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Now the left wing journo's have joined in the rant, what a hoot, how the Journo's decide what will and won't be broadcast.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/com...-s-tangled-corporate-web-20180926-p5061t.html
Just shows, what dirt they have stored away, for recalcitrant bosses. lol
Why wasn't that news last week?

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...ord-this-bloodied-season-20180926-p5063w.html

Yes the last thing you can do is intimidate the meek. :roflmao:

Mike Nahan, found that out in W.A, to his peril.

Labor just has to hope, the tide doesn't turn. lol

Sounds to me like the journo's just need to spill their beans, and maybe get a big change over of directors, as they all seem to be conflicted in interest.
I really hope this all goes bang, it is about time, for a major shakeup.IMO
 
Imagine the outrage from the right if it were a Labor politician and ABC chairman that conspired to have a journalist fired that wrote a piece critical of a Labor government policy.
 
sptrawler said:
It doesn't appear that is going to happen.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-...our-most-precious-asset-gaven-morris/10308744

Independence isn't their most precious asset, impartiality is, that is the root cause of their problem they think they can take sides. IMO
They can't take sides, they are paid for by all sides of political persuasions, they can't decide which is the 'right' argument, they must present them all equally.
If the presenter can't do that, they should buy a tambourine, then go and beat it at their own expense not the taxpayers.
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If I had to put a cultural identity on the ABC I'd suggest it's stocked with university arts, drama and pantomine types.
 
Why don't the commercial channels, networks, media get the scrutiny the ABC does? I guess because its tax payer funded, but still a bit of fairness please.
 
How convenient that the ABC staff seem to have amnesia about the time when Mallah was the news and how Abbott intervened and why.

And while I usually enjoy Emma tearing strips off her victims, she was shown by social media to have been less than diligent with the facts and bias earlier in the year.
 
The ABC always put the government under more scrutiny than the Opposition because the government has the power to act, unlike the Opposition.

Hawke and Keating didn't like the ABC either, for the same reason. That's one of the downsides of being in government, if you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen, right Concetta ? ;)
 
PZ99 said:
I'm on board with that; move the ABC to the left and balance out the spectrum. Perfect solution.
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The email, sounded as though the board was aware of the obvious bias against the Government, and as was said there is no gaurantee they will lose the next election.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but their charter say's they are meant to be non aligned.
I know that isn't a problem if they are leaning your way, but a big problem if they're not.:roflmao:
I personally would like to see the ABC flogged off, if they are going to take sides and skew reporting and I don't care if they are skewing it left or right.
That isn't what they are there for, and there is better things to spend taxpayers money on, than funding jobs for political activists. IMO
 
Well first of all I have no time for any social engineering they might be involved with. But this perception of bias against the Coalition is long, legendary and convenient when it has to be.
EG: I didn't hear of any "bias" when the ABC reported the triumphs of the budgets last week.

My view is this: In the eyes of most people, the Govt overall has been performing poorly for 4+ years and any attempt by the media to accurately report that performance will be looked upon as bias by Coalition supporters. I frequently see elsewhere on the 'net the argument that says that every Coalition own goal reported on the ABC should be matched minute for minute by an anti ALP jibe - no matter how obscure or real it is - simply for the purpose of "equal treatment".

And then there's this continual issue of funding. Apparently we taxpayers have the right to dictate the on-air content of zero bias on the ABC solely because we pay for it. OK, fine with me, but why limit that to the ABC? Why not all Govt funded organisations? Even the Govt itself? After all, last time I checked, it was Liberals biased against Liberals, Nationals against Nationals and the Govt hating itself so much it might as well be 75 different parties.
Acceptable it ain't - coz it's my tax money sponsoring this muppet show right?

And then there's reality. My view is this bias argument is a red herring when it all comes down to perspective. If the Govt doesn't want to be on the receiving end of negative bias (whether from the ABC or its own members) then they just need to pull their finger out, get real and do away with all this frivolity, white noise and small beer stuff.

As for selling the ABC, yeah I can agree with that. We'll save a billion a year which we can use to litigate against Murdoch for tax avoidance and save another billion every year as well.
 
PZ99 said:
Well first of all I have no time for any social engineering they might be involved with. But this perception of bias against the Coalition is long, legendary and convenient when it has to be.
EG: I didn't hear of any "bias" when the ABC reported the triumphs of the budgets last week.
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Actually I will make this easy for you, show any negative report on the ABC, since Labor lost office five years ago.
A lot of their policy is very polarizing, therefore there should be some report that gives both sides, of their policies.
Can you post up anything?:roflmao:
I tell you what, to make it more even, for every negative ALP article you post, I will post two Negative Abbott articles. Do you want to have a side bet on the winner.:laugh:
The ABC is there to give the facts, and a balanced view of politics, not the presenters political leanings.
There was a lot of places in Australia, that only received the ABC broadcast, so it was important that they were impartial.
With the advent of the internet, satellite transmission and wireless coverage. The requirement for the ABC becomes less tenuous, if they aren't supplying a balanced fair representation, they will be sold off. If not by the Libs, it will be by Labor, as Keating said "there is no longer a requirement for the Government to be involved in retail banking".
The same will apply to the ABC, if they aren't providing a non aligned service.
 
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sptrawler said:
Actually I will make this easy for you, show any negative report on the ABC, since Labor lost office five years ago.
A lot of their policy is very polarizing, therefore there should be some report that gives both sides, of their policies.
Can you post up anything?:roflmao:
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Sure I can. But in exchange for what? This a trade forum, so let's trade :)

Wanna show me an ABC report that is disproportionally pro Labor?
 
PZ99 said:
Sure I can. But in exchange for what? This a trade forum, so let's trade :)

Wanna show me an ABC report that is disproportionally pro Labor?
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That is exactly what I'm saying, they say nothing about Labor and its policies.
Which in reality could exacerbate an already shaky housing market, the election is in a maximum of eight months time.
If the current Labor policy of reducing capital gains to 25%, and limiting negative gearing is enacted, it could well cause a massive housing correction. IMO
If this isn't the case, I would love to hear labors reasoning, that will avoid it.
Obviously it isn't seen as anywhere near as big a problem, as someone saying Malcolm Turnbull asked for an ABC reporter to be sacked.
That took up about a weeks worth of ABC's time, yet today it isn't mentioned, because that Milne dude said no one asked me to sack anyone.
I can't understand why there is an ABC board, getting paid, fluck them off and let the reporters run it. It looks like they do anyway, so we would save a ton of money, better still like I said sell them they are a relic of the past.
 
Well feel free to indulge on these Shorten reports, but to be fair, it really should be a contest of Labor in Govt versus Liberal in Govt. Leadership changes, unstable Govt, bad policy, it's all there. You can't really compare a Govt against an opposition because they aren't the same identity.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-11/sam-dastyari-under-pressure-to-resign-from-within-labor-party/9245526

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-...l-shorten-had-a-captains-fall-opinion/9922742

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-...-malcolm-turnbull-linked-to-vic-labor/9263578

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-06-30/bill-shorten-company-tax-election/9925112

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-05-...abor-of-love-doesnt-extend-to-shorten/7458960

As for neg gearing, don't believe half of what you read and none of what you hear. They will back flip just as much as this Govt has, and the previous Govt and the one before that.
 
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I was going to start and post anti Turnbull, anti Abbott, anti LNP posts.
But then I looked at the dates on your posts.
Like I said the current issue I want debated, and questioned is Labors policies, as they are a shoe in to get Government.
Your answer, don't worry about it, she'll be right. By any chance, would you be employed by them? :roflmao:
I just want Tony Jones and Emma, to ask them the hard questions, it would be nice.
As for the ABC, just go to their webpage, every morning. I do
Just out of interest I just went over to their webpage.
Apparently at the moment, we have the most job vacancies listed in the last 10 years, it isn't up on the page, yet it is a fairly important milestone one would think.
My appologies, it is the highest job vacancies, since records were started. lol
Not a mention on the ABC, too busy, running the business. lol
But one could think, it might be seen as a positive for the Government, so they didn't run it. Or I missed it.:rolleyes:
https://thewest.com.au/business/eco...ncies-hit-record-high-of-236700-ng-b88973941z

Maybe that example is a bit too current, after all, it is the ABC.
 
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sptrawler said:
I was going to start and post anti Turnbull, anti Abbott, anti LNP posts.
But then I looked at the dates on your posts.
Like I said the current issue I want debated, and questioned is Labors policies, as they are a shoe in to get Government.
Your answer, don't worry about it, she'll be right. By any chance, would you be employed by them? :roflmao:
I just want Tony Jones and Emma, to ask them the hard questions, it would be nice.
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As a matter of fact, I said last week that the current softening of the housing market might force the ALP to back down their neg gearing policy so, no, I didn't say "she'll be right" - that's an invention of yours - very much akin to what the Liberal Party does - by any chance, would you be employed by them?

And your original challenge - which I met - wasn't limited to neg gearing policy. It was quote "since Labor lost office five years ago." We can't nefariously change the goalposts :p
 
PZ99 said:
As a matter of fact, I said last week that the current softening of the housing market might force the ALP to back down their neg gearing policy so, no, I didn't say "she'll be right" - that's an invention of yours - very much akin to what the Liberal Party does - by any chance, would you be employed by them?

And your original challenge - which I met - wasn't limited to neg gearing policy. It was quote "since Labor lost office five years ago." We can't nefariously change the goalposts :p
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If you read below, I added a current issue, actually as of today.:p
 
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