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Knobby22

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I have been reading todays story in the Age of the torture of Mamdouh Habib in Guantonomo Bay. Of the general that ran the prison that would pick different youg "boys" from the guards to be his gay lover for the week. The rape of prisoners. How he had to watch two male guards having sex. The different methods of torture used on him as he lived in a metal cage. At least some of the Hispanic guards refused to join in with the torture and one female one gave him chocolate. The USA makes me sick. What happened to your principles??

I read a great article last week from Maureen Dowd of the New York Post that showed a Muslim who got the purple cross fighting for the USA in Afghanistan. It was said to be the trigger that convinced Colin Powell to backstab the Republicans. The poor family is crying while the Republicans do their best to say the USA is not really free for any religion.

The whole world can see that the USA is being run by incompetant idiots yet one of my former countrymen Rupert Murdoch was prepared at last election to bias everything so the Republicans would allow him to own all the TV satellites above the USA against their own monopoly ruules. No politician will attack him because of fear of what he can do. Goerge Bush got in again to the worlds detriment. The rest of the world knew George Bush was a disaster. We tried to warn you but you fell for the fact that the other guy was too "French" and anyway your media would not have let you know what the rest of the world thought.

The Americans, especially the Texans continue to vote so they can bescrewed by the elite. Tax cuts for the rich huge debt for everyone else. Highest mother / baby birth deathsw in the western world - it is better in Russia. Drugs everywhere. Loan sharks everywhere. Corruption at high level. It came out that Fannie Mae/ Freddie Mac paid corrupt Republican congressmen to hid the load crisis rather than do their job. A democracy that does not represent the people.

The people think they are the last hope for democracy in the world and are the centre of the world. They are not. They are a perversion diseased form of democracy. Their democracy is a sham controlled by vested corporate interests that have proven corrupt and have destroyed their country as well as hurting everyone else in the world.

Useless wars being fought to gain ocontrol of oilfields. Nasty tratment of their own people. Sarah Palin making rape victims by rape kits instead of supporting them. Producers of 95% opf the worlds pr0n. A media that won't discuss substance. A hospital system that is by far the worst in the world unless you are a multi billionaire. Cagewd suburbs to keep poor people out.

The USA has become a nasty awful country. I would like to think that you will give Barack Obama a chance to turn back into a decent country like you were in the 1960s. Why can't you spread the money around? Why can't you have nice cities with parks ect. like Europe and Australia? But I know you guys will shoot him. When you do, go and nuke yourself why your at it.
I know that there are many good Americans. They visit Australia and never leave because Australia has become the USA that was meant to be.

Once USA you were one of Australian's closest friend, sort of like our friendly grown up uncle. Today however, the country that calls itself the USA has become a force for evil in the world. You make me sick. You have become a nasty disease that has infected the world. You need your good people to clean the oozing sores. You need your media to become free again. You need to become a decent country.
 
hello,

man its been that way for years, it is a hole

watch SBS for a fair go of the world,

thankyou
robots
 
Shots of humility don`t go down to well with them.They just become more loud, more aggressive, more arrogant, more more more more.

Strong and humble not strong and arrogant.:cool:
 
Nice post Knobby. Its the failure to see the bleedin' obvious that is most disturbing - the failure of the media to report substance and discuss issues - the way that the Republicans and conservatives have high jacked common sense so that only rich people deserve medical help. I say Bush, Rumsfeld, Rove and especially Cheney belong in the Hague.

Read Craig Unger's books.

Brad
 
Thanks guys for your comments. I think I read one article too many this morning. Had to vent my spleen. Sorry for the numerous spelling mistakes.
 
Yes, straight talkin truth there knobby.

And don't forget also the back door underhand deals Reagan did with the Iranian hostages to win government.

History has revealed some of the stuff Bush got up to, but I'm sure in the fullness of time we'll learn more.

For humanity's sake lets hope Obama doesn't go the way of the Kennedy's.
 
Knobby, I'm not in the least disagreeing with your sentiments.

Does it necessarily makes sense to believe everything Habib says?
I'm not saying it didn't happen exactly as he describes, but we only have his word for that, don't we?
 
Knobby, I'm not in the least disagreeing with your sentiments.

Does it necessarily makes sense to believe everything Habib says?
I'm not saying it didn't happen exactly as he describes, but we only have his word for that, don't we?

The only way to hurt someone that bad is to take away their money.....................it's happening right now.

The worlds a tough place and people can be evil but the media find the worst in everything and dump it in your loungeroom every night at 6pm.
 
Knobby, I'm not in the least disagreeing with your sentiments.

Does it necessarily makes sense to believe everything Habib says?
I'm not saying it didn't happen exactly as he describes, but we only have his word for that, don't we?

It is nice that you are looking for an out however when you read it (it is in Good Weekend SMH and The AGE) you can feel it is the truth. He is proven an innocent man and some of the other news items that have leaked out including the torture camps in Poland do not make me think he is overstating.
There is nothing really sensational in it. Just the mandane evil that reminds me of the orcs in Lord of the Rings.

True, it is only his word and the word of the English captives released earlier but the guards are not allowed to speak out to co-operate. He mentions the Asio man who came to see him near when he was released who saw some of the things happen and I am sure that man knows the truth.
 
Featured on late night BBC this week...a three part commentary on the My Lai massacres in Vietnam during late 1960's.Report just released.

After a two year cover-up an inquiry was held ,led to 20,000 pages and only one junior US officer ever spent any time in custody...only a short time.
Over 500 civilians were killed and buried in excavated ditches...multiple gang rapes of girls as young as 12 years (then killed of course).
Probably regarded as unfortunate that these massacres were ever make public....how many are not.
Blessed are the peacemakers....
 
U.S.A. ----

1) what's in it for me
2) talk bull dung (for money)
3) hype situations (for money)
4) shoot each other as per constitution acceptance
5) gutless on Ukraine annexation
6) rich get richer (mass supported as per social engineering)
7) interfere in other country affairs (for money)
8) preach the law (for money)
8) source of trends (for money)
 
I have been reading todays story in the Age of the torture of Mamdouh Habib in Guantonomo Bay. The USA makes me sick. What happened to your principles??


Could not care less if a mudslime is being Tortured, all his own words anyway which is why The Age probably run it to panda to the few liberals like you that would actually 1. Buy the paper 2. Read Liberal rubbish and think it was true. As for Principals I don't trust anyone that wouldn't torture people to some extent to save lives.

As for gay lovers must be a lot of gay guards in the place. Liberals just think we can get it up on command? "You fag go and have sex with that male" Yes sir !!!! Just what I have always wanted. As for the Female who gave him Chocolate hahahaha since they are not allow tooth brushes I for one think she was Torturing him even further....
 
The interesting thing is that OP, way back in 2008, held two beliefs:

1/ The the purulent festering rot at the center of US politics is due exclusively to Republicans

2/. The Obama had the will and capabilities to change that.

Two terms later we see that neither belief is true. The Democrats are just as bad,if not worse, than the Pubs, and despite the ludicrously unbelievable rhetoric, Obama ha done nothing except further Social Democratic failures and force them on the population.

The gullible clown who supported him as messiah must be so disappointed and humiliated.
 
The interesting thing is that OP, way back in 2008, held two beliefs:

1/ The the purulent festering rot at the center of US politics is due exclusively to Republicans

2/. The Obama had the will and capabilities to change that.

Two terms later we see that neither belief is true. The Democrats are just as bad,if not worse, than the Pubs, and despite the ludicrously unbelievable rhetoric, Obama ha done nothing except further Social Democratic failures and force them on the population.

The gullible clown who supported him as messiah must be so disappointed and humiliated.

The USA is no longer acting like a nasty disease which is good. It was the torture in Poland and in the USA that got me writing this thread.

Obama couldn't achieve anything except stop the torture and stop the stupid economic/war decisions Bush kept making and improve the USA standing worldwide. Still stupid international decisions being made e.g. what was the USA thinking when they got involved with Ukraine?

Murdoch still has control with other oligarchs. This festering rot and paralysis is still mainly remaining due to the Republicans. Mish, for instance, is upset with it all.

I can't see the way out except maybe a populist from the Republicans enabling change to occur - bring on Donald Trump! You can understand why the American people are getting desperate. Any other suggestions?
 
I can't see the way out except maybe a populist from the Republicans enabling change to occur - bring on Donald Trump. Any other suggestions?

Trump will make America great again (he says), but he's a Right wing looney, just the sort of person who thinks that whatever he does is right, including torturing suspects.

His comments on Mexicans indicate that he couldn't care less about anyone except people of his own political/religious/economic demographic.
 
Anyone else think that the USA is a self regulation machine that only goes through the process of electing titular heads of state?

Obama was given a Nobel Prize because the pundits reckoned he would give impetus and momentum to the good fights of climate change, nuclear bombs and racism..... I'm not sure how the scorecard looks?
 
His comments on Mexicans indicate that he couldn't care less about anyone except people of his own political/religious/economic demographic.

Can you imagine the lump in his chest how he can't just standup for his meta-ethnic Anglo/Norman/Celtic/Saxon/Nordic whitey roots while his backers are the Jewish. :D
 
Anyone else think that the USA is a self regulation machine that only goes through the process of electing titular heads of state?

Obama was given a Nobel Prize because the pundits reckoned he would give impetus and momentum to the good fights of climate change, nuclear bombs and racism..... I'm not sure how the scorecard looks?

Yes to your first statement.

People often over estimate the powers of a U.S. President in peacetime.

In wartime they can blow up the world, but in peacetime they have to get legislation through the Congress which is as difficult as our governments getting legislation through the Senate especially if Congress is dominated by your political opponents.

The Peace Prize to Obama is a farce, the prize should be on results, not expectations.
 
The USA is no longer acting like a nasty disease which is good. It was the torture in Poland and in the USA that got me writing this thread.

Obama couldn't achieve anything except stop the torture and stop the stupid economic/war decisions Bush kept making and improve the USA standing worldwide. Still stupid international decisions being made e.g. what was the USA thinking when they got involved with Ukraine?

Murdoch still has control with other oligarchs. This festering rot and paralysis is still mainly remaining due to the Republicans. Mish, for instance, is upset with it all.

I can't see the way out except maybe a populist from the Republicans enabling change to occur - bring on Donald Trump! You can understand why the American people are getting desperate. Any other suggestions?

Knobby nothing has changed except for the public appetite for war.... Andthe Medicare disaster.

In 2008 I stated you will all be disappointed by an Obama incapable of fulfilling his messianic rhetoric.

I was spot on.
 
Imagine taking America back to when it was great:


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That can't be good for some :rolleyes:
 
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