Is Shorten PM material?

[Ferret]

I'm no fan of Shorten, but I think it's despicable that some would seek to discredit him this way.

 

[bellenuit]

and for the record from Bill's twitter account:



I can't find any reference to sympathy for the 15 yearold or his parents on his twitter account. I also can't readily find the #ParamattaShooting ABC tweet that people have posted as fact ...anyone ??

I found it under ABC News 24 on Twitter. Scroll back to Oct 3rd. A few tweets before it says he (Shorten) was about to make an address on the shooting, so I guess the quote is from that address rather than a tweet he made. Read from the bottom up to get the correct chronological order.

BTW, I can't find any comment from Shorten regarding the police officer that was killed. Perhaps he said something at the address and the ABC didn't tweet it or it may be under another hashtag or perhaps he didn't make any comment in that respect.

 

[drsmith]

Bill Shorten's statement re-Parramatta shooting,

This is a truly shocking incident in one of Sydney’s busiest CBDs.

Our thoughts are with the family and friends of Curtis Cheng, particularly his colleagues in the NSW Police Force who are in mourning today.

As NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said this morning, there is no doubt lives were saved yesterday by the heroic actions of three Officers from the NSW Police Force.

Our thoughts are also with the family of the alleged young perpetrator. Like all Australians, they will be struggling to comprehend how someone so young could be part of such a terrible crime.

Australians should be reassured that our security and police agencies are among the best in the world and its important fans are not deterred from attending this weekend’s AFL and NRL Grand Finals.

This incident is being urgently investigated by the NSW Police Force, the NSW Coroner and security agencies. At times like this, it’s critical that we guard against dangerous division – we are stronger and safer when we stand together.

We must not surrender the very qualities and liberties that we seek to protect.

Labor will continue our bipartisan approach to the most important responsibility of government – ensuring the safety of Australian citizens.

SATURDAY, 3 OCTOBER 2015

http://billshorten.com.au/category/media_releases

 

[Tisme]

So ABC doing their own selective tweets as statement being made

 

[SirRumpole]

So ABC doing their own selective tweets as statement being made

So the ABC is biased are they ?

They may well be, but not the way a lot of people here think they are.

Shorten would be within his rights to have a crack at them for misrepresentation.

 

[Tisme]

So the ABC is biased are they ?

They may well be, but not the way a lot of people here think they are.

Shorten would be within his rights to have a crack at them for misrepresentation.

I think it's important that people here are sensible enough to get the whole story before making bold statements. Bill did not tweet those tweets and his press comments were commendable IMO....God knows one of my own has caused me great distress and I'd hate to think I would be denied the empathy of others for anxiety and hurt of something I couldn't control.

PS : I follow Bill, Mal, Julie, etc on Twitter

 

[wayneL]

The ABC know they can't win with Blll, they want him gone.

 

[sinner]

The ABC know they can't win with Blll, they want him gone.

The ABC is not a political party.

Join the evidence club wayne! All you need to do to get in is provide some evidence for your insinuation that the ABC is a mouthpiece for the Labor party.

EDIT: Disclaimer, I really really really dislike Bill Shorten as a human being and career politician.

 

[No Trust]

Shorten will never be Prime Minister.. His Union affiliations and more importantly general demeanor i.e. lack of any hint of charisma will put paid to that..

Reported rumours of affairs also cast a bad light.. If you cheat on your family you will be perceived as capable of cheating at everything else..

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...or-g-gs-daughter/story-e6freuzr-1111117539555

http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com...f-members-pregnant-shorten-calls-the-lawyers/

 

[wayneL]

The ABC is not a political party.

Join the evidence club wayne! All you need to do to get in is provide some evidence for your insinuation that the ABC is a mouthpiece for the Labor party.

EDIT: Disclaimer, I really really really dislike Bill Shorten as a human being and career politician.

Do we need any more evidence than QandA?

 

[noco]

Do we need any more evidence than QandA?

41% Greens and 32% left wing Labor are on the staff of the ABC..........enough said.

 

[sinner]

Do we need any more evidence than QandA?

For real? 60 mins of programming once a week where politicians and nutters of all walks get a platform to spout useless, trite rhetoric in response to genuine (regardless of misguided) questions from the public?

That's your evidence? Dude, have you watched Fox News ever?

May as well be claiming proof that Peppa Pig is a mouthpiece for the "four legs good, two legs bad" party

41% Greens and 32% left wing Labor are on the staff of the ABC..........enough said.

nocobot, since you were unwilling to provide a reference I went and looked it up for you

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...abc-survey-finds/story-fn59niix-1226647246897

and surprise surprise, the actual numbers say nothing of the sort. They merely represent the 34 journalists at the ABC who were willing to disclose their voting intention!

The actual numbers from the poll of course paint the full picture.

I also found a much more interesting and convincing article from Crikey which shows a vastly different story

http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/25/speaking-of-media-independence-how-does-aunty-fare/

In an attempt to see past the political mud-throwing, Crikey hunted for ex-ABC people who went on to work for Labor or the Coalition — and we’ve found the spread is pretty even. As of Tuesday morning, we’ve found 15 ex-ABC people who went on to the Labor politicians (or candidates), while 13 went to the Coalition camp.

This above finding closely echoes the findings mentioned here from 2007 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Broadcasting_Corporation#cite_note-91 .

You are distorting the numbers to suit your crazy robotic rants. Enough said.

 

[wayneL]

For real? 60 mins of programming once a week where politicians and nutters of all walks get a platform to spout useless, trite rhetoric in response to genuine (regardless of misguided) questions from the public?

That's your evidence? Dude, have you watched Fox News ever?

May as well be claiming proof that Peppa Pig is a mouthpiece for the "four legs good, two legs bad" party

I do apologize for inferring the ABC is the broadcasting arm of the ALP. It is actually a conglomeration, an axis of dark forces consisting of Greens, Socialists, Communists, Fabians, Illuminati, Men in Black, Zetas, Reptilians, Annunaki and CMFEU officials.

I don't know what Fox has to do with the ABC? :

 

[SirRumpole]

Do we need any more evidence than QandA?

Nothing wrong with Q&A. Just because people ask questions you may find discomforting doesn't mean the program is biased.

Tony Jones does a good job and he rips in to pollies of all sides.

Again , if people prefer to watch Bolt, that's up to them but it doesn't mean Q&A is biased.

 

[Tink]

Hear hear, Wayne and noco.
It should have been privatised.

On going pushing for their own agenda.

Many weren't happy with the change of Malcolm Turnbull in the Liberal Party, but the left are, and of course, their ABC.
It says it all.

As was said at the coup, we would wait and see, but my opinion hasn't changed since my last post

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/f...27364&page=386&p=883666&viewfull=1#post883666

 

[noco]

Nothing wrong with Q&A. Just because people ask questions you may find discomforting doesn't mean the program is biased.

Tony Jones does a good job and he rips in to pollies of all sides.

Again , if people prefer to watch Bolt, that's up to them but it doesn't mean Q&A is biased.

Yes, loaded questions selected by Tony Jones.......take your blimkers off Rumpy......even blind Freddie and see that....Like that Zachery Mullah or what ever his name is.

 

[Logique]

I'm not so sure Bill Shorten will make it to the election.

Within the party room, he wouldn't survive too many consecutive poor opinion polls, and may have to take the fall if the unions royal commission turns out badly.

 

[noco]

Nothing wrong with Q&A. Just because people ask questions you may find discomforting doesn't mean the program is biased.

Tony Jones does a good job and he rips in to pollies of all sides.

Again , if people prefer to watch Bolt, that's up to them but it doesn't mean Q&A is biased.

What about Paul Murray on Fox 601?...I guess you would call him biased against barnacle Bill.

Murray does a good job of exposing Shorten for what he really is...A waffling on adulteress liar......Yeah Shorten for the working people....ahla Chiquita and Clean Event...Workers were worse off but you lefties never comment on that.

 

[SirRumpole]

What about Paul Murray on Fox 601?...I guess you would call him biased against barnacle Bill.

Murray does a good job of exposing Shorten for what he really is...A waffling on adulteress liar......Yeah Shorten for the working people....ahla Chiquita and Clean Event...Workers were worse off but you lefties never comment on that.

Typical reply of a hater, bringing someones personal life (substantiated or not) into a discussion about policies.

Shame.

 

[Tisme]

What about Paul Murray on Fox 601?...I guess you would call him biased against barnacle Bill.

Murray does a good job of exposing Shorten for what he really is...A waffling on adulteress liar......Yeah Shorten for the working people....ahla Chiquita and Clean Event...Workers were worse off but you lefties never comment on that.

I wonder what the rate of divorce and adultry is these days? All of us are liars so that insult won't fly