NBN Rollout Scrapped

[Tisme]

Yeah for our political masters playing politics with our future.

Surprisingly this online article is from the NewscorpLNP stable:

http://www.news.com.au/technology/o...s/news-story/dd8816e7f16799166dc2a7b89cc69528

 

[drsmith]

The NBN has passed over 5.6m premises as at June 29 2017. The June 30 2017 target from the corporate plan published in H2 2015 was 5,442k premises. This puts to bed once and for all that the leaked information from early last year indicating delays related to more aggressive internal targets rather than the publically published targets.

 

[Tisme]

Get involved so we get to the truth of what we got.

https://www.choice.com.au/broadband

 

[Tisme]

And to put it in perspective of how quality versus quantity, some examples of NBN installs:


1. Kinked conduit:

2. Under House

3. External

4. WTF

5. Peno

 

[Tisme]

So the West Australians don't feel left out here's some examples of quality installs in Victoria Park:

 

[Tisme]

https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2017/...-seven-states-and-capital-cities-infographic/

The company behind the National Broadband Network (NBN) wants you to know that the project has finally reached the half-way point, with approximately 50 per cent of Australians now able to connect. If you're still waiting for the NBN in your area, you probably want to know how this percentage breaks down in each state and capital city. This infographic provides some (but not all) of the answers.

These infographics are part of NBN's latest public relations rollout - which has a much faster and better organised delivery schedule than the network itself. (Maybe they should put the marketers in charge?) Needless to say, the facts and figures contained in these graphics must be taken with a huge grain of salt: after all, they were specifically created to cast the NBN's construction in the best light possible.

Nevertheless, they still make for interesting reading - especially when it comes to what's missing. Apparently, people outside of the below states and cities don't need to worry about the status of the NBN, as no additional graphics were released. Meanwhile, independent analysis by the Centre for Research Excellence in the Social Determinants of Health Equity has discovered that areas of greatest socio-economic disadvantage overlap with regions typically receiving NBN infrastructure of poorer quality.


Read more at https://www.lifehacker.com.au/2017/...pital-cities-infographic/#iOPuVRoxIlwL48Wg.99

 

[drsmith]

These infographics are part of NBN's latest public relations rollout - which has a much faster and better organised delivery schedule than the network itself. (Maybe they should put the marketers in charge?) Needless to say, the facts and figures contained in these graphics must be taken with a huge grain of salt: after all, they were specifically created to cast the NBN's construction in the best light possible.

What evidence is there to support the above claim that the rollout figures have been falsified ?

 

[sptrawler]

It is still just a white elephant, dreamed up on the back of a napkin, that we will pay for add infinitum. IMO

 

[drsmith]

It is still just a white elephant, dreamed up on the back of a napkin, that we will pay for add infinitum. IMO

The only saving grace is that it's gone from a beast with 3 broken legs to a beast with 1 broken leg.

 

[Tisme]

Halfway there with lemons is not the same as half way there with oranges, but heh the rusted ons will be happy with their heroes selling a second rate system as a halo event

 

[CanOz]

Tisme, we were destined to get a second rate network.....but can you tell me why?

 

[CanOz]

Here's a hint minion....

New Brunswick leads Canada in providing high-speed Internet access
08 May 2016
FREDERICTON (GNB) – Access to high-speed Internet and providing reliable cell coverage are helping to make New Brunswick a leader in connectivity and to develop the information and communications technology and cybersecurity sectors of the economy.

The Canadian Internet Registration Authority recently found that the province has the best internet access in the country, with average download speeds of around 27 megabytes per second.

“Being leaders in connectivity will spur economic growth in New Brunswick and help our businesses innovate,” said Premier Brian Gallant, who is also minister responsible for innovation.

Gallant referred to a Queen’s University study that found the deployment of broadband promotes employment growth in rural regions, which helps businesses overcome geographic barriers. He said this fits well with the provincial government’s top priority of job creation.

Agriculture, Aquaculture and Fisheries Minister Rick Doucet, who is also minister responsible for Opportunities NB, agreed that connectivity is crucial in today’s economic climate.

“We are committed to improving connectivity in New Brunswick,” said Doucet. “We are pleased to see that, by working with our private-sector partners, we have improved connectivity in the province to the point where we are the national leaders.”

Since 2003, the provincial government has worked with the private sector to increase connectivity for all New Brunswickers by investing in broadband and cellular improvements, including:

• $18 million with Xplornet Communications, to provide broadband to about 43,000 rural homes and businesses; and

• $12.7 million with Bell Canada to improve urban and rural broadband.

The provincial government is investing $8 million over the next two years for the construction of 10 new radio towers that can be used by the private sector to locate cellular and wireless broadband services.

Private-sector telecommunications companies have also invested in New Brunswick. Rogers has invested $500 million over the last three decades and the Fredericton-based F6 Networks invested $8 million in fibre-optic infrastructure in 2013-14. In addition, Bell Canada has invested $60 million to build its fibre-optic network in the province, and Xplornet Communications spent $26 million in its efforts to provide broadband service in rural areas.

http://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/news_release.2016.05.0372.html

 

[sptrawler]

The only saving grace is that it's gone from a beast with 3 broken legs to a beast with 1 broken leg.

It is still a hell of a lot of money, that could have been used, to create a lot of ongoing value added infrastructure

 

[Tisme]

Tisme, we were destined to get a second rate network.....but can you tell me why?

Yes I can, but much of it is self evident and is starting to manifest itself by the number of complaints being recorded by organisations like Choice in collaboration with various university bodies.

I could waffle on with metatalk, but at the end of the day the choice of delivery, the method of delivery and build quality are just not there. The argument is not whether the original concept was financially sound, but whether building an Austin A40 to compete with a Commodore/Falcon was a sound decison, given the imperative of Abbott to make the ALP seen as stink.

Media is already taking vast amounts of bandwidth and we only have a few players here ATM. When free to air moves entirely to broadband, when home automation, smart appliances, VOIP, high bit strength computing, etc hit and hit hard the 25 megs that newbs are happy with now will struggle and be like 1200 bps modems compared to 14.4k bps models, that lasted all of a twelve months as technology takeup accelerated.

OK if you are old and crusty I'm sure none of it compares to the gramophone, Astor wireless and Robert Menzies, but really the new gens are already gaming, while streaming, while social posting, while doing their education course, while binge watching Netflix and Stan and there comes a limit when the 32 GB memory is no longer keeping latency in check.

 

[drsmith]

It is still a hell of a lot of money, that could have been used, to create a lot of ongoing value added infrastructure

There's no doubt that the political process from which this project was conceived has resulted in the waste of vast sums of money.

The rollout under the current government's model hasn't been perfect but it has proceeded much more smoothly than the disaster Labor's FTTP rollout had become by the 2013 election. Those who wish to pretend Labor's already burnt magic pudding would have somehow risen had they won the 2013 election can continue to do so but the history as detailed in this thread and in reality won't change.

 

[Tisme]

 

[Tisme]

"ready for service" farce:

https://www.itnews.com.au/news/nbn-co-finally-reveals-extent-of-micronode-problem-467943

 

[Tisme]

Even their own propaganda damns them:

check out the 598ms ping LOL .... waiting, waiting, make cup of tea, waiting .... need to ask the lump of coal minister what it means

https://www.kotaku.com.au/2017/07/whos-keen-for-600-ping-on-the-nbn/

 

[Tisme]

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/te...-premises-are-misleading-20170711-gx9dti.html

A much more appropriate comparison would be with cities like Auckland, Lisbon or Stockholm, all of which have similar population densities to Sydney and Melbourne. Importantly, the citizens of Auckland, Lisbon and Stockholm enjoy access to state-of-the art FTTP broadband.

Rollout cost
NBN Co has been insisting for 4 years that the cost of rolling out FTTP in Australia remains constant at $4400 per premises. But many FTTP operators around the world have reduced the cost of FTTP by as much as 50 per cent by incorporating improved construction techniques. For example, in New Zealand, Chorus has reduced the costs of FTTP deployment by 44 per cent over the past few years, using a variety of approaches.

 

[Tisme]

http://www2.nbnco.com.au/blog/the-nbn-project/the-realities-of-deploying-fttp-in-australia.html

admitting we hAve second rate:

"The world’s first FTTP networks were deployed in cities like Tokyo, Seoul and Hong Kong, where almost everybody lives in big apartment buildings in very high density areas – that means that if an operator deploys 1km of fibre down a street it can connect thousands of premises and do it at very low cost."