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Darc Knight said:
That story of Mo's is bad. There is no "look" of a Pedo.
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It blew out on social media real quick as well. People (concerned housewives) were ready to string him up. He did have a look about him though, poor guy. The fact was he was just lonely and socially outcast, over the way he looked.

Funnily enough the people I mentioned would have "stop racism", "accept people for who they are" memes up on their fb. I'm not sure if we as a nation are that self absorbed and shallow. That we can only preach about and not actually do.
 
sptrawler said:
How many of the #me too, accusations are going to court? Yet the recipient of a mention, cops a whole lot of misery, both financial and social.
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There are defamation laws as well as shown by the Geoffery Rush case, but these may be different in the US.
 
I wonder how many female pedos there are out there.

A few female teachers have been jailed for having it off with under age students, both male and female, so maybe there is an underlying problem with them too.
 
SirRumpole said:
There are defamation laws as well as shown by the Geoffery Rush case, but these may be different in the US.
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They are for the rich. Most lawyers will tell you its a money pit.
My cousin sued the daily tele and won. Lawyers took the lot. Its a lot of risk and your name gets dragged through the mud.
 
SirRumpole said:
I wonder how many female pedos there are out there.

A few female teachers have been jailed for having it off with under age students, both male and female, so maybe there is an underlying problem with them too.
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I wonder how many young males, would report it.
 
moXJO said:
They are for the rich. Most lawyers will tell you its a money pit.
My cousin sued the daily tele and won. Lawyers took the lot. Its a lot of risk and your name gets dragged through the mud.
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In Aus it isn't a money pit, unless you have money. Otherwise it is legal aid.
 
moXJO said:
My cousin wasn't exactly well off but she couldn't get legal aid.
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Yes, but the only ones who pursue litigation are those who can afford it, or those who aren't paying for it.
The plebs in the middle get creamed, as usual, but that's o.k that's normal in Aus. lol
The rich win and Joe average pays.
The poor win and Joe average pays.
If like your cousin, the lawyer pays, they take the money.
 
This womans testimony about the behaviour of Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and other boys at house parties is far more damning than either of the previous people.

Third woman accuses US Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct

... In her statement, Ms Swetnick said she attended more than 10 house parties in the Washington area from 1981 to 1983 where Mr Kavanaugh was present. She described gang rapes that she said occurred in which boys would line up to rape incapacitated girls.

"In approximately 1982, I became the victim of one of these 'gang' or 'train' rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present," she said, mentioning the name of a close friend of Mr Kavanaugh. She did not identify her attackers.

"During the incident, I was incapacitated without my consent and unable to fight off the boys raping me. I believe I was drugged using Quaaludes (a sedative) or something similar placed in what I was drinking," she said.

Ms Swetnick said Mr Kavanaugh was present but did not accuse him of taking part.

She also said she witnessed efforts by Mr Kavanaugh and others "to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be 'gang-raped' in a side room or a bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys," adding that she remembers boys including Mr Kavanaugh getting in lines to take part in these rapes.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-...brett-kavanaugh-of-sexual-misconduct/10309314
 
SirRumpole said:
I wonder how many female pedos there are out there.

A few female teachers have been jailed for having it off with under age students, both male and female, so maybe there is an underlying problem with them too.
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Well form my point of view I was very thankful for the young female teachers at my high school for including me in their weekend parties. ;)
 
basilio said:
This womans testimony about the behaviour of Brett Kavanaugh, Mark Judge and other boys at house parties is far more damning than either of the previous people.

Third woman accuses US Supreme Court Nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual misconduct

... In her statement, Ms Swetnick said she attended more than 10 house parties in the Washington area from 1981 to 1983 where Mr Kavanaugh was present. She described gang rapes that she said occurred in which boys would line up to rape incapacitated girls.

"In approximately 1982, I became the victim of one of these 'gang' or 'train' rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present," she said, mentioning the name of a close friend of Mr Kavanaugh. She did not identify her attackers.

"During the incident, I was incapacitated without my consent and unable to fight off the boys raping me. I believe I was drugged using Quaaludes (a sedative) or something similar placed in what I was drinking," she said.

Ms Swetnick said Mr Kavanaugh was present but did not accuse him of taking part.

She also said she witnessed efforts by Mr Kavanaugh and others "to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could then be 'gang-raped' in a side room or a bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys," adding that she remembers boys including Mr Kavanaugh getting in lines to take part in these rapes.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-...brett-kavanaugh-of-sexual-misconduct/10309314
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She went to 10 house parties knowing. on balance of probabilities, she would be mickey finned by gang bangers? Come on, tell another one!
 
To clarify some timelines on the ages of the Kavanaugh, Ms Swetnick and Ms Ford.

Julie Swetnick says the drunken house parties and gang rapes happened between 1981-83. She would have been 19-21 years of age then. She is 55 years old now

Brett Kavanaugh would have been 17-19 years old

Ms Ford is 4 years younger. She would have been 15-17 years old.
 
Darc Knight said:
That story of Mo's is bad. There is no "look" of a Pedo. Look at the convicted sexual predators on the News.

Had to google who that Deborah Copaken of Bas's post is. Nothing to do with Brett Kavangh. Kudos to Bas for shining a light on something which may become an injustice if swept under the rug, BUT the last thing our Society or the Internet needs right now is another Lisa Wilkinson.
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If you go back to the original post and the article you will see that Deborah lived in the same neighbourhood and time as Brett Kavanaugh. She discussed the culture of house parties, heavy drinking and abuse that happened as a young student.

She did take the story in another direction when she said that she had been raped by a drunken guy the night before her graduation. She went through the process of why she decided not to make a report and then attempted to "forget" what happened.

The "forgetting" proved very, very difficult. The final connection to the current situation was that Christine Fords accusation prompted her to write to the guy who raped her and spell out the effects that night have had on her.

Her email, his response and how she felt afterwards are very moving. Well worth a read.

By the way Deboroh has assured the guy she will never reveal his name and has made every attempt to remove any identification.
 
basilio said:
She discussed the culture of house parties, heavy drinking and abuse that happened as a young student.
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"She" was part of the culture though wasn't she ?

If she and others knew what was going on and still went to those parties, then how much responsibility should they take ?

It's not as if this person was accosted in the street by strangers.
 
SirRumpole said:
"She" was part of the culture though wasn't she ?

If she and others knew what was going on and still went to those parties, then how much responsibility should they take ?

It's not as if this person was accosted in the street by strangers.
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Did you read any of the background stories I posted previously? The only way a girl could not be part of this group would be to reject it entirely. Does that seem reasonable?
And by the way Rumpy the overwhelmingly majority of sexual assaults are committed by people known to victim.
It's true a lot of really nasty, dumb xhit happens in teenage years. The issues here are:

1) If Brett Kavanaugh was part of such behaviour how does this impact on his nomination as Supreme Court judge?
2) If he was part of such behaviour but chooses to lie about it now how does that impact on his nomination for Supreme Court judge ?
3) If there is credible evidence that he was part of systemic drug and rape group in college (a far more serious allegation) should he be charged and tried ?
 

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