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Straight to an Orwellian Hell

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If Hillary gets in , it will be on the same ticket that Obama did - sentiment.

(first black, first woman)
 
Yeah but there is also a Green party....so hows that work?
 
CanOz said:
Yeah but there is also a Green party....so hows that work?
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The Green and other Libertarian party would attract enough Sanders and Independent supporters to make a Trump victory more likely every day.
 
luutzu said:
The Green and other Libertarian party would attract enough Sanders and Independent supporters to make a Trump victory more likely every day.
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Green ideology is authoritarian not libertarian
 
wayneL said:
Green ideology is authoritarian not libertarian
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I think they also have a very minor political party call the "Libertarian Party", not the Aussie Captain Abbott/Turnbull "Liberal" party.

I've read that a fair number, maybe 25%, of Sanders voters have said they will vote Green; with 50% will block their nose and go to Clinton because they hate Trump more; the other 25% will just stay home.

The Republicans might have the same ratio, but there doesn't seem to be a third right wing party they'd vote for so they would just turn up and vote Trump because they really don't like Clinton that much.

More scientific polls are showing Trump ahead nationally, and was either ahead or tie Clinton in the important swing states.

With all the name recognition and years of "experience", she sure has a con artist failed business idiot giving her a run for her money.
 
According to a think tank, the latest figures, the most recent percentage of new income is that with the improving US economy only 52% of the money goes to the top 1%. Oh that's all right then . Wonder what the figure is for top 3%?

So Hillary was a little flowery in the speech to make a point and used published (rather than think tank) figures from the previous years showing the top 1% took a larger percentage previously. The point is still true and if that's the best the neocons can come up with then they are in trouble.
Compared to Trumps outright lies, she is Mother Theresa.
Seems to be a different truth standard for Trump.

The point made previously by Buffet that he pays less tax than his secretary despite he does no agressive tax minimsation still holds. The rich 1% have rigged the system.
 
Knobby22 said:
According to a think tank, the latest figures, the most recent percentage of new income is that with the improving US economy only 52% of the money goes to the top 1%. Oh that's all right then . Wonder what the figure is for top 3%?

So Hillary was a little flowery in the speech to make a point and used published (rather than think tank) figures from the previous years showing the top 1% took a larger percentage previously. The point is still true and if that's the best the neocons can come up with then they are in trouble.
Compared to Trumps outright lies, she is Mother Theresa.
Seems to be a different truth standard for Trump.

The point made previously by Buffet that he pays less tax than his secretary despite he does no agressive tax minimsation still holds. The rich 1% have rigged the system.
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Was it Harvard that looked at policy passed over time 90% + driven by corporations etc the rest actual voter groups...........
 
IFocus said:
Was it Harvard that looked at policy passed over time 90% + driven by corporations etc the rest actual voter groups...........
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Not sure if it's the same study you're referring to but a study found that if you're the bottom 90%, whether you like a certain policy or not it doesn't matter - it'll just get pass, or not pass, either way.

But if you're the top 10%, if you don't like something, it'll never get pass. If you like something, then 66% of the time it'll get pass.
 
Not sure where to put this.

Hillary or Wikileaks thread...



Julian Assange: Hacked Emails Include Info On Hillary’s Arming of Jihadists, Including ISIS, in Syria​


Secretary of State Hillary Clinton knew that the US was sending arms from Libya to Syria back in 2011, a year before the Benghazi consulate attacks.

Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony (under oath) in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.

Senator Rand Paul questioned Hillary Clinton about this gun running program back in January 2013 during her testimony on the Benghazi terrorist attack.

On Tuesday Julian Assange told Democracy Now that the Wikileaks DNC emails contains information on the weapons shipments to Syria.

Julian Assange: So, those Hillary Clinton emails, they connect together with the cables that we have published of Hillary Clinton, creating a rich picture of how Hillary Clinton performs in office, but, more broadly, how the U.S. Department of State operates. So, for example, the disastrous, absolutely disastrous intervention in Libya, the destruction of the Gaddafi government, which led to the occupation of ISIS of large segments of that country, weapons flows going over to Syria, being pushed by Hillary Clinton, into jihadists within Syria, including ISIS, that’s there in those emails. There’s more than 1,700 emails in Hillary Clinton’s collection, that we have released, just about Libya alone.
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DB008 said:
Not sure where to put this.

Hillary or Wikileaks thread...

Julian Assange: Hacked Emails Include Info On Hillary’s Arming of Jihadists, Including ISIS, in Syria​


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It was Government policy.
To overthrow Syria's Government, started up by Bush and kept going by Obama till the dumclucks realised they were just sending arms to muslim extremists. The US still helps some elements of the resistance. Same story in Libya. That's worked out also! not. The US have really stuffed up and Clinton didn't have the wisdom to go against the hawks.
 
Knobby22 said:
It was Government policy.
To overthrow Syria's Government, started up by Bush and kept going by Obama till the dumclucks realised they were just sending arms to muslim extremists. The US still helps some elements of the resistance. Same story in Libya. That's worked out also! not. The US have really stuffed up and Clinton didn't have the wisdom to go against the hawks.
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Yea Bush Jr. and his bosses did plan to liberate a few more Arab states after Iraq, but since Iraq and Afghanistan didn't work out so well...

With Libya though, I heard from a few different journalists that Hillary was very hawkish on it. She brushed aside the Director of the CIA's concerns about the day after - you know you're war crazy when the CIA chief sounds like a dove next to your ballsy plans; That and after the fall of Libya, her staff were bragging and planning with her about how "the success" of Libya could be use on future campaign for president, to show her skill as liberator against Jr.'s... they kind of quiet that down once Libya goes to heck.
 
Like I said before, we are entering levels of propaganda akin to the Cold War or North Korea...


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