Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[Tisme]

LOL

 

[basilio]

There was a brilliant article in The Guardian which asked/analysed the question of why all the past Presidents and Melania Trump were such happy little larks at Barbara Bushs' funeral.

Worth a read.


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Why are the Bushes, Clintons, Obamas and Melania smiling so broadly at a funeral?
The warmth between them is the camaraderie you often see between rivals now bonded by experience. And the absence of Donald Trump can only have added to the relaxed air of the picture

Jonathan Freedland

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Mon 23 Apr 2018 04.16 EDT Last modified on Mon 23 Apr 2018 17.00 EDT

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The Bush family with the Clintons, Obamas and Melania Trump at Barbara Bush’s funeral. Photograph: Paul Morse/AP
Consider him the elephant not in the room, simultaneously absent from this picture and looming over it.

Donald Trump did not attend Saturday’s funeral of Barbara Bush in Houston, Texas. Reporters were told that was because Trump generously wanted to spare the mourning Bush family the “disruptions due to added security” that would have come with his presidential presence. But that same White House statement may well have given the game away when it added that Trump did not attend “out of respect for the Bush family and friends attending the service”. Normally, the way you pay your respects to a grieving family is to show up, not stay away. Unless, of course, you know that the bereaved family in question hates your guts – in which case the greatest courtesy you can pay them in their hour of distress is to leave them alone.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...s-and-melania-smiling-so-broadly-at-a-funeral

 

[bellenuit]

Whose arm is around Hillary? Bush's or her husband's?

 

[basilio]

Whose arm is around Hillary? Bush's or her husband's?

George Bush... Reflects the overall story doesn't it ?

 

[basilio]

Nice observation regarding Melania Trumps radiance at the funeral get together of past presidents..

"Which leaves Melania. Shouldn’t she be uncomfortable among all these people who despise her husband? What explains her apparent ease, smiling as readily as the rest of them?


The clue might be in some of the other pictures taken at Saturday’s service. There she was, seated next to Barack Obama, looking positively cheery. “Have you ever, ever, EVER seen Melania smile like this, and look this relaxed, beside her own husband? Ever?,” tweeted the science writer Steve Silberman. Others noted the oddity that here was the first lady looking happier than she had in ages – at a funeral.

There is indeed no shortage of pictures of Melania looking miserable or ignored by Trump, as he walks up or down the stairs of Air Force One without her, not showing his wife even the most basic courtesy, let alone marital affection. Compared to the hostile environment that is a Trump marriage, a moment with the real-life presidents’ club must have felt like blissful respite."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...melania-smiling-so-broadly-at-a-funeral#img-1

 

[bellenuit]

Talk about shooting yourself in the foot. Trump destroys his own defence in Cohen document suppression case.

 

[bellenuit]

Have you ever seen the Fox hosts look so scared with what they have just unleashed. Watch a speeded up video of Trumps 30 minute rant at the 2:20 mark.

 

[wayneL]

Just sayin'

(Nobel Peace Prize for The Donald?)

 

[bellenuit]

Just sayin'

(Nobel Peace Prize for The Donald?)

Much that I hope for peace in Korea, that post is a bit like Bush's "Mission Accomplished"

 

[wayneL]

Much that I hope for peace in Korea, that post is a bit like Bush's "Mission Accomplished"

Or Obama's Nobel Peace Prize?

 

[bellenuit]

Or Obama's Nobel Peace Prize?

Yeh. That too

 

[moXJO]

Much that I hope for peace in Korea, that post is a bit like Bush's "Mission Accomplished"

Big step though.

 

[luutzu]

Just sayin'

(Nobel Peace Prize for The Donald?)

I heard that S.Korea's president Moon deserve the credit as he was the one pushing for it. But then being a colonial governor you can't do much without getting permission so yea... credit goes to Trump.

But if there's to be lasting peace in the peninsular, give that orange douche a few Nobel that's for sure.

But peace isn't the end game here. We all know what happened to Saddam, Qaddafi, lately Assad... So why would Kim or Xi want and permit this deal?

The US don't really want to, maybe they do who knows, draw China into a proxy war. That'd be opening up quite a few fronts. And even Napoleon couldn't win too many of those.

So is the US thinking that this will flip North Korea under South Korea, hence into the arm of freedom. Is China seeing this the same way... allowing that one Korea and Chinese influence to reach right up to Japan and US.

Is S.Korea seeing this as a chance to tell the US to remove all its military bases from their country? That's not going to happen right?

Maybe they all just want peace.

 

[IFocus]

Trump can rightfully take credit for the current Korea situation masterpiece thinking hiring the strongest hawks (nutters) that are gunho on invading anyone, wonder if Iran will start singing a different tune soon.

 

[Tisme]

Trump can rightfully take credit for the current Korea situation masterpiece thinking hiring the strongest hawks (nutters) that are gunho on invading anyone, wonder if Iran will start singing a different tune soon.

Dictators admire strong enemies:- it insinuates peerage amongst peers and justifies armies, secret police and suppression of personal freedoms.

Asians have an evolutionary psychology different to westerners. Koreans have personal barriers of shame, secrecy, honour and a strong aversion to humiliation inscribed in their psyche, whereas westerners tend to be more comfortable sharing it around. That Trump has managed to cut through these taboos is rather impressive IMO.

Trump's attitude seems rather simple ... you want to play in our sandpit you will play by our rules.

 

[Darc Knight]

Someone was trying to tell me on the weekend that Trump is just a figurehead with "faceless men" pulling the strings behind the scenes. I tried to argue against this but gave up.
Unlike some past Presidents, Trump got there without much backing so owes very little and wouldn't be a figurehead at all, correct???

 

[SirRumpole]

Unlike some past Presidents, Trump got there without much backing so owes very little and wouldn't be a figurehead at all, correct???

True, he does his own thing for better or worse.

That also means he doesn't make many alliances and therefore faces the fact that anything he wants to do by way of legislation may not get the support he needs.

Swings and roundabouts.

 

[wayneL]

A Nobel for Trump being mooted on ABC radio this morning, You could just about hear the marxist shills dry wretching

 

[Darc Knight]

A Nobel for Trump being mooted on ABC radio this morning, You could just about hear the marxist shills dry wretching

For standing up to "little Rocket Man" and bringing him to the table?

 

[Gringotts Bank]

True, he does his own thing for better or worse.

That also means he doesn't make many alliances and therefore faces the fact that anything he wants to do by way of legislation may not get the support he needs.

Swings and roundabouts.

With Trump I find it hard to tell the difference between a hardening of the shell and courage. Certainly there's a degree of courage in him that is impressive. I can't think of another world leader who would manage to maintain focus with half the population bullying, mocking and defaming him around the clock, 24/7. The good old left media...so loving in their own eyes... yet so bullying.

Watch the media as they ernestly condemn school bullying in one breath, then completely rip into Trump and his family and have a good old laugh about it in the next.