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It's a sad state of affairs. Let's upgrade our internet connectivity using the latest and greatest technology!

.......but take 15 years to implement so it's outdated by the time everyone is online ;(
 
My partners apartment in Japan has wireless broadband. It gets 50Mbit down and 5Mbit up for 3,500 yen a month unlimited. Australia is so fkn pathetic.
 
Had friends from Cairns down for the long weekend. Rather despondently they let it be know how impressed they were with my 20meg ADSl connection compared to their $100/month NBN connection which slows down from walk to crawl at night as fellow neighbours settle into cyberspace. If only they had a choice of rollback.
 
Oh I forgot to mention that boxes and conduits have appeared on the back of one of my industrial sheds. That's not to say NBN is available, but it's going past the premises and that's what counts.
 
There may be fewer homes to connect than previously expected,
NBN Co boss Bill Morrow has revealed fewer homes than expected might need to be connected to the National Broadband Network, with the reduction in the number of overall connections likely to have an impact on the company’s forecasts.

The company relies on geospatial databases to build its designs that allocate when and how the NBN is designed to a home or business. According to Mr Morrow, there’s a discernible difference in the number of homes that NBN Co expects to connect in any given area and how many there actually are.

“I think this is a database issue, in terms of the recordkeeping,” he said at a Senate Estimates Hearing on Thursday.

“We keep tweaking the numbers because it’s an estimate but it literally is hundreds of thousands less than what we had thought,” he said.

Mr Morrow said the lower number of premises could mean the cost of connecting homes to the copper-based fibre-to-the-node (FTTN) and fixed wireless footprints of the NBN edges up.

The cost of connecting a home to FTTN currently stands at around $2100.

The comments come as NBN Co puts the final touches on its next corporate plan, which is due in August.

NBN Co is currently expected to make 9.1 million homes and businesses ready to receive a NBN service by 2018, however, that number could likely be revised.

A NBN Co spokeswoman told The Australian the company expects any impact on cost and size to be minimal.
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/bus...w/news-story/51f19fdbaac580446c5033a58a1c68d1
 
As the starter of this thread I should make a few comments.

I believe that Mr. Rudd and Senator Conroy to have been the two biggest dills ever involved in rolling out a communications platform to a nation, Australia, conceived, as many upper class nitwits, were on an Airline paper towel. I must admit to being a member of the mile high club.

Nonetheless we are still paying for it and Conroy and Rudd have moved on to greater things though I doubt if their contribution will ever appear kindly in the history books.

As a mere citizen it seems impossible to me that all of Australia could not be served by satellite technology. It is clean, requires little digging and covers a large amount.

Even if Rudd and Conroy, had the oomph to mile high, they could not have buggered up satellite technology. If they couldn't do it at a mile high, it would be well nigh impossible to do it in space.

So my question is.

Why don't we have it now. Digging trenches is so old world.

gg
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
As the starter of this thread I should make a few comments.

I believe that Mr. Rudd and Senator Conroy to have been the two biggest dills ever involved in rolling out a communications platform to a nation, Australia, conceived, as many upper class nitwits, were on an Airline paper towel. I must admit to being a member of the mile high club.

Nonetheless we are still paying for it and Conroy and Rudd have moved on to greater things though I doubt if their contribution will ever appear kindly in the history books.

As a mere citizen it seems impossible to me that all of Australia could not be served by satellite technology. It is clean, requires little digging and covers a large amount.

Even if Rudd and Conroy, had the oomph to mile high, they could not have buggered up satellite technology. If they couldn't do it at a mile high, it would be well nigh impossible to do it in space.

So my question is.

Why don't we have it now. Digging trenches is so old world.

gg
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Sky Muster maxes out at 25megs which is not going to be enough bandwidth for future applications
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I believe that Mr. Rudd and Senator Conroy to have been the two biggest dills ever involved in rolling out a communications platform to a nation, Australia, conceived, as many upper class nitwits, were on an Airline paper towel. I must admit to being a member of the mile high club.

Nonetheless we are still paying for it and Conroy and Rudd have moved on to greater things though I doubt if their contribution will ever appear kindly in the history books.
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It could have been worse.

Messrs Rudd and Conroy after looking out the aircraft windows could have decided to commence with pastoral properties by laying fibre across the desert.
 
I just think the funny thing about the NBN is:
A gas pipeline from NW of WA to connect to the Eastern States grid $9 billlion = too expensive.
A pipeline to move water fro the Kimberly down the West coast to Perth $4 billion = too expensive

An internet upgrade to replace something that is already there $80 billion= a brilliant brain fart.
We really do deserve what we get, if you ran your personal finances that way, you would be in deep manure.IMO
 
sptrawler said:
Your spot on, not enough bandwidth to support the unemployed/underemployed, gaming 24/7.
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When the PSTN gets shutdown and IP transition occurs the load is going to drag on the system. When the IP transition of free to "air" occurs it will further degrade the available band width. When satellite transition to hardwire and wireless occurs same problem.

Increased live streaming at medium to high def chews up more juice and puts more dollars in ISP's, pockets

25megs pfft.
 
The rollout update to May 25 shows premises RFS has now passed 5 million.

http://www.nbnco.com.au/content/dam...lout-metrics/nbn-rollout-metrics-25052017.pdf

The rollout current as at the above date by type compared to forecasts to June 30 2017 from the 2016 Corporate Plan are as follows (current/forecast),

Brownfields: 3737k/4180k.
Greenfields: 377k/370k.
Fixed Wireless: 504k/480k.
Satellite: 417k/412k.
Total: 5035k/5442k.

To reach the 5442k target in the remaining 5 weeks and one day to June 30, a further 407k premises need to be passed at an average of about 79k per week. The remaining brownfields specific target is a little higher as other elements above have already reached or passed June 30 2017 targets. That's 443k at an average of about 86k per week.

Finder is no longer a useful advance guide as to premises RFS as its rollout region list doesn't appear to have updated with areas where the brownfields rollout has commenced after September 2016.
 
NBN coming to my current home ....only FTTN available ..... wot's the point of even trying to compare the original idea with the current one. Old copper bell cable lines FFS .
 
Tisme said:
NBN coming to my current home ....only FTTN available ..... wot's the point of even trying to compare the original idea with the current one. Old copper bell cable lines FFS .
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You're a bit late to that debate but there is over 200 pages in this thread since it was started in 2011, many of which are dedicated to the relative merit between the current government's rollout and the former Labor government's rollout.
 
Tisme said:
NBN coming to my current home ....only FTTN available ..... wot's the point of even trying to compare the original idea with the current one. Old copper bell cable lines FFS .
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Well that's pretty good, I have finally talked a mate into connecting in Mandurah W.A, it was one of the first roll outs.
Well he was rather circumspect, because he had taken days off work in the early days to get a connection, it didn't happen.
Well he fell off his motorbike and broke his leg, so thought great opportunity to connect, what a hoot no signal at the node.
Before anyone jumps in, it is fibre to the house.
Absolute Labor FFF up0.IMO
 
sptrawler said:
Well that's pretty good, I have finally talked a mate into connecting in Mandurah W.A, it was one of the first roll outs.
Well he was rather circumspect, because he had taken days off work in the early days to get a connection, it didn't happen.
Well he fell off his motorbike and broke his leg, so thought great opportunity to connect, what a hoot no signal at the node.
Before anyone jumps in, it is fibre to the house.
Absolute Labor FFF up0.IMO
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That's even worse ... forbidden fruit !!
 
sptrawler said:
Well that's pretty good, I have finally talked a mate into connecting in Mandurah W.A, it was one of the first roll outs.
Well he was rather circumspect, because he had taken days off work in the early days to get a connection, it didn't happen.
Well he fell off his motorbike and broke his leg, so thought great opportunity to connect, what a hoot no signal at the node.
Before anyone jumps in, it is fibre to the house.
Absolute Labor FFF up0.IMO
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I'm wondering if your friend is in a similar situation as my sister in Perth. She has fibre at her home that was installed decades ago, but NBN won't use it....nothing directly to do with the Labor Party nor, I'm supposing, the LNP?

Meanwhile: http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/2021641
 
Tisme said:
Had friends from Cairns down for the long weekend. Rather despondently they let it be know how impressed they were with my 20meg ADSl connection compared to their $100/month NBN connection which slows down from walk to crawl at night as fellow neighbours settle into cyberspace. If only they had a choice of rollback.
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Supposedly a lot of people have been experiencing this and I believe it's due to the accelerated rollout and the fact that NBN don't have the backhaul capacity to service all the customers at this time. A lot of people are concerned about lack of fibre to the home and having to settle with copper (to the node), but I'm more worried about their backhaul capacity. Sure it might be over subscribed now because of the accelerated rollout but when, if ever, will it be upgraded? Are they even obligated to do so?
 
So I have lost out on this incompetent Liberal government NBN lotto, ended up about 900m to the node which has resulted in a speed of 30mbs. The worst part is this sham of a government will use me as part of their statistics that people don't want high speed internet when I drop down to the 25mb plan when the reality is I physically can't get high speed internet. It really is a disgrace what they have done to this rollout, the country divided with such a huge array of speeds. There will be people who have access to 1gb download speeds and then people like me who are stuck with 30mbs for who only knows how long.

The speed test results. http://www.speedtest.net/result/6373136822.png
 

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