian bookmarked, but could never get to the articles, thanks for the heads up it will be a bit of a change from SMH and ABC.
 
PZ99 said:
Haha - the mining companies and an obstructionist opposition more like it...

Remember this ?

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easy to rewrite history isn't it;
Union were against Rudd after he threatened their power within Labour.
Even if not Labour myself, Rudd dared to have party members have a voice, not the unions and factions..
He was then on the go
Being Labour, he was opposed anyway by big business and that was clear and known.The unions stabbing him in the back was the surprise...and the start of PM backstabbing which carried on to this date,,,,
but sure Rudd was pushed by the mining lobby....with a BIG help from the unions...
 
qldfrog said:
easy to rewrite history isn't it;
Union were against Rudd after he threatened their power within Labour.
Even if not Labour myself, Rudd dared to have party members have a voice, not the unions and factions..
He was then on the go
Being Labour, he was opposed anyway by big business and that was clear and known.The unions stabbing him in the back was the surprise...and the start of PM backstabbing which carried on to this date,,,,
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but sure Rudd was pushed by the mining lobby....with a BIG help from the unions...
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I agree with your last sentence which is why history isn't being rewritten.

The dominant Labor right undermined Rudd but the mining tax was the trigger for a slump in the polls and opened the door for the backstabbing. No wonder the revised tax brought in no revenue - it was designed by the mining lobby :)

But again, my point.. which is easily avoided... is the role of Murdoch media directly undermining our democracy in the three cases I listed previously. All this whilst owning us billions in tax.

People ask why their taxes support the ABC if it doesn't support their political dispositions.

I ask why my taxes are supporting an A-Grade tax avoider with a grudge against anyone who disagrees with his special form of anti left / pro right dogma.

So I stand by my original comment - if you want to privatise the ABC get rid of Murdoch first.

You'll save us all from two drains on our tax revenue.
 
OK cf Rudd..and BTW, I favor a proper mining tax, joining environmental real protection by taxing dirt moved and not only end product to avoid "raping" of resources..I worked in mining for a long time and could explain you what I mean if you want
Except Fox news which is an American crap as much as CNN is and not relevant to Australia, what do you think is the importance of Murdoch media here??
I wish I could get some right views:
here in qld, courier mail, Brisbane Times are the only 2 media I can watch outside ABC or News limited .

News ltd does not ALWAYS bash the right but it is still full on globalist and global warming focus with a socialist view on the economy.
So what is the importance of your nemesis??
Another past hang up I think
 
It's all laid out in my previous two posts. Avoiding tax and actively trolling our political system for personal gain is not the sort of thing I want my taxes supporting. That whole dirty process of undermining the Turnbull Govt kinda made me sick and it's not even a Govt I would've voted for.

It makes me sick because it's akin to having myopic views shoved down my throat and anyone who disagrees with it is automatically inferior. Trampling on others to amass a fortune is one thing.

Star Wars Darth Vader wannabees from within the Corporatocracy who were born with money and think of themselves as born to rule is dangerous in the extreme.

Murdoch doesn't own this country - we do.
 
PZ99 said:
It's all laid out in my previous two posts. Avoiding tax and actively trolling our political system for personal gain is not the sort of thing I want my taxes supporting. That whole dirty process of undermining the Turnbull Govt kinda made me sick and it's not even a Govt I would've voted for.

It makes me sick because it's akin to having myopic views shoved down my throat and anyone who disagrees with it is automatically inferior. Trampling on others to amass a fortune is one thing.

Star Wars Darth Vader wannabees from within the Corporatocracy who were born with money and think of themselves as born to rule is dangerous in the extreme.

Murdoch doesn't own this country - we do.
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I think all the media do it. To say one is worse than another is flawed, just because one side aligns more with your beliefs, doesnt make it more virtuous.
 
sptrawler said:
I think all the media do it. To say one is worse than another is flawed, just because one side aligns more with your beliefs, doesnt make it more virtuous.
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I don't have beliefs - I just fry the biggest fish :)
 
PZ99 said:
I don't have beliefs - I just fry the biggest fish :)
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I dont have a problem with that, just that it seems to be one media gets fried and I dont read it, so maybe it is justified.
All Im saying is the only media I can read, which is Fairfax, seems pretty one sided.
I remember posting at the beginning of this pandemic, that I thought it was pretty outrageous that a media announcement should start with, have we got the Government we deserve, because the Government hadnt called for a complete lockdown.
That wasnt done by Murdoch media, so like I say it isnt a one way street.
People need to become independent thinkers IMO.
 
sptrawler said:
I dont have a problem with that, just that it seems to be one media gets fried and I dont read it, so maybe it is justified.
All Im saying is the only media I can read, which is Fairfax, seems pretty one sided.
I remember posting at the beginning of this pandemic, that I thought it was pretty outrageous that a media announcement should start with, have we got the Government we deserve, because the Government hadnt called for a complete lockdown.
That wasnt done by Murdoch media, so like I say it isnt a one way street.
People need to become independent thinkers IMO.
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Independent thinking is something I've always advocated on ASF starting with SSM and ending with cursory glances and disagreement with sycophantry views governing conspiracy theories...

That's why I go with Google News - it samples articles from all 4 corners :p
 
I wonder how long it will be, before George Pells takes someone to Court, over the whole incarceration incident?
 
I just saw this article on the ABC website and thought this typifies the problem the media have, when Morrison was away on holidays at the outbreaks of the bushfires, the media said he should be here and didn't let upon it for a long time after he rushed home.
When in actual fact bushfires and bushfire departments are a State function.

Now today this article.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04...tion-schools-scott-morrison-response/12149984
From the article:
Seated in the Prime Minister's office with the Australian flag behind him, it was not the teachers or families mentioned in his video that Scott Morrison needed to convince.

As he stared down the barrel of the camera on Wednesday morning appealing for schools to remain open, some — including the state education ministers — likely saw something else: an attempt to use the bully pulpit of the Prime Minister's office to have them fall in line.

So on one hand he is condemned for not being here to influence the States and on the other he is criticised for trying to influence the States.

Is there any wonder people are becoming disenfranchised and confused with the media, I just hope they all go broke, because the last thing they appear to want to do is report a balanced two sided view?
Maybe it is all about influencing people today, by some of the posts on here, they probably do a good job.
Whether the silent majority swallow it is another thing IMO.
 
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sptrawler said:
I suppose the way Margaret Court and Israel Folau were treated falls under the auspices, but instead of prosecuted, they were persecuted.
Just my opinion
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Afraid not two of them have been criticized because of their public opinions of vulnerable minority groups in our society.
One of them for their behavior regarding pedophile priests and charges stemming from a witness whose testimony was not challenged but was found not guily on appeal due to the likey hood of the circumstances.
 
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