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The death of George Floyd by a policeman kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes went through many phases.
It's been recorded. So what happened ? It's confronting because of the sheer impunity shown by the police to slowly suffocate a bound suspect to death in public view.

The death of George Floyd was an act of murder, plain and simple
The Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible threatens our most basic sense of justice

Ben Crump and Jasmine Rand

Sat 30 May 2020 01.29 AEST Last modified on Sat 30 May 2020 02.23 AEST

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“Get off of his neck.” “Please! Please!” “I can’t breathe.” Police in America have far too many non-lethal ways to reliably kill black men without facing criminal charges. The weaponization of racism does not require a gun or a bullet. In this case, a police officer’s knee was the weapon used to kill George Floyd. The observing officers’ indifference was also a weapon used to kill Floyd, and the Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible is a weapon threatening to kill our most basic sense of justice.

Most law enforcement agencies classify weapons and use of physical force into two broad categories: “lethal” and “non-lethal”. Officers regularly convert “non-lethal” weapons and physical force into deadly force and hide behind the agency’s classification system to avoid criminal charges.

In reality, any weapon or any use of physical force can cause death when misused. Police batons kill people. Tasers kill people. Chokeholds kill people. Kneeling on someone’s neck for eight minutes kills people. You don’t need to attend the police academy to know that if you obstruct someone’s airway they will eventually stop breathing, and if you cannot breathe you will die.

Mike Freeman, the district attorney, is required by the laws of the state of Minnesota to charge the police officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck with first-degree murder. Similarly, the officers who watched their fellow officer do it, failed to intervene and stopped other citizens from trying to save Floyd’s life should also be charged.

The officers served as judge, jury and executioners of George Floyd

The officers served as judge, jury and executioners of George Floyd when they killed him in the street; and they should face life sentences for First-Degree Murder in a court of law. A first-degree murder charge in Minnesota requires that a person acts to “cause the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person”.

The video evidence clearly shows that the officers acted with the intent to kill and with premeditation. Floyd told the officers he could not breathe 12 times, including within the first few seconds of the video. Floyd said: “I’m about to die … they’re gonna kill me,” and called out for his mother. He lost consciousness, stopped breathing and his body went limp after four minutes. Forty seconds later witnesses told officers that Floyd was unresponsive. At least 16 times they asked the officers to take his pulse.

The officers even prevented a woman who identified herself as an EMT from trying to save his life. Two minutes and 20 seconds after Floyd lost consciousness, witnesses began to say: “They just killed him.” The officers all knew that Floyd was unconscious, was not breathing, that his body was limp, but an officer kept his knee pressed on his windpipe, making sure he did not breathe for another four minutes, despite witnesses’ relentless insistence that he was dying. If the witnesses knew he was dying, the officers knew he was dying. The officers knew that Floyd needed oxygen to live, but they never attempted CPR, never took his pulse and never tried to save his life.

Racism is the eye staring down the barrel of our justice system and threatening to pull the trigger. Recall that only after a mass protest movement did the officer who killed Eric Garner in a chokehold face any consequences.

Freeman cannot allow the Minneapolis police officers who killed Floyd to elude criminal charges under the weak, shameful excuse that the level of force used was “non-lethal”, or that the officers didn’t know that Floyd would die without oxygen. That argument is as dishonest as saying they didn’t know what happens to a fish out of water. We can all visualize that image: the fish out of water, its mouth open and gasping for air; and we all know the fish is going to die, just like the officers knew that Floyd was going to die.

We encourage people to call Mike Freeman at (612) 348-5550 and demand that the officers involved in killing George Floyd be charged with first-degree murder.

 

Indeed 3rd degree murder is the charge. The other police who stood watched and kept the public at bay have yet to be charged.

In the circumstances I think 3rd degree murder doesn't reflect on the length of time it took for George to die the repeated cries of "I can't breathe" and the repeated ignored pleas of bystanders to stop the process.

It was interesting to see how police can game the rules by using "non lethal" means to achieve a lethal outcome and get away with it.

Another view on the fallout from this killing.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-05...-time-us-race-relations-george-floyd/12303170
 
True, another example, the master race attitude also correlates with certain ideological beliefs.
Interesting , and where do you put Chinese Han here?
Not PC so not well discussed in the west but believe me, definitely a ubermenschen feeling there and we had a taste of the Japanese version in WWII
 
Interesting , and where do you put Chinese Han here?
Not PC so not well discussed in the west but believe me, definitely a ubermenschen feeling there and we had a taste of the Japanese version in WWII
The Chinese Han are a whole country with that attitude. Ruthless. Yes a lot like the Japanese pre WW2.
Off topic though.
And it's a dictatorship.
 
Statistically I'm sure minority cops were more likely to shoot blacks. From memory black cop on black was higher. Personally I think it's a law enforcement problem with a few bad eggs. Cops have to go through a lot of sht and it doesn't surprise me there are some damaged individuals as a result. I'd hate to be a cop in the US.
 
The death of George Floyd by a policeman kneeling on his neck for 9 minutes went through many phases.
It's been recorded. So what happened ? It's confronting because of the sheer impunity shown by the police to slowly suffocate a bound suspect to death in public view.

The death of George Floyd was an act of murder, plain and simple
The Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible threatens our most basic sense of justice

Ben Crump and Jasmine Rand

Sat 30 May 2020 01.29 AEST Last modified on Sat 30 May 2020 02.23 AEST

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“Get off of his neck.” “Please! Please!” “I can’t breathe.” Police in America have far too many non-lethal ways to reliably kill black men without facing criminal charges. The weaponization of racism does not require a gun or a bullet. In this case, a police officer’s knee was the weapon used to kill George Floyd. The observing officers’ indifference was also a weapon used to kill Floyd, and the Minneapolis police department’s failure to arrest the officers responsible is a weapon threatening to kill our most basic sense of justice.

Most law enforcement agencies classify weapons and use of physical force into two broad categories: “lethal” and “non-lethal”. Officers regularly convert “non-lethal” weapons and physical force into deadly force and hide behind the agency’s classification system to avoid criminal charges.

In reality, any weapon or any use of physical force can cause death when misused. Police batons kill people. Tasers kill people. Chokeholds kill people. Kneeling on someone’s neck for eight minutes kills people. You don’t need to attend the police academy to know that if you obstruct someone’s airway they will eventually stop breathing, and if you cannot breathe you will die.

Mike Freeman, the district attorney, is required by the laws of the state of Minnesota to charge the police officer who kneeled on Floyd’s neck with first-degree murder. Similarly, the officers who watched their fellow officer do it, failed to intervene and stopped other citizens from trying to save Floyd’s life should also be charged.

The officers served as judge, jury and executioners of George Floyd

The officers served as judge, jury and executioners of George Floyd when they killed him in the street; and they should face life sentences for First-Degree Murder in a court of law. A first-degree murder charge in Minnesota requires that a person acts to “cause the death of a human being with premeditation and with intent to effect the death of the person”.

The video evidence clearly shows that the officers acted with the intent to kill and with premeditation. Floyd told the officers he could not breathe 12 times, including within the first few seconds of the video. Floyd said: “I’m about to die … they’re gonna kill me,” and called out for his mother. He lost consciousness, stopped breathing and his body went limp after four minutes. Forty seconds later witnesses told officers that Floyd was unresponsive. At least 16 times they asked the officers to take his pulse.

The officers even prevented a woman who identified herself as an EMT from trying to save his life. Two minutes and 20 seconds after Floyd lost consciousness, witnesses began to say: “They just killed him.” The officers all knew that Floyd was unconscious, was not breathing, that his body was limp, but an officer kept his knee pressed on his windpipe, making sure he did not breathe for another four minutes, despite witnesses’ relentless insistence that he was dying. If the witnesses knew he was dying, the officers knew he was dying. The officers knew that Floyd needed oxygen to live, but they never attempted CPR, never took his pulse and never tried to save his life.

Racism is the eye staring down the barrel of our justice system and threatening to pull the trigger. Recall that only after a mass protest movement did the officer who killed Eric Garner in a chokehold face any consequences.

Freeman cannot allow the Minneapolis police officers who killed Floyd to elude criminal charges under the weak, shameful excuse that the level of force used was “non-lethal”, or that the officers didn’t know that Floyd would die without oxygen. That argument is as dishonest as saying they didn’t know what happens to a fish out of water. We can all visualize that image: the fish out of water, its mouth open and gasping for air; and we all know the fish is going to die, just like the officers knew that Floyd was going to die.

We encourage people to call Mike Freeman at (612) 348-5550 and demand that the officers involved in killing George Floyd be charged with first-degree murder.

Should never have happened over a counterfeit $20.
 
they also said that doing a forced little aboriginal acknowledgement speech in front of every get together was becoming counterproductive - I heartily agree with this.
It's become one of those things that's so routine as to have completely lost its intended purpose.

It's up there with the "written, spoken and authorised by......" after political advertisements or the "warning some scenes may offend some viewers" before documentaries on certain subjects. It's being said as a legal compliance thing and nothing more.

As someone who is white and male, I consider myself as neither superior nor inferior to someone who is black and/or female. Always amazes me how many struggle with that concept. :2twocents
 
The Chinese Han are a whole country with that attitude. Ruthless. Yes a lot like the Japanese pre WW2.
Off topic though.
And it's a dictatorship.

is it too much to ask for evidence? or are you going to come with "aww well you know..." type response.

the evidence is very much apparent for American supremacism from the current (only) line of government. A policy of double standards that is as clear as day with the hk and minneapolis riots. A history of repeated operations of destabilising foreign nations and regime change. Racist policies evident in slavery and Japanese internment and Chinese exclusion act. Repeated interfering in international affairs outside their own shores.
 
Interesting , and where do you put Chinese Han here?
Not PC so not well discussed in the west but believe me, definitely a ubermenschen feeling there and we had a taste of the Japanese version in WWII
Actually a better comparison is Nazi Germany. I can't see any difference.
 
is it too much to ask for evidence? or are you going to come with "aww well you know..." type response.

the evidence is very much apparent for American supremacism from the current (only) line of government. A policy of double standards that is as clear as day with the hk and minneapolis riots. A history of repeated operations of destabilising foreign nations and regime change. Racist policies evident in slavery and Japanese internment and Chinese exclusion act. Repeated interfering in international affairs outside their own shores.
Yes, so how does that mean my statement was wrong?
China is a right wing dictatorship. Maybe you can tell me why I am wrong.

I'm not defending the USA.
 
Terrible thing is that the rioting happening now is actually white based, just the culmination of Trump hate by brain damaged left leading surely toward civil war..
China, so revered by @joeno and some of our own Australian servants to the CCP, is having the time of its life.
 
Just off topic for a second, yesterday I heard Tom Switzers very interesting interview on ABC National with two right wing aboriginal leaders (one a very senior female WA figure) who stated that their culture of victimhood is stopping their improvement and that some people in their community love to foster this and make money out of it.

They also said that we need another model and giving the communities welfare is a disaster as it is soul destroying, they need purpose. Great interview, worth a listen everyone. . they also said that doing a forced little aboriginal acknowledgement speech in front of every get together was becoming counterproductive - I heartily agree with this.

Libs, give these guys the aboriginal ministry

I know this doesn't relate to the USA situation but not sure where to put it.
Victimhood gives people a reason to whine and do nothing. As soon as you can put the blame on someone else, you literally get stuck in position. The other thing it does is breed hate.
Not taking responsibility for yourself and your people breeds a whole heap of weak degenerates.
 
I disagree regarding the rioting. It's just a reaction from hopelessness. They know their lives don't count.

The right nuts know they do have power. They have used the unrest to attack the CNN building and kill a few protesters.
 
I disagree regarding the rioting. It's just a reaction from hopelessness. They know their lives don't count.

The right nuts know they do have power. They have used the unrest to attack the CNN building and kill a few protesters.
please look at footages, these are white demonstrations, just watched some this morning from the french socialist TV state network, no fox news, very few blacks..basically an anti trump riot found a pretext.
Of course, in the black suburbs, looting etc by some opportunistic thugs..no surprise, and regardless of skin colour ..not race riot, civil war tentative more like it
 
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