Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[moXJO]

Could the be some truth in this:


"Former UK Ambassador to Syria: Syrian Chemical Weapons Attack Was STAGED By Islamic Jihadi Propagandists, No One Actually Died"

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018...ical-weapons-attack-was-staged-islamic-jihadi

Every time a supposed pro govt chemical attack occurs, the rebels just happens to be losing a major city stronghold.
They just lost Douma, the chemical attack was supposedly in the last days of fighting.
It was the same in previous attacks. Rebels had the $hit bombed out of them and were about to lose a city and bam- chemical attack.
Fail to see what possible reason there was to use chemicals.

When Douma was lost. The Russian and pro govt forces made a deal with the rebels to hand back medium and heavy weapons. And let them retreat. Hardly the actions of someone that would gas people.

 

[PZ99]

I don't name call the lower than a snakes belly deadsh1ts (aka Lenin's "useful idiots") who pray at the alter of cultural marxism, but I don't worship the go you good thing Trump either.

I don't like cultural Marxism anymore than you but that's not the point. The point is if you disagree with Trump or Abbott or their supporters or whoever you are looked upon as some inferior hater with tall poppy syndrome and an ulterior motive to destroy Western culture by throwing darts at the Corporatocracy. It's a very simplistic and erroneous cop out overused on forums of late.
Another name for it is passive trolling.

I'll judge Donald Trump on his results. So far I think they're crap but if he can do something useful like getting NK de-nuked through negotiation rather than force then I'll give him due credit.

Until then...

 

[Tisme]

I don't like cultural Marxism anymore than you but that's not the point. The point is if you disagree with Trump or Abbott or their supporters or whoever you are looked upon as some inferior hater with tall poppy syndrome and an ulterior motive to destroy Western culture by throwing darts at the Corporatocracy. It's a very simplistic and erroneous cop out overused on forums of late.
Another name for it is passive trolling.

I'll judge Donald Trump on his results. So far I think they're crap but if he can do something useful like getting NK de-nuked through negotiation rather than force then I'll give him due credit.

Until then...

Wot?

I don't think I'm a passive troller ... seems only the few of us here have no allegiance to the duopoly that is erroneously considered a choice.

 

[IFocus]

The Trump haters forget what the alternative was... also based on ideological grounds I guess.

The argument that Trump is OK because Hillary would have been worse doesn't cut it, ain't that a "straw man thing" neither is the Trump hater thing valid.

A few facts Trump at best is a pathological liar, exhibits extreme narcissism, unfaithful, treasonous, colluded with Russia US enemy, his administration is a shambles (proof all those repubs bailing in Nov) I could go on but there is no defense for Trump on any level particularly if you have any morals,are a Christian or Republican I think the rest of the world looks on in disbelief not so much the hate thing.

Hate is what the right can do so much better.

I have never known a western world leader to get away with behavior that Trump has, to me he is getting free passes.

 

[basilio]

I don't name call the lower than a snakes belly deadsh1ts (aka Lenin's "useful idiots") who pray at the alter of cultural marxism, but I don't worship the go you good thing Trump either.

You don't worship The Don Tisme ? You don't kiss his ring ? Nuzzle his posterior ? Kowtow to his infinite wisdom, integrity and business accumen ?

If you had the slighest sliver of integrity you would recognise and condemn the corruption that Donald Trump has brought to the Presidency of the US. You would be very concerned at the dangers he brings to international trade, US relations in Europe and risks of war in Syria. And you would recognise that a creature who has raised 20 separate cases of sexual abuse and called every complainant aliar has no place as leader of a country.

But hey you just don't worship at his feet. well done..

 

[Tisme]

You don't worship The Don Tisme ? You don't kiss his ring ? Nuzzle his posterior ? Kowtow to his infinite wisdom, integrity and business accumen ?

If you had the slighest sliver of integrity you would recognise and condemn the corruption that Donald Trump has brought to the Presidency of the US. You would be very concerned at the dangers he brings to international trade, US relations in Europe and risks of war in Syria. And you would recognise that a creature who has raised 20 separate cases of sexual abuse and called every complainant aliar has no place as leader of a country.

But hey you just don't worship at his feet. well done..

If you had an iota knowledge of how to run corporations et al, you would know the value of delivered entropy into the mix. It has saved many enterprises due to many facets of human behaviour e.g.

lantern wick productivity effect;
voluntary resignations by laggards;
revelation of latent leadership potentials;
increased high yield risk;
etc.

The fear that comes from short sighted naysayers must be addressed in terms of them worried about the ashes left after the bonfire....who's gonna pick up the pieces at it were. Hopefully the company won't return to its downward trajectory to terminal state

 

[wayneL]

The argument that Trump is OK because Hillary would have been worse doesn't cut it, ain't that a "straw man thing" neither is the Trump hater thing valid.

A few facts Trump at best is a pathological liar, exhibits extreme narcissism, unfaithful, treasonous, colluded with Russia US enemy, his administration is a shambles (proof all those repubs bailing in Nov) I could go on but there is no defense for Trump on any level particularly if you have any morals,are a Christian or Republican I think the rest of the world looks on in disbelief not so much the hate thing.

Hate is what the right can do so much better.

I have never known a western world leader to get away with behavior that Trump has, to me he is getting free passes.

Like I have said repeatedly this is America's Berlusconi moment. It was always going to be entertaining and scandal-ridden that was a no brainer. But what the hateful cultural Marxists on the extreme left refuse to admit is that the American economy is doing rather well, the Donald is doing a fair bit right and he is gaining popularity despite the scandals.

the strategic position remains to be seen but there are some encouraging signs there even if things area bit scary.

Trump it's not as dumb as the disingenuous outrage mongerss like to portray and I posit that he is a great deal more intelligent than any of you lot.

And just think what would you like have to be outraged about if not for the Donald

 

[basilio]

Oh what obscure drivel you write when you get a wind up Tisme. Really!!

Let's try a really clear First.

The US Government is not a Corporation. It is the governing body of the most powerful country on the planet. It has responsibilities way beyond making the biggest bucks and creating the wealthiest CEO's.

And after the first ? Hopeless conflicts of interest, inveterate liar, abuse of power, destructor of international bonds.

But let's not worry - someone can bury the ashes can't they?

 

[IFocus]

Like I have said repeatedly this is America's Berlusconi moment. It was always going to be entertaining and scandal-ridden that was a no brainer. But what the hateful cultural Marxists on the extreme left refuse to admit is that the American economy is doing rather well, the Donald is doing a fair bit right and he is gaining popularity despite the scandals.

the strategic position remains to be seen but there are some encouraging signs there even if things area bit scary.

Trump it's not as dumb as the disingenuous outrage mongerss like to portray and I posit that he is a great deal more intelligent than any of you lot.

And just think what would you like have to be outraged about if not for the Donald

Berlusconi was entertaining, Trump is no Berlusconi another straw man argument.

US economy was actually trending up under Obama (and remember he got handed armageddon) the stock market likes Trump because of a $1,5 tril give away what a genius.....pity about the continuing trajectory of wealth disparity and that those working 3 jobs to eat will be paying for the $1.5 tril.

Another straw man argument is the outage claim there is no outrage just to many facts to demonstrate the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy (I am not including you in this) of the political right here in Oz and the US.

Donald will end in flames and the Repubs know it....rats jumping ship.

 

[wayneL]

I think you should look up what a straw man argument is ifocus.

 

[cynic]

Berlusconi was entertaining, Trump is no Berlusconi another straw man argument.

US economy was actually trending up under Obama (and remember he got handed armageddon) the stock market likes Trump because of a $1,5 tril give away what a genius.....pity about the continuing trajectory of wealth disparity and that those working 3 jobs to eat will be paying for the $1.5 tril.

Another straw man argument is the outage claim there is no outrage just to many facts to demonstrate the hypocrisy and moral bankruptcy (I am not including you in this) of the political right here in Oz and the US.

Donald will end in flames and the Repubs know it....rats jumping ship.

Have you so quickly forgotten about the immense costs of the various rounds of quantitive easing, the toxic asset relief programme, operation twist, various industry bailouts (insurance, automative etc.) - all of which predated the Trumping Don!

1.5 T is nothing in comparison with what had been injected during the decade prior to His advent!!

 

[Tisme]

Oh what obscure drivel you write when you get a wind up Tisme. Really!!

Let's try a really clear First.

The US Government is not a Corporation. It is the governing body of the most powerful country on the planet. It has responsibilities way beyond making the biggest bucks and creating the wealthiest CEO's.

And after the first ? Hopeless conflicts of interest, inveterate liar, abuse of power, destructor of international bonds.

But let's not worry - someone can bury the ashes can't they?

I'll give you a hall pass on the Govt versus Corp brain fart so you can think about how silly it sounds.

Brass tacks: it appears you have more knowledge than the various attack dogs and committees who haven't managed to find conflicts of interest, inveterate lying, etc. You must have a magic pudding stuffed away somewhere

 

[basilio]

I'll give you a hall pass on the Govt versus Corp brain fart so you can think about how silly it sounds.

Brass tacks: it appears you have more knowledge than the various attack dogs and committees who haven't managed to find conflicts of interest, inveterate lying, etc. You must have a magic pudding stuffed away somewhere

Realy Tisme ! If you can't understand the difference between running a corporation solely for profit and maximising your wealth as CEO and running a government which serves a whole nation.. well you make The Don look like an intellectual.

As for denying the lying, the conflicts of interest, the destruction of international bonds.. Just send me some of your extra special meds. Obviously very effective.
Take your pick of any article you find when you punch in
Financial conflicts of interest for donald Trump

www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

 

[basilio]

Let's get back to today's Trumpian lies. James Comey writes a book detailing his conversations with The Don and, amongst other comments, observing how exactly The Don mimics the behaviour of the Godfathers in the Mafia. As if this was news to anyone.

Check out it out.

PostEverything
Perspective
Trump is calling Comey a liar because to Trump, all criticism is a lie.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ne-who-criticizes-him/?utm_term=.c68611776fdd

 

[IFocus]

Have you so quickly forgotten about the immense costs of the various rounds of quantitive easing, the toxic asset relief programme, operation twist, various industry bailouts (insurance, automative etc.) - all of which predated the Trumping Don!

1.5 T is nothing in comparison with what had been injected during the decade prior to His advent!!

Are you talking about the Fed policy or Reps/Senate/Pres bills?

 

[cynic]

Are you talking about the Fed policy or Reps/Senate/Pres bills?

Does the authorship of the programmes, funded from the public purse, alter the matter to which I was alerting you?

 

[Tisme]

Realy Tisme ! If you can't understand the difference between running a corporation solely for profit and maximising your wealth as CEO and running a government which serves a whole nation.. well you make The Don look like an intellectual.

As for denying the lying, the conflicts of interest, the destruction of international bonds.. Just send me some of your extra special meds. Obviously very effective.
Take your pick of any article you find when you punch in
Financial conflicts of interest for donald Trump

www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

Really has two els.

The rest is just time wasting. If you don't know the common variables of govt and private to maximise productivity you would be starting way back behind the start line and that's too big a teaching task for anyone man, even me...

 

[Tisme]

Let's get back to today's Trumpian lies. James Comey writes a book detailing his conversations with The Don and, amongst other comments, observing how exactly The Don mimics the behaviour of the Godfathers in the Mafia. As if this was news to anyone.

Check out it out.

PostEverything
Perspective
Trump is calling Comey a liar because to Trump, all criticism is a lie.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...ne-who-criticizes-him/?utm_term=.c68611776fdd

Alpha males intimidate your sense of fair play don't they bas ......nurse!

 

[Tisme]

https://www.chronicle.com/article/Dear-Humanities-Profs-We-Are/243100?cid=wcontentgrid_hp_6

Parsed portion of letter:
Now that we have a culture of higher education in which business studies dominate; now that we face legislatures blind to the value of the liberal arts; now that we behold in the toxic briskness of the four-hour news cycle a president and party that share our disregard for expertise while making a travesty of our aversion to power, the consequences of our disavowal of expertise are becoming clear. The liquidation of literary authority partakes of a climate in which all expertise has been liquidated. In such a climate, nothing stands against demagoguery. What could?

 

[IFocus]

Does the authorship of the programmes, funded from the public purse, alter the matter to which I was alerting you?

What matters is who pays for the debt when you reduce revenue (tax cuts) someone pays for that reduction either by increasing someone's else's contribution or reducing services (health/education) to make up the shortfall that wont be big business in the US.

There is no plan to pay for the debt unless you believe the Repubs about the boom will make up the difference and then there is the trickle down economics BS.

Am not arguing Dems better than Repubs both really suck and both own where the US is today with the wealth disparity I'll leave the labeling / politics to Wayne