2010 Federal Election

[noco]

Latest Courier Mail poll 10.13 pm

http://www.couriermail.com.au/cs/Sa...ndation/News_Poll/saveResult&site=CourierMail

 

[Macquack]

So_Cinical, I'm afraid you are very much alone tonight. Sleep well and wake in the morning to reality. Julia lost the debate without a doubt.

Noco, see if you can repeat the above after election night.

Giving credit where credit is due, Abbott (the underdog) performed up to his best and just matched it with Gillard for the first time.

Noticeable absent from Abbott's performance were the usual "ums' and "ahs" and that ridiculous laugh.

 

[GumbyLearner]

I-pac 648 on Sky News.

cheers noco. got it.

http://www.a-pac.tv/

 

[noco]

Noco, see if you can repeat the above after election night.

Giving credit where credit is due, Abbott (the underdog) performed up to his best and just matched it with Gillard for the first time.

Noticeable absent from Abbott's performance were the usual "ums' and "ahs" and that ridiculous laugh.

Macquack, after viewing the opinion polls this morning, Abbott would no doubt take some heart.
Kevin Rudd and the new mining advertising against the Government RRT may also have an impact on Gillard.
Gillard has made some fatal errors since the assassination of Kevin Rudd, which shows what am amateur she really is at politics. The next 4 weeks will tell.

 

[Calliope]

Yes, Abbott is finally getting his act together, whereas Gillard is bogged down in Labor-speak and role playing. She has nowhere to go but backwards.

Apparently women still prefer her to Abbott, whose biggest drawback according to the elitists is that he is a Christian. On the other hand Gillard is favored even though she models herself on the adulterer Bob Hawke and she has been the femme fatale in marriage breakups herself.

 

[explod]

Most everyone is arguing for themselves on this thread and over 60% of contributers on it by the poll above vote Liberal anyway.

There are the good the bad and the ugly on all sides but a skewed discussion is a bit of a waste.

The polling on the debate was very much skewed by the media straight after, particularly Oaks who detests anything Labor and was a Howard Fellow.

The full polling in another week will tell the bigger story, bye till then.

cheers explod

 

[wayneL]

I consider myself very objective...

I think any person who considers them self a socialist democrat (AKA Labor Party supporter) cannot by definition be objective. Social democracy flies in the face of human nature itself; it has never worked successfully as a system, ever, without the the influence of the capitalistic spirit to prop it up.

One need only look to any purportedly successful socialist state to see that it is the profit motive at the root of its success, AKA capitalism. Social democracy has always spoilt the work of the producers by elevating the non-producers. Social democracy has only ever placated the producers via political spin, warts and all "no-frills" analysis will always see socialist ideology on the outer

By any objective measure, this is counter-productive, ergo for social democrats, objectivity must be supplanted by ideology.

 

[explod]

I think any person who considers them self a socialist democrat (AKA Labor Party supporter) cannot by definition be objective. Social democracy flies in the face of human nature itself; it has never worked successfully as a system, ever, without the the influence of the capitalistic spirit to prop it up

Rubbish, Sweeden which I have been to is a perfect example of very good Government and the Krona I think is about the strongest backed currency as well.

All sides of Government are only as good as the honesty of the parliamentarians and the power of the lobby groups.

Have another think Waynel

 

[Calliope]

Most everyone is arguing for themselves on this thread and over 60% of contributers on it by the poll above vote Liberal anyway.

I think that most of the voters above had low expectations that the Coalition could win. They now see a glimmer of hope.

The reason for the 60% is that most ASF contributors are capable of thinking for themselves and are not hidebound by indoctrinated dogma.

 

[wayneL]

Rubbish, Sweeden which I have been to is a perfect example of very good Government and the Krona I think is about the strongest backed currency as well.

All sides of Government are only as good as the honesty of the parliamentarians and the power of the lobby groups.

Have another think Waynel

ROTFLMAO.

I just knew somebody would bring up Sweden. Actually It's an excellent example of my point, it's you who should have another think explod.

 

[explod]

ROTFLMAO.

I just knew somebody would bring up Sweden. Actually It's an excellent example of my point, it's you who should have another think explod.

A little bit more info on that champ.

The reason for the 60% is that most ASF contributors are capable of thinking for themselves and are not hidebound by indoctrinated dogma.

Think for themselves ! a bit elitist there Calliope, maybe you could also enlighten on the content of the superiority

 

[wayneL]

A little bit more info on that champ.

DYOR Chief.

 

[Calliope]

Think for themselves ! a bit elitist there Calliope, maybe you could also enlighten on the content of the superiority

I can see why you are confused. You don't know what an elitist is. They are people, generally on your side of politics, who claim to know better than we do, what is good for us. Your idol, Bob Brown is one.

 

[explod]

I can see why you are confused. You don't know what an elitist is. They are people, generally on your side of politics, who claim to know better than we do, what is good for us. Your idol, Bob Brown is one.

Just like litle johnny, blair and bush on Iraq, Saddam kept em all in check bit now the terrorists are running the show. Iran, Pakistan and the entire iddle East is a time Bomb. Of course Saddam was okay whilst trading with the US, he made the mistake of selling oil out the back door.

spare me pal

 

[BrightGreenGlow]

I'm guessing xplod was over-the-moon when he received his stimulus money. What did you spend it on? Also, I wonder what Gillard's rear end smells like???

 

[wayneL]

Just like litle johnny, blair and bush on Iraq, Saddam kept em all in check bit now the terrorists are running the show. Iran, Pakistan and the entire iddle East is a time Bomb. Of course Saddam was okay whilst trading with the US, he made the mistake of selling oil out the back door.

spare me pal

Blair is one of yours.

 

[explod]

I'm guessing xplod was over-the-moon when he received his stimulus money. What did you spend it on? Also, I wonder what Gillard's rear end smells like???

What has any of that to do with the price of eggs? Intelligence? Deeeeeeeeeeeer

On a lighter note, ya need to keep away from my dunny sometimes.

 

[explod]

Blair is one of yours.

Yep, sure that Bob Brown would agree with Tony Blair

 

[Julia]

Lord, fellas, couldn't we have this discussion without the personal stuff and the schoolboy lavatory 'humour'?

Wayne, I know almost nothing about Sweden. If you could give us a synopsis of their situation, I'd much appreciate it.

 

[Timmy]

Wayne, I know almost nothing about Sweden. If you could give us a synopsis of their situation, I'd much appreciate it.

Thats a good ikea. ... sorry