A white perspective of Racism and White Privilege in the US

[Chronos-Plutus]

You'll have to spend a lot of time looking around London trying to find as many homeless people as you'll almost literally trip over should you walk the streets of San Francisco at night. That's not to say London doesn't have homelessness, but the US is shocking to say the least, it's a truly massive divide through society on the lines of wealth, race and their overall future prospects.

You don't have to go far to notice it, in many cases it changes dramatically within a few minutes and that's walking not driving.

Nobody cares about anybody buddy. Doesn't matter which country or city that you're from.

Even if you're extremely talented and gifted; doesn't mean ****, unless you sit in the shade of trees that other people have planted.

Not sure why you're bringing up homelessness!

 

[Smurf1976]

Not sure why you're bringing up homelessness!

Homelessness, racial discrimination, lack of opportunity and a future etc all ultimately contribute to the sense of hopelessness which many feel.

As with anything going badly wrong, there's almost always more than one cause. There's the trigger which is obvious but there's usually a lot more that was wrong behind the scenes beforehand.

I doubt that a single isolated incident would lead to widespread riots if not for underlying tensions that were already present. Same as a single component failure doesn't generally cause a structure to collapse and a single dud trade doesn't send someone broke. For that to happen, there were already serious problems.

 

[Macquack]

I know guys that would step on the neck to control. Never heard of a death.

You seem to know a lot of thugs. That they haven't murdered anyone yet is a good thing!

 

[moXJO]

You seem to know a lot of thugs. That they haven't murdered anyone yet is a good thing!

Oh I'm sorry I'm not hanging in the latte and the cardigan wearing, small poodle walking flogs circle.
I knew a lot of security, army, officers and I've been around the fight game for years. Haven't seen that happen and been in that position.
For an officer to do what he did, he would have had to really mean it.

The only other possible contributing factor that would do it is drugs/health.

So either he is really guilty or there's a major contributor. He can't use the accidental death defence.

 

[sptrawler]

Homelessness, racial discrimination, lack of opportunity and a future etc all ultimately contribute to the sense of hopelessness which many feel.

As with anything going badly wrong, there's almost always more than one cause. There's the trigger which is obvious but there's usually a lot more that was wrong behind the scenes beforehand.

I doubt that a single isolated incident would lead to widespread riots if not for underlying tensions that were already present. Same as a single component failure doesn't generally cause a structure to collapse and a single dud trade doesn't send someone broke. For that to happen, there were already serious problems.

Like I said in another thread, don't judge the U.S with an Australian experience bias, its a completely different beast.
You are spot on smurf.

 

[Knobby22]

Nobody cares about anybody buddy. Doesn't matter which country or city that you're from.

Even if you're extremely talented and gifted; doesn't mean ****, unless you sit in the shade of trees that other people have planted.

Not sure why you're bringing up homelessness!

Good to know who our ASF psychopath is.

 

[Knobby22]

Like I said in another thread, don't judge the U.S with an Australian experience bias, its a completely different beast.
You are spot on smurf.

Yes spot on.

 

[qldfrog]

True

Yes spot on.

I would also add that imho, and i think for any sensible person, based on all footages i saw, these are not race riot, but a far left uprising, masked white youths call them Intifada for better words breaking sensible and legitimate demonstration to create as much havoc as possible.
Add powerty and covid19 led new restrictions and unemployment and you leverage looting.
For years many have talked about the US political divide leading to civil war.we could just see the first shots there. So much more than race, actually not much race in that

 

[Knobby22]

True

I would also add that imho, and i think for any sensible person, based on all footages i saw, these are not race riot, but a far left uprising, masked white youths call them Intifada for better words breaking sensible and legitimate demonstration to create as much havoc as possible.
Add powerty and covid19 led new restrictions and unemployment and you leverage looting.
For years many have talked about the US political divide leading to civil war.we could just see the first shots there. So much more than race, actually not much race in that

You are believing the counter narrative with its own interests.
You can't deny the people have reasons to protest.
Their grievances are real and frankly something should be done about it.

 

[Humid]

40 000000 unemployed.......is a lot of spare time

 

[Humid]

You are believing the counter narrative with its own interests.
You can't deny the people have reasons to protest.
Their grievances are real and frankly something should be done about it.

The protesters paradigm

 

[moXJO]

You are believing the counter narrative with its own interests.
You can't deny the people have reasons to protest.
Their grievances are real and frankly something should be done about it.

Blacks online are complaining the protests have been hijacked by whites.

The thing is antifa and the right now want the same thing: accelerationism. Riots are the various right and left's militias wet dream.
They will be disappointed when all it leads to nothing.

 

[qldfrog]

You are believing the counter narrative with its own interests.
You can't deny the people have reasons to protest.
Their grievances are real and frankly something should be done about it.

I do believe anything but facts, you should try: uncomfortable but self satisfying
I repeat, the current riots are not done by the black community but by the left. whites
Two other points, fully agree with you:
Policing should be held accountable, for all, black white red green or yellow.
And at least /last something concrete done.

 

[Knobby22]

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The thing is antifa and the right now want the same thing: accelerationism. Riots are the various right and left's militias wet dream.
They will be disappointed when all it leads to nothing.

It will lead to nothing if the far right is allowed to set the agenda.

This is a wake up call for the USA.
If they don't wake up the next riot will be worse as polarisation will continue both left and right. The government after all is meant to serve the people.

The reason Democracy is successful is that it provides a circuit breaker but that means the people have to be listened to. They need a new deal not a President intent on talking to his base only.

 

[qldfrog]

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It will lead to nothing if the far right is allowed to set the agenda.

This is a wake up call for the USA.
If they don't wake up the next riot will be worse as polarisation will continue both left and right. The government after all is meant to serve the people.

The reason Democracy is successful is that it provides a circuit breaker but that means the people have to be listened to. They need a new deal not a President intent on talking to his base only.

And that means no trump no Bidden or Hilary, (Obama to a lesser extent)

 

[qldfrog]

And that means no trump no Bidden or Hilary, (Obama to a lesser extent)

I believe the US needs a new party, Trump replaced the old republicans, Sanders nearly replaced the old left, neither a good choice for the US but at the very least a move away from the "deep state".
No idea where the light will come from.Maybe in crisis, aka china conflict deep economic crisis, "heros' will arrive...
but always worried of a new"Hitler": National Socialism (Nazi) joined both what we see in the US: national for the right[US first, we are USA ] and socialism for the wall street hatred of the left we see now....
Forget about the caricature dictated by the winners post war, nazis were very successful politicians and managed to gather the people, eliminating not only Jews(wealth stealing) but oppositions from both sides and eliminating business opposition and created a world fist power out of ruins in a record time.
It could come up easily under a new name and flavor in crisis situation

 

[joeno]

Terrible thing is that the rioting happening now is actually white based, just the culmination of Trump hate by brain damaged left leading surely toward civil war..
China, so revered by @joeno and some of our own Australian servants to the CCP, is having the time of its life.

Despite me clearly saying i dont like a lot of their policies repeatedly, not sure why you'd rev up the "must be a CCP shill" strawman. it's old and tiring. Most governments are pretty crap and do bad or stupid things often. The Chinese exceptionalism is part of a wider anti-socialism agenda America has to distract people from their globalist imperialistic ambitions. The point being they're both ****. But America refuses to smell their own ****. And they lie more often and more flagrantly (i.e. force the whole world to it's true). When the Chinese govt or Russian govt lies everybody knows it is a lie.

Pointing out to clear double standards and hypocritical BS doesn't make me or anyone a "servant". Especially when it is a minority view.

 

[dutchie]

I believe the US needs a new party, Trump replaced the old republicans, Sanders nearly replaced the old left, neither a good choice for the US but at the very least a move away from the "deep state".
No idea where the light will come from.Maybe in crisis, aka china conflict deep economic crisis, "heros' will arrive...

Can't see it happening. There is so much money to be made in politics in the US by both sides.
It's a sh@thouse system for the average joe but the elites have so much power (and money) , which is growing, that they will be hard to budge.

 

[rederob]

I would also add that imho, and i think for any sensible person, based on all footages i saw, these are not race riot, but a far left uprising, masked white youths call them Intifada for better words breaking sensible and legitimate demonstration to create as much havoc as possible.

Your opinion, as usual, is at odds with what is occurring.

I repeat, the current riots are not done by the black community but by the left. whites

You have confused opportunistic looting with rioting, but who would be surprised!
That opportunism has also been supplanted by organised criminal activity under the cover of otherwise peaceful demonstrations. There is a lot of footage showing looters running into stores and running out to be greeted by cars that pull up and then take them away.
Your penchant for political "labels," rather than exercise of reason, renders your posts significantly baseless.

 

[wayneL]

May I humbly offer the suggestion that you are all looking in the wrong direction for a villain in all this. All of the issues here is just stuff on the margins which are quite easily solvable with the goodwill of all parties. We plebeians are merely reactive to the factors which affect us, according to our position in the hierarchy of things.

Even political parties and even administrations are largely reactive to greater factors.

The causative elephant in the room that nobody is even seeing is the role of Central banks, as has been so for centuries. Not just the Fed, all of them.

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