ASF Moderation

[Joe Blow]

Battman asked where doctorj lived in Perth
doctorj said he wouldn't post that sort of information...fair enough
We said North or South...PM us
Did he want to meet up on behalf of ASF/Joe
No reply...just kept deleting our posts
We assume he doesn't. No problem.

Bronte, doctorj is not a representative of either myself or ASF, he is just a moderator doing his job. I don't think there should be any talk of meeting up. Lets keep forum related issues to the forum.

 

[Bronte]

Battman asked where doctorj lived in Perth
doctorj said he wouldn't post that sort of information...fair enough
We said North or South...PM us
Did he want to meet up on behalf of ASF/Joe
No reply...just kept deleting our posts
We assume he doesn't. No problem.

As I posted...no problem Joe
We were just looking for a reply.

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

I give my support to the moderators who have been quite good recently.

Retrospective trades don`t add much to the forum. From a point of analysis if you study retrospectively then how does one trade?

 

[Bronte]

We certainly agree with you there SP
Just out of interest what was the last retrospective trade you observed?

 

[It's Snake Pliskin]

We certainly agree with you there SP
Just out of interest what was the last retrospective trade you observed?

I can`t remember- I can`t even remember what I had for dinner yesterday most of the time - but I am just stating my opinion. No attack or direction at the SPI thread.

 

[BentRod]

Wayne....is that you in the shorts?? :

 

[Bronte]

I can`t remember- I can`t even remember what I had for dinner yesterday most of the time - but I am just stating my opinion. No attack or direction at the SPI thread.

OK Thanks SP

 

[Macquack]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Do the honourable thing Wayne and resign from being a "Mod".

Then you will be on the same level as everyone else and your bull**** (precisely constructed statements) will be the same as everybody else's bull**** and have no authority.

 

[wayneL]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Okay , how about this Macquack:

If you can find a single incidence of where I have used my mod status in this thread, or the climate thread for that matter, in any way shape or form, either negatively, or even positively, I will immediately resign.

Fair?

 

[explod]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Okay , how about this Macquack:

If you can find a single incidence of where I have used my mod status in this thread, or the climate thread for that matter, in any way shape or form, either negatively, or even positively, I will immediately resign.

Fair?

During my professional career I could never comment on or be involved in public discussion, politics etc., for good reason. People we protected needed to feel us as impartial.

If you understand ethics you will either stand off from discussion or resign your position as a mod. This is the only area where I have felt uncomfortable with Joe Blow's overall standing. Unfortunately WayneL you are far too emotional and veheement. And I very much conceed the same problem as there are many shades of grey in all discussion and blood can run high sometimes. But on a percieved level playing field we can learn off each other without feeling the system itself has one locked out.

 

[wayneL]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Big difference Plod.

Yours was a paid, public position. I'm just a member of a forum, lending a hand when I can.

If forum mods can not function as an ordinary member, why would one ever volunteer.

It doesn't worry me mate, Joe can sack me anytime, and frankly Im sick of you guys pulling the same thing out of your backside when you're losing an argument.

 

[SirRumpole]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Big difference Plod.

Yours was a paid, public position. I'm just a member of a forum, lending a hand when I can.

If forum mods can not function as an ordinary member, why would one ever volunteer.

It doesn't worry me mate, Joe can sack me anytime, and frankly Im sick of you guys pulling the same thing out of your backside when you're losing an argument.

As a moderator you are supposed to be setting an example Wayne, not slanging off fellow members.

Moderators should be able to express an opinion, but in a way that elevates the standard of debate, not drag it down.

 

[explod]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Big difference Plod.

Yours was a paid, public position. I'm just a member of a forum, lending a hand when I can.

If forum mods can not function as an ordinary member, why would one ever volunteer.

It doesn't worry me mate, Joe can sack me anytime, and frankly Im sick of you guys pulling the same thing out of your backside when you're losing an argument.

No champ, can't squirm away like that. I am an active volunteer with tbe Red Cross and take care to never devulge or enter into discussions that may reveal the inner personal issues of others or business of the service. Great care is taken to ensure the people I interact with see me as just an impartial ear and to offer alternative ways of seeing an issue. . A Mod could in fact operate in this way, take part and be impartial but you do not seem to understand this.

And I would be most happy to catch up with you later in the year here in Melbourne for a hats off down to earth discussion.

 

[Joe Blow]

I've moved the last four posts from "The West has lost its freedom of speech" thread into this one because it seemed like a more appropriate place for them.

About moderation I'll just say this, moderators are ordinary ASF members who help out with administrative tasks when the situation calls for it. It is a volunteer position, not a paid one. Most moderation is deleting spam, merging threads or moving them from one forum to another. I cannot recall an instance where moderators at ASF have abused their position.

Everyone is held to the same standards. At the same time, everyone has good days and bad days. All I ask is that people do their best to get along with others. I know it's difficult sometimes, but it's worth striving for.

 

[trainspotter]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

Do the honourable thing Wayne and resign from being a "Mod".

Then you will be on the same level as everyone else and your bull**** (precisely constructed statements) will be the same as everybody else's bull**** and have no authority.

Welcome to the hypocrisy zone .....

 

[cynic]

I noticed a complaint in relation to the inability of some members to place another on ignore due to their status as moderator.

Much as I hate to see anyone feeling the need to resort to such measures whilst participating in this community, (I sincerely hope that the plaintiff will reconsider), I cannot help but recognise a small issue regarding fairness.

The need for an exemption whilst posting in the moderator capacity is perfectly understandable. The exemption does, however, appear to extend beyond the scope of moderation, and is having the unfortunate side effect of leaving some members with a sense of inequality during general participation.

Is there some way that a member's exemption may be limited to only those posts made for the specific purpose of moderation?

 

[Logique]

I've moved the last four posts from "The West has lost its freedom of speech" thread into this one because it seemed like a more appropriate place for them.
About moderation I'll just say this, moderators are ordinary ASF members who help out with administrative tasks when the situation calls for it. It is a volunteer position, not a paid one. Most moderation is deleting spam, merging threads or moving them from one forum to another. I cannot recall an instance where moderators at ASF have abused their position.
Everyone is held to the same standards. At the same time, everyone has good days and bad days. All I ask is that people do their best to get along with others. I know it's difficult sometimes, but it's worth striving for.

As you say Joe, Wayne is after all, a volunteer. Those objecting to his Moderation have the opportunity to step up, and offer to take over the role themselves.

 

[dutchie]

As you say Joe, Wayne is after all, a volunteer. Those objecting to his Moderation have the opportunity to step up, and offer to take over the role themselves.

Or prove that he is abusing his position.

 

[pixel]

As you say Joe, Wayne is after all, a volunteer. Those objecting to his Moderation have the opportunity to step up, and offer to take over the role themselves.

Having been there myself, I know what an unrewarding job it is to volunteer as a moderator.
At no stage have I seen Wayne orate for or against an argument or person in his official capacity as a mod. That doesn't mean I find all of his posts "moderate". Another moderator might well be asking for a little less vitriol. But I don't have to resort to an "Ignore" button either.

A number of members on this Forum continue to express views that I find extremely objectionable. Depending on how much (or little) time I have, I may put my own opinion up against theirs, but trying to re-educate someone on a hard-line subject is futile. As Lazarus Long put it:

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.

 

[Ves]

Re: The West has lost its freedom of speech

If forum mods can not function as an ordinary member, why would one ever volunteer.

Agree with this.

I find a lot of the stuff that you post objectionable/disagreeable, but I don't really think any of it has ever made me question your role as a moderator.

Hmm, as you've put it in other contexts: "apology industry" in full force in this case.

Posters on this site have a long history in making moderators relinquish their roles for the most minor reasons IMO. I guess people love the scent of blood / defeat of a "superior" too much.