A white perspective of Racism and White Privilege in the US

[basilio]

Powerful: Protesters Spell Out 'Love' With Burning Homes And Businesses

https://babylonbee.com/news/powerful-protesters-spell-out-love-with-burning-homes-and-businesses

Note to: rederob and Knobby22
I understand you don't have a good grasp of humour so I'm just letting you know that
the above is a joke and I do not claim that this actually happened.

Indeed it is a joke Dutchie. We can see that..It's about on par with "Jews in the oven jokes " pictures of smiling "niggers" eating watermelons (cause those folks all looove watermelon...!) and a score of other nasty, hateful tropes.

If that is what you think is "funny" we take on board your particular tastes.

 

[basilio]

The looting and violence is beyond xhite. That doesn't change one little bit the raw anger of millions of people who saw a slow live public killing of a handcuffed black guy by a police officer who pulled him up for passing a dodgy $20 bill.

It doesn't change one little bit a President who uses the the police to tear gas a peaceful protest away at a church to make the most monumentally hypocritical sermon on Justice in the name of Christ ever achieved.

It doesn't change a US society where tens of millions of ardent Trumpists and associated White Supremacists with armories of assault rifles are in the wings waiting to "take back" their country.

It doesn't change a US that is still raging with COVID 19 and will almost certainly have another explosion of cases as various States open us and the probable contagion from these rallies takes hold.

So on a practical note this might be a good time to reconsider ones weighting in US securities/ stocks. They may also burn in the conflagration.

 

[moXJO]

"niggers"

Don't use that word, honkey.
Even in reference. Reread your "How to be PC" manual.

 

[moXJO]

The looting and violence is beyond xhite. That doesn't change one little bit the raw anger of millions of people who saw a slow live public killing of a handcuffed black guy by a police officer who pulled him up for passing a dodgy $20 bill.

It doesn't change one little bit a President who uses the the police to tear gas a peaceful protest away at a church to make the most monumentally hypocritical sermon on Justice in the name of Christ ever achieved.

It doesn't change a US society where tens of millions of ardent Trumpists and associated White Supremacists with armories of assault rifles are in the wings waiting to "take back" their country.

It doesn't change a US that is still raging with COVID 19 and will almost certainly have another explosion of cases as various States open us and the probable contagion from these rallies takes hold.

So on a practical note this might be a good time to reconsider ones weighting in US securities/ stocks. They may also burn in the conflagration.

This is what change looks like. You think a Biden,Bush, Obama or Hillary are going to get fundamental structural changes?
It's just more of the same. It takes a scumbag like Trump to incite enough rage to make huge leaps. Still don't think the US is there yet.

Trump needs to burn it down. Wether through idiocy or action. I can't see him wining November. A shame as I was enjoying watching him destroy entrenched systems.

 

[dutchie]

Indeed it is a joke Dutchie. We can see that..It's about on par with "Jews in the oven jokes " pictures of smiling "niggers" eating watermelons (cause those folks all looove watermelon...!) and a score of other nasty, hateful tropes.

If that is what you think is "funny" we take on board your particular tastes.

Excellent virtue signalling there basilio.

For your records, I think this is funny too.

 

[wayneL]

Indeed it is a joke Dutchie. We can see that..It's about on par with "Jews in the oven jokes " pictures of smiling "niggers" eating watermelons (cause those folks all looove watermelon...!) and a score of other nasty, hateful tropes.

If that is what you think is "funny" we take on board your particular tastes.

Bolsheviks never do understand irony.

What isn't funny is that these imbeciles are hurting the wrong people, people who are equally horrified, often their own people struggling to make a life.

What is funny is that even virtue signalling corporates haven't been immune from the looting heathen.

Peaceful demonstration is intrinsic to our liberal society and notion of free speech, rioting, violence and looting is not, it is criminal.

 

[SirRumpole]

Peaceful demonstration is intrinsic to our liberal society and notion of free speech, rioting, violence and looting is not, it is criminal.

Indeed so, but some people often lump the two groups into one in order to villify them both don't you think ?

 

[sptrawler]

Indeed so, but some people often lump the two groups into one in order to villify them both don't you think ?

I think a lot of it is, people just love an opportunity to behave badly, mob rule has been around since Adam was a boy.

 

[moXJO]

The protest got hijacked.
Media is trying to say it's ok to loot because of the built up rage.
No it's fking not.
George's family called for restraint as did a lot from blm.

We are reaching out to family and friends to share our parents’ story.

On May 29th, after months of being shut down due to COVID-19, Englewood Beauty Supply was getting ready to finally reopen and serve its community in the South Side of Chicago. Our father had spent hours with his employees preparing the store in order to ensure the safety of his employees and customers, and despite his own health issues which put him at high risk, he decided that it was important to open up his store to support not only his livelihood but his employees’ livelihoods as well.

On May 30th, all of that effort, and the efforts of a lifetime were destroyed by looting, while our dad helplessly watched for hours from the security footage on his phone.

Our father opened his small business in Chicago’s South Side 30 years ago after immigrating from Korea to America with absolutely nothing. Englewood Beauty Supply was more than a business, and over the decades it became a fixture in the neighborhood, with relationships built with community members. Our father had worked tirelessly and relentlessly without taking days off, working almost 365 days of the year so that he could support our family without complaint and serve as the best example to his children of positivity and the value of hard work.

This is not the first setback that our parents have faced. In 2007, when our home was destroyed by lightning, the store was a source of hope, a way to rebuild, and start again. Our father’s same positivity, strength, and heart that he put into his store helped us rebuild our home over the years. It breaks our hearts to see how defeated they are this time, and we would like to give them hope as they rebuild again.

The world is hurting and we understand that this was a result of the hurt and the need for change. We empathize with the outrage that has come from the lack of change and unjust treatment of the black community, and we stand by our community and those who are suffering. We also know that our parents are hurting, and it will be a long road of recovery and healing. Unlike large businesses, our small business insurance does not cover the entire cost of damages and stolen goods. We are humbly asking for support in rebuilding our parents’ business and thank you from the bottom of our hearts.

Sincerely,
Bradford and Grace Chong


Edit/Update**


This morning at 6:30am (Wednesday, June 3rd), we received a call from a neighboring business that our building was on fire. Our father headed over to see the damage, and it was devastating. We are at a loss of words and unsure how to move forward. We are asking for support during this time as the costs for repair are unimaginable and devastating. Our father's livelihood and everything that he has worked for as an immigrant for the past 30 years has been stripped away from him. We ask for any support possible and prayers as we try to recover.

Before Fire:

After Fire:

Plenty of lives being affected from hateful little shtbags that turned this into a political theatre.

 

[wayneL]

I think a lot of it is, people just love an opportunity to behave badly, mob rule has been around since Adam was a boy.

As we are seeing now in London, the copycat thugs are kicking off attacking No 10, because?????

Well, it *is because the radical leftists in the Labour Party have been fomenting violence for quite some time now.

 

[sptrawler]

As we are seeing now in London, the copycat thugs are kicking off attacking No 10, because?????

Well, it *is because the radical leftists in the Labour Party have been fomenting violence for quite some time now.

I don't think the hard working majority in the U.S or U.K will agree with this sort of behaviour, they know one way or another it is them who pay for it, either by higher taxes, higher prices or a combination of both.
I think it will just cause a ground swell of anger, from the silent majority.
Just my opinion.

 

[chiff]

I don't know if these radical people belong to any political party ,but when they get the chance anarchists and vandals like a bit of action.

 

[qldfrog]

FWIW, France is quite "ahead" in term of being a neo socialist society, full of the worst socialist concepts;
Based on my previous experiences there, scenes of massive demonstrations and rioting looting usually end up with a very strong conservative move at the polls.
May 68 so veneered there by the left wings ended up with emergency elections and a very conservative government..to the astounded left wing intelligentsia ..
But ? But?

 

[basilio]

The protest got hijacked.
Media is trying to say it's ok to loot because of the built up rage.
No it's fking not.
George's family called for restraint as did a lot from blm.

Lets straighten a few things up.
Yes Georges family as well as other prominent activists (Killer Mike ) called for peaceful demonstrations. There is no value in trashing their own communities.

Which media have tried to say it was ok to trash and loot ? Be really interested to see evidence for that assertion.

Yes the protests have been hijacked. Would it surprise anyone to find that White Supremacists groups have decided to stir things up and basically help turn the protests into a xshitstorm they can then attack ?

Three accused of conspiring to spark violence during protests in Las Vegas
Three Nevada men with ties to right-wing extremists have been arrested and charged with attempting to incite violence during protests in Las Vegas over the death of George Floyd.

The Associated Press reported that the men face a host of federal and state charges after being arrested on the way to a protest in downtown Las Vegas with Molotov cocktails and unregistered firearms. The men reportedly planned to instigate a riot by causing destruction at a peaceful protest in the city.

“People have a right to peacefully protest. These men are agitators and instigators. Their point was to hijack the protests into violence,” U.S. Attorney Nicholas Trutanich told the AP.

The men are reportedly charged with terrorism, felony conspiracy and explosive possession charges in state court, and also face unregistered firearm charges as well as charges of conspiracy to cause damage by fire or explosive in federal court.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ring-to-spark-violence-during-protests-in-las
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2020/05/31/officials-see-extremist-groups-disinformation-in-protests/

 

[sptrawler]

Lets straighten a few things up.
Yes Georges family as well as other prominent activists (Killer Mike ) called for peaceful demonstrations. There is no value in trashing their own communities.

Which media have tried to say it was ok to trash and loot ? Be really interested to see evidence for that assertion.

Yes the protests have been hijacked. Would it surprise anyone to find that White Supremacists groups have decided to stir things up and basically help turn the protests into a xshitstorm they can then attack ?

Three accused of conspiring to spark violence during protests in Las Vegas
Three Nevada men with ties to right-wing extremists have been arrested and charged with attempting to incite violence during protests in Las Vegas over the death of George Floyd.

The Associated Press reported that the men face a host of federal and state charges after being arrested on the way to a protest in downtown Las Vegas with Molotov cocktails and unregistered firearms. The men reportedly planned to instigate a riot by causing destruction at a peaceful protest in the city.

“People have a right to peacefully protest. These men are agitators and instigators. Their point was to hijack the protests into violence,” U.S. Attorney Nicholas Trutanich told the AP.

The men are reportedly charged with terrorism, felony conspiracy and explosive possession charges in state court, and also face unregistered firearm charges as well as charges of conspiracy to cause damage by fire or explosive in federal court.
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...ring-to-spark-violence-during-protests-in-las
https://www.snopes.com/ap/2020/05/31/officials-see-extremist-groups-disinformation-in-protests/

Bas you like bagging the coalition here and in the UK, Im not sure where Trump sits because I dont follow US politics, but I really think you have to take a deep breath and really ask yourself how can we make it better and how we pay for it.
Just a thought.
I suggested a film for those who connected with the recent riots.
For you I would suggest watching 'Kursk', it may give you a perspective on what is important, rather than a belief .
Just my opinion, but the very thing that makes us the amazing country we are, is the very same thing that is going to destroy it.

 

[Smurf1976]

Peaceful demonstration is intrinsic to our liberal society and notion of free speech, rioting, violence and looting is not, it is criminal.

Indeed it is very fundamental.

A problem with all this "race" stuff though is that healing just isn't allowed with the issue brought up at every possible opportunity that black and white is not equal. Same goes for gender, if there's an opportunity to create division and throw stones well there are many who are sure not to let it pass by unused. So long as that continues, I can only assume someone's gaining from the conflict either politically or financially.

Black, white, male, female - dump the lot and just replace the word with "human" and then the ridiculousness of the sentence shows rather a lot of things for the racism and sexism the really are despite claiming to be the opposite.

If the aim is peace then we need to move on. You don't fix a marriage by constantly bringing up the affair that someone had 20 years ago. You don't fix relations between employer and employees by constantly bringing up the now resolved dispute over pay and conditions. You don't fix racism and sexism by constantly finding new problems. And so on.

If the aim is peace, you fix the current issues, move on and leave the past behind.

 

[qldfrog]

If the aim is peace, you fix the current issues, move on and leave the past behind.

I believe the "left" in the absence of a better word has long ago dismissed pretending aiming for peace.
Long gone is Martin Luther King dream.

 

[Knobby22]

I believe the "left" in the absence of a better word has long ago dismissed pretending aiming for peace.
Long gone is Martin Luther King dream.

There are millions of people demonstrating peaceably.

 

[basilio]

Excellent virtue signalling there basilio.

For your records, I think this is funny too.

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Nah Dutchie. Just calling out hateful tropes.
Just like the ones you seem to enjoy ..

 

[basilio]

The smashing of the peaceful demonstration with tear gas in Lafayette Square to enable Trump to give his Sermon on the Mount outside St Johns Church has resulted in a law suit against Trump , Barr and other administration officials for violation of 1st and 4th amendments riots.

An interesting aside on the official denials that the police didn't use tear gar but instead pepper spray.
This is effectively the same difference as "Terminating with extreme prejudice" and killing or Terminological inexactitude and lie.

Associated Press put out an explainer on "tear gas"

An Army research institute paper in 2009 cites riot-control agents and tear gas interchangeably. It says tear gas is something of a misnomer, because the agents tend not to be gaseous and modern compounds can affect a wider variety of organs as well as the eyes, lungs and digestive tract that are historically the targets of tear gas.

Dr. Sven-Eric Jordt researches tear gas agents and chemical exposure injuries in his lab at the Duke University School of Medicine’s Integrated Toxicology and Environmental Health Program.

He said newer compounds, which may have been used in the “pepper ball” projectiles deployed at the protest, might or might not fit a traditional definition of tear gas but are as potent and come with scant research on their safety. Any difference is semantic, he said.

“There’s been very little research on tear gas being done in the United States,” he said, and “no research backing up the use levels that are deployed now.”
https://apnews.com/ccacf738fb1875bbb990b464e51b4e0f

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...es-matter-lawsuit-police-tear-gas-white-house




Jordt said the two main categories of crowd-clearing irritants — known as CS and OC — both activate the pain-sensing nervous system sharply, which in turn can make the body more susceptible to a virus. “I’m just very concerned this might increase the likelihood of infection” in the coronavirus pandemic, he said, or trigger more extreme reactions in people who have the virus but are not showing symptoms.



“To use these highly irritating agents on protesters is not a good idea,” he said. “It’s really shocking that it is used to that extent.”