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Reading the online responses by LNP tragics to the table broken affair, it is quite evident they have the insider facts on whodunnit, it wasn't Jamie Briggs, but the Penny Wong's debt legacy in concert with the ABC apparently. Good on them for clearing that up. :rolleyes:
 
I watched QandA on Monday night and in particular how the Greenie and Labor raved on about 100 kids still in detention on Nauru Island....Never mind about the 2000 who were held in detention under Labor and the 1250 lives lost at sea....No no...we must not talk about that.

I was disappointed in Ken Wyatt's response as he appeared ill-informed as to what has taken place with those kids.

From what I understand of the situation is the government tried to take the women and kids off Nauru while their fathers and husbands were being checked out for their identity and their country of origin.......The illegals who are not willing to co-operate are really $hitting in their own nests....But on the other hand they have been told they will not be settled in Australia and have been given the option to either return home or go to Cambodia....It is more than likely those still on Nauru are not genuine refugees and may well be from Iran or a country where their is no persecution...they are here for the economic reason of a generous welfare system.

As for that Muslim on the show, he was having 2 bob each way...Grrrr.
 
Tisme said:
Good to see you are broadening your information base away from the NewsCrap sphere
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Excuse me????????

It is a pity you did not start talking sensible stuff people can understand instead of all these juvenile riddles you waffle on about in your posts....Most of it makes no sense..
 
noco said:
Excuse me????????

It is a pity you did not start talking sensible stuff people can understand instead of all these juvenile riddles you waffle on about in your posts....Most of it makes no sense..
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You need to be attuned to a Higher Force

:D
 
noco said:
Excuse me????????

It is a pity you did not start talking sensible stuff people can understand instead of all these juvenile riddles you waffle on about in your posts....Most of it makes no sense..
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Obviously QANDA hasn't begun it's antidote to the frontal lobe. :rolleyes::D Give it time 'ol boy...now what do we do about that paralysed funny bone of yours tch tch :p:
 
MrBurns said:
The RC is a waste of money, just throw all the bastards in jail along with that lying sleaze bag Shorten who is in this up to his neck
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To be fair to Shorten his maneuvering to dislodge the CFMEU from the east link project was a pro business move, at least in application, even if not in intent. Sure he made business pay his union: the AWU but they were only prepared to pay because it was a better deal than what dealing with the CFMEU would have been.

I don't think that is jail time worthy, it's just making a quid for his employer at the time which was the AWU.

I think the people who should really be dark at him are the workers who basically pay their dues to unions to get the best possible result and then you have one Union White Anting another.

Don't see how any of that is criminal?

I should add my experience attempting to negotiate with the vic AWU in the think of all that around 06-07 is that they would not budge on pay v the CFMEU but would only move on rdo flexibility and inclement weather around heat. Not massive concessions really anyway.
 
I think the people who should really be dark at him are the workers who basically pay their dues to unions to get the best possible result and then you have one Union White Anting another.

Don't see how any of that is criminal?
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I don't see how unions white anting each other is criminal any more than businesses cutting their competitions throats by cutting costs or using shoddy materials or badmouthing the competitions products is criminal.

It's certainly not the best business model available but competition policy apparently says that this sort of thing is fine "in the interests of the consumer".

Businesses amalgamate and take over other businesses to improve their operations and profits so thinking that unions should not do the same is a bit naive.
 
This is typical misleading reporting.IMO

The Roe HWY extension 8 is required, no matter who is in Government, trucks coming to a T junction, then doglegging endlessly to get to a port is crazy.
Whether it is the existing port or a new port, the trucks still will need to arrive and depart them in an efficient manner.
Getting to the article, the last sentence sums up the ABC's, weird take on journalistic license.

Earlier this week, Mr Barnett was surrounded by protestors and heckled in Bibra Lake as the Government announced that Leighton Contractors would build stage one of the project.

They were surrounded by about 20 protesters.:eek::eek::eek:

Surrounded, I don't think so, talk it up ABC , 20 people, in a population of 1.4 million, what a hoot. :D

The ABC is becoming very sad at relaying the truth accurately.IMO

Here's the whole article.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-01/colin-barnett-parks-stage-two-of-perth-freight-link/6903282
 
sptrawler said:
This is typical misleading reporting.IMO

The Roe HWY extension 8 is required, no matter who is in Government, trucks coming to a T junction, then doglegging endlessly to get to a port is crazy.
Whether it is the existing port or a new port, the trucks still will need to arrive and depart them in an efficient manner.
Getting to the article, the last sentence sums up the ABC's, weird take on journalistic license.

Earlier this week, Mr Barnett was surrounded by protestors and heckled in Bibra Lake as the Government announced that Leighton Contractors would build stage one of the project.

They were surrounded by about 20 protesters.:eek::eek::eek:

Surrounded, I don't think so, talk it up ABC , 20 people, in a population of 1.4 million, what a hoot. :D

The ABC is becoming very sad at relaying the truth accurately.IMO

Here's the whole article.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-11-01/colin-barnett-parks-stage-two-of-perth-freight-link/6903282
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One thing I admire about West Australians is their on the ground defence of things that don't sit right ...even if the govt ignores them. In QLD no one gives a fig and merely shrugs off the loss of dispensable things like Koala habitats, fisheries, farms, historical bldgs, the rivers, etc... the ultimate she'll be right attitude that centres around Rugby League and Jetskis.

I'm trying to figure out if those protestors were stooges for the Premier's propaganda or actually concerned citizens?

Does the ABC criticise the Premier regularly or keep his profile up as favours to his media advisors?
 
Tisme said:
One thing I admire about West Australians is their on the ground defence of things that don't sit right ...even if the govt ignores them. In QLD no one gives a fig and merely shrugs off the loss of dispensable things like Koala habitats, fisheries, farms, historical bldgs, the rivers, etc... the ultimate she'll be right attitude that centres around Rugby League and Jetskis.

I'm trying to figure out if those protestors were stooges for the Premier's propaganda or actually concerned citizens?

Does the ABC criticise the Premier regularly or keep his profile up as favours to his media advisors?
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Barnett runs a close second to Abbott, in the media support stakes.:D

It is just that Barnett ignores them and gets on with it.
 
sptrawler said:
Barnett runs a close second to Abbott, in the media support stakes.:D

It is just that Barnett ignores them and gets on with it.
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He plays the reluctant hero card well, I've heard? Kinda "Awe gee if I really have to me Premier I'll keep doin' it 'til you get fed up with me, then I'll going surfin'"
 
The ABC will get a new broom in 2016......Gotta get rid of Scott....and good riddense to a bad smell.
 
Tisme said:
He plays the reluctant hero card well, I've heard? Kinda "Awe gee if I really have to me Premier I'll keep doin' it 'til you get fed up with me, then I'll going surfin'"
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A past president of the W.A Australian Services Union, who was a personal friend, told me Barnett was the only one in W.A politics with a brain.:xyxthumbs

Everyone thinks he is arrogant, but I think he is just pi$$ed off talking to muppets like McGowan every day.

Anyone would get sick of defending the obvious everyday, like this freight link storm in a tea cup, eventually Perth needs a ring road.
This Roe Hwy extension is part of it, whether it is completed now or in 10 years time, it will be completed.
Yet Labor think by opposing it they look clever, they look stupid.IMO
 
sptrawler said:
A past president of the W.A Australian Services Union, who was a personal friend, told me Barnett was the only one in W.A politics with a brain.:xyxthumbs

Everyone thinks he is arrogant, but I think he is just pi$$ed off talking to muppets like McGowan every day.

Anyone would get sick of defending the obvious everyday, like this freight link storm in a tea cup, eventually Perth needs a ring road.
This Roe Hwy extension is part of it, whether it is completed now or in 10 years time, it will be completed.
Yet Labor think by opposing it they look clever, they look stupid.IMO
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Perth doesn't seem to have changed much over the years...the urban sprawl is obviously noticeable, but there's a sameness to metroscape.
 
Tisme said:
Perth doesn't seem to have changed much over the years...the urban sprawl is obviously noticeable, but there's a sameness to metroscape.
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That's true and why a seamless road will be required, to bypass it.
If you are arriving from the south, North or east there will be a need for a bypass road.
The big issue is, if you need to get to either the current Freo harbour, or the proposed Kwinana harbour.
Also you have major light industrial areas to the North and East, these require truck routes to the port facilities.
Currently, if you want to travel from the North of Perth to the south, or visa versa, it really means travelling through the centre of the city.
Which is already a problem, it will be horrific in 5 years time.
Like I said, it doesn't matter who is in office, eventually it will have to be completed, demographic pressure will make it happen.
Labor just are looking stupid, trying to make political mileage out of it.IMO:xyxthumbs
 
sptrawler said:
That's true and why a seamless road will be required, to bypass it.
If you are arriving from the south, North or east there will be a need for a bypass road.
The big issue is, if you need to get to either the current Freo harbour, or the proposed Kwinana harbour.
Also you have major light industrial areas to the North and East, these require truck routes to the port facilities.
Currently, if you want to travel from the North of Perth to the south, or visa versa, it really means travelling through the centre of the city.
Which is already a problem, it will be horrific in 5 years time.
Like I said, it doesn't matter who is in office, eventually it will have to be completed, demographic pressure will make it happen.
Labor just are looking stupid, trying to make political mileage out of it.IMO:xyxthumbs
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The govt banned through trucks in Brisbane ages ago, but there is major sized twin "Gateway" bridges and the Logan Motorway the trucks are forced to use to ring the city.

Perth is relatively easy compared to Brisbane for road infrastructure, it's sandy, it's flat and not built up. Brisbane doesn't have limestone for cement, doesn't have much sand, has rugged terrain which is mostly shale, has a ramshackle planning history, large tracts of heavy vegetation, but it has way more major infrastructure than Perth and still boasts massive carparks that extend from the city to loganholme and beyond at days end.

Your Roe Hwy should be a freeway and you are right coming through the city from Mitchell Fwy to Kwinana does work, but it's not capable of handling real truck flows that will come eventually.
 
I don't think we should assume that Kerry O'Brien won't be back to the cosy sinecure of topping and tailing Four Corners.

Caroline Jones last hosted Four Corners in 1981, but is still introducing Australian Story in 2015.

The taxpayers are really getting their money's worth from the ABC.
 
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