NBN Rollout Scrapped

[Tisme]

So I have lost out on this incompetent Liberal government NBN lotto, ended up about 900m to the node which has resulted in a speed of 30mbs. The worst part is this sham of a government will use me as part of their statistics that people don't want high speed internet when I drop down to the 25mb plan when the reality is I physically can't get high speed internet. It really is a disgrace what they have done to this rollout, the country divided with such a huge array of speeds. There will be people who have access to 1gb download speeds and then people like me who are stuck with 30mbs for who only knows how long.

The speed test results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/6373136822.png

Last mile connections are a disgrace and even worse the availability absence of exchange to premises light pipes.

Only welded on LNP tragics would approve and defend the Heath Robinson mess that has subsidised the Testra shares at the expense of an NBN.

 

[drsmith]

Premises RFS have increased dramatically in the past few weeks but this has been at the expense of an increased proportion of service class zero.

The rollout will pass the June 30 2017 target of 5,442k premises this week if the results past two weeks are replicated this week. It's a far cry from the disaster that Labor's rollout evolved into.

 

[sptrawler]

It is just an $80 billion idiotic tax payer expense, that will cost the tax payer more to access what they currently get for free, the ACCC should be checking out the Government for scamming the Australian public.IMO

 

[overhang]

Premises RFS have increased dramatically in the past few weeks but this has been at the expense of an increased proportion of service class zero.

The rollout will pass the June 30 2017 target of 5,442k premises this week if the results past two weeks are replicated this week. It's a far cry from the disaster that Labor's rollout evolved into.

I think it would be quiet naive to suggest that NBN co wouldn't have found extra efficiency in the rollout of Labors FTTP, it was still in the early stages when the coalition took over in 2013. Reminding you that the Liberal party did promise us the FTTN mess would be complete by 2016, it is on track to be 4 years behind schedule on that one. But it makes much more sense to spend the extra time and do it once than building this colossal disaster that the Liberal party are building. FTTP had such an enormous scope for upgrades without the costly exercise of ripping up cables but it will be an enormous cost to increase FTTN beyond the 25mbps that some people have.

The coalition plan is like gutting a home but leaving the 60 year old rotting redgum stumps that are all out of level when they should have replaced them with new concrete stumps but that would have cost a little extra but lasted a lifetime.

 

[drsmith]

I think it would be quiet naive to suggest that NBN co wouldn't have found extra efficiency in the rollout of Labors FTTP, it was still in the early stages when the coalition took over in 2013. Reminding you that the Liberal party did promise us the FTTN mess would be complete by 2016, it is on track to be 4 years behind schedule on that one. But it makes much more sense to spend the extra time and do it once than building this colossal disaster that the Liberal party are building. FTTP had such an enormous scope for upgrades without the costly exercise of ripping up cables but it will be an enormous cost to increase FTTN beyond the 25mbps that some people have.

The coalition plan is like gutting a home but leaving the 60 year old rotting redgum stumps that are all out of level when they should have replaced them with new concrete stumps but that would have cost a little extra but lasted a lifetime.

As a long time participant in this thread, there's lots I remember.

 

[overhang]

It seems NBN co are just having a lend of us now

As the “Next-Generation” addition suggests, NG-PON2 is the latest version fibre technology standard that nbn could use to augment the current GPON protocol.

nbn recently conducted lab trials that indicate a potentially incredible future for FTTP tech.

These NG-PON2 tests on FTTP technology hit wholesale speeds of up to 10Gbps symmetrical (10Gbps download and upload). ^

That’s 10 times faster than the current top wholesale 1Gbps FTTP download speeds on GPON technology.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/industry/gpon-vs-ng-pon2.html


Why do they continue to invest money into upgrades for a technology that only 25% of the country will have access to (and the 25% already on the fastest connection)? It just further indicates how much the Liberal party screwed this project up. Many of us are destined to have speeds up to a maximum of 100mps until the copper is ripped up and replaced with fibre as it should have been in the first place. And yet the lucky 25% will be able to access speeds of 10gbps without the need to touch the optic fibre, talk about a digital divide.

 

[Tisme]

It seems NBN co are just having a lend of us now


http://www.nbnco.com.au/blog/industry/gpon-vs-ng-pon2.html


Why do they continue to invest money into upgrades for a technology that only 25% of the country will have access to (and the 25% already on the fastest connection)? It just further indicates how much the Liberal party screwed this project up. Many of us are destined to have speeds up to a maximum of 100mps until the copper is ripped up and replaced with fibre as it should have been in the first place. And yet the lucky 25% will be able to access speeds of 10gbps without the need to touch the optic fibre, talk about a digital divide.

I can't see copper being a problem, can you. Comms in this country has always been first class with a monopoly in charge of the networks:

 

[drsmith]

NBN announces the first FTTC (FTTdp) rollout locations,

The company is the first broadband wholesaler in the world to roll the FTTC technology out on a mass scale and today marked the beginning of a trial in Coburg outside of Melbourne. The trial is designed to evaluate the construction and installation of its deployment ahead of the nationwide build that will commence in the coming months.

It was revealed in senate estimates recently that FTTdp is to be expanded beyond the currently 1m planned premises footprint.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/corporate-i...t-new-world-leading-broadband-technology.html

 

[Analizer]

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added mode "USE built-in PROFIT SEARCH PROGRAMM [0/1] =" - now search profit is 30 minutes (previously 6:00 hours)
added mode "(MG) DOUBLE DEFENCE MODE [0/1] =" - modify comments closed MG orders changes
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in the tester appeared able to bind variables between the variables for their uniform periodicity.
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[Tisme]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-...ctor-shortcuts-on-low-pay/8626012?pfmredir=sm

Unions say contractors working for the National Broadband Network are taking shortcuts on in-home installations, blaming low pay and pressure on the workers to complete jobs quickly.

 

[Tisme]

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...ain-about-service-survey-20170616-gwsnng.html

National Broadband Network customers are five times more likely to complain about their service than a non-NBN user, as frustrations continue to surround the nation's biggest infrastructure project.

More than 13,406 complaints were made to the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman about NBN services in the last financial year, which accounted for 11.9 per cent of all complaints received by the TIO, an increase from 5.4 per cent the year before.

 

[Tisme]

We have total blackouts about 50% time(no internet, no phone, no emails,) was bad when we were first conected but then good for about 3 months, now just keeps cutting out

http://aussieoutages.com/status/nbnco

 

[drsmith]

ACCC investigation into consumer speeds on NBN,

https://tenplay.com.au/news/nationa...-launched-after-consumers-misled-by-nbn-speed

 

[sptrawler]

I can't see copper being a problem, can you. Comms in this country has always been first class with a monopoly in charge of the networks:

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Well a friend of mine in Mandurah ( I've used his experiences in the past), has finally had the NBN connected. HIP HIP HOORAY.

Well Mandurah (W.A), one of the early Labor Government roll outs, is fibre to the home.

Well after much encouragement by me, he has finally connected and got off wireless, what a laugh it is slower.
He isn't happy. I'm just saying "hey it is fibre to the house, it don't get better than that".

Biggest waste of money Australia has ever spent, down the track we will find out who got the "backhander", for it. IMO

 

[Tisme]

Well a friend of mine in Mandurah ( I've used his experiences in the past), has finally had the NBN connected. HIP HIP HOORAY.

Well Mandurah (W.A), one of the early Labor Government roll outs, is fibre to the home.

Well after much encouragement by me, he has finally connected and got off wireless, what a laugh it is slower.
He isn't happy. I'm just saying "hey it is fibre to the house, it don't get better than that".

Biggest waste of money Australia has ever spent, down the track we will find out who got the "backhander", for it. IMO

I think you are delighted that your friend has been sold a pup, because it justifies your adhesion to the Liberal Party. There is a lot more to the system than just the physical light pipe and I think you are bright enough to know that and wise enough to know your vitriol to prove a moot point is a waste of time.

The fact is that the trunk is capable of far in excess of 100megs, but if you are going to connect an LNP 4 pot screamer engine to a V8 transmission it isn't going to give you V8 performance. You know the truth and you aren't convincing anyone other than other blinkered party faithful.

 

[sptrawler]

What happened, he was connected to the NBN (fibre to the house), he paid for the minimum 12gb supply.
When the techie checked it it was, 3gb, later we did a speed test it was 8gb.
You can put whatever spin you like on it, but it is just the facts, it isn't $80billion dollars better.
Also it is fibre to the premise, but no doubt, you will blame TONY .lol
I don't have to make excuses, nobody's paying me.

 

[Tisme]

What happened, he was connected to the NBN (fibre to the house), he paid for the minimum 12gb supply.
When the techie checked it it was, 3gb, later we did a speed test it was 8gb.
You can put whatever spin you like on it, but it is just the facts, it isn't $80billion dollars better.
Also it is fibre to the premise, but no doubt, you will blame TONY .lol
I don't have to make excuses, nobody's paying me.

What ISP is supplying only 12megs WTF!!!. And you're saying the fibre and adsl are being offered in the same suburb.... I'm interested when the ADSL will be switched off in his area, he should have been notified?

And yes I agree $80bn for a pup when we could have had an all fibre offering in the majority of places instead of stitching corroded copper onto fibre onto corroded copper onto, whatever piece of scrap Telstra can find.

 

[overhang]

What happened, he was connected to the NBN (fibre to the house), he paid for the minimum 12gb supply.
When the techie checked it it was, 3gb, later we did a speed test it was 8gb.
You can put whatever spin you like on it, but it is just the facts, it isn't $80billion dollars better.
Also it is fibre to the premise, but no doubt, you will blame TONY .lol
I don't have to make excuses, nobody's paying me.

Of course it's possible there is a fault in the line somewhere by NBN co. It's quite apparent by your confusion over gbps and mbps that you're not in a position of expertise to comment on the matter. But from your comments your friend must have purchased a 12mbps plan which is the slowest plan available. So I question if your friend has the latest firmware update for his modem which may be causing the issues, my FTTN speed doubled after applying the firmware update. Unlikely as extreme as you mention but his ISP might be too congested because they haven't purchased enough CVC capacity, this isn't a fault of NBN.

FTTP isn't a lottery like FTTN, your friend should be able to access 100mbps if he wants so there is a problem somewhere there that can be fixed. Me, well mine is running smoothly at 30mbps and the only way to access the 100mbps is to do what Labor planned in the first place and rip up the copper and replace it with fibre. I'd much rather be in your friends position that has a fixable solution.

 

[Tisme]

Of course it's possible there is a fault in the line somewhere by NBN co. It's quite apparent by your confusion over gbps and mbps that you're not in a position of expertise to comment on the matter. But from your comments your friend must have purchased a 12mbps plan which is the slowest plan available. So I question if your friend has the latest firmware update for his modem which may be causing the issues, my FTTN speed doubled after applying the firmware update. Unlikely as extreme as you mention but his ISP might be too congested because they haven't purchased enough CVC capacity, this isn't a fault of NBN.

FTTP isn't a lottery like FTTN, your friend should be able to access 100mbps if he wants so there is a problem somewhere there that can be fixed. Me, well mine is running smoothly at 30mbps and the only way to access the 100mbps is to do what Labor planned in the first place and rip up the copper and replace it with fibre. I'd much rather be in your friends position that has a fixable solution.

Yes it sounds like he believed the LNP's loud hailer at the last election that 25megs could handle five streamed movies simultaneously ...... more like five looped GIFS .....

 

[drsmith]

The rollout update to May 25 shows premises RFS has now passed 5 million.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...lout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-25052017.pdf

The rollout current as at the above date by type compared to forecasts to June 30 2017 from the 2016 Corporate Plan are as follows (current/forecast),

Brownfields: 3737k/4180k.
Greenfields: 377k/370k.
Fixed Wireless: 504k/480k.
Satellite: 417k/412k.
Total: 5035k/5442k.

Rollout stats to June 15 2017 are as follows (current/forecast),

Brownfields: 4103k/4180k.
Greenfields: 384k/370k.
Fixed Wireless: 509k/480k.
Satellite: 417k/412k.
Total: 5414k/5442k.

With 2 weeks to go to June 30, just 28k is required to reach the 2016 corporate plan target of 5,442k premises passed.

The upward spike in service class 0 has however continued with close to 20% of brownfields premises passed in the week to June 15 in that category. By comparison with Labor's FTTP, this was running at just over 1/3rd of the total brownfields rollout at June 30 2013.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...lout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-15062017.pdf