Turnbull for PM

[Macquack]

Turnbull's biggest problem has always been, and will always be, the size of his bank balance.

According to Wikipedia he is worth $186 million, give or take $10 million (BRW Rich List 2010).

Problem is the average Australian can't relate to him on a financial level and I very much doubt Mal can relate to the struggles of Joe Average.

His highest calling is Opposition leader.

 

[sptrawler]

Turnbull's biggest problem has always been, and will always be, the size of his bank balance.

According to Wikipedia he is worth $186 million, give or take $10 million (BRW Rich List 2010).

Problem is the average Australian can't relate to him on a financial level and I very much doubt Mal can relate to the struggles of Joe Average.

His highest calling is Opposition leader.

I don't think Mr and Mrs Rudds bank balance would be anything to be sneezed at and he is supposed to be Labor.
So it seems to make the basis of your arguement somewhat flawed.

 

[Macquack]

I don't think Mr and Mrs Rudds bank balance would be anything to be sneezed at and he is supposed to be Labor.
So it seems to make the basis of your arguement somewhat flawed.

Last time I checked, Therese Rein was not Prime Minister.

Average Joe dreams about marrying a wealthy woman.

If Turnbull's wealth had come from his wife, it would look more acceptable.

 

[sptrawler]

Last time I checked, Therese Rein was not Prime Minister.

Average Joe dreams about marrying a wealthy woman.

If Turnbull's wealth had come from his wife, it would look more acceptable.

Oh, my mistake, must a mysogynist thing. eek

 

[Julia]

I guess you are right as usual. Snide remarks boof has made about me e.g. "deranged'" and "Do you work in Abbott's office or something?" and "Are you Alan Jones?" are pretty objective and not personal in your view I suppose.

Calliope, perhaps consider that those remarks were made in response to your accusation of boofhead being a great fan of Rudd or words to that effect.
I should, however, stay out of other people's fights. Just get a bit tired of unnecessary stirring.

To return to Turnbull, I think he has come a long way since the Gordon Grech affair, when he had Rudd and Swan on the ropes over misleading parliament over the Utegate affair, and let them off the hook.

He let them off the hook? That's not my memory of events. As I recall the matter, Mr Turnbull made accusations which turned out to be entirely false, so any suggestion that Turnbull let Swan and Rudd 'off the hook' is less than accurate.

From wiki:

Utegate (also known as The OzCar affair) refers to a 2009 controversy in Australian federal politics, revolving around allegations made by then Federal Leader of the Opposition and Liberal leader, Malcolm Turnbull, that the Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, and/or the Treasurer, Wayne Swan, had acted improperly on behalf of a Queensland car dealer who was seeking financial assistance from a government agency called OzCar, and that they had misled Parliament. Central to this claim was evidence by Treasury official Godwin Grech before a Senate inquiry in June 2009 that a Prime Ministerial adviser had emailed him asking for preferential treatment for the dealer. When the email's text became known, the Prime Minister labelled the email a forgery, and a subsequent police investigation confirmed that the email was never sent. On 4 August 2009, Grech admitted to forging the email.[1] The Auditor-General was also ordered to conduct an investigation. It found no evidence of corruption by the Prime Minister or the Treasurer or their respective offices,[2] but did make adverse findings against Godwin Grech, and highlighted numerous administrative failings in the Treasury.

I really wonder, Calliope, why you so insist on mischaracterising not just members of this forum but historical events.

Last time I checked, Therese Rein was not Prime Minister.

Average Joe dreams about marrying a wealthy woman.

If Turnbull's wealth had come from his wife, it would look more acceptable.

I disagree entirely. The fact that Mr Turnbull has had the capacity to put his skills to earning such a good return is absolutely a credit to him. Why on earth would it be to his detriment? Surely the country would benefit from the stewardship of someone who has demonstrated personal success and real business acumen, as distinct from the union hacks we have at present.

 

[Logique]

Repeating myself,

but Turnbull as a political leader, let alone PM? Shudder.

OMDB, i.e. Over My... etc.

 

[Calliope]

I really wonder, Calliope, why you so insist on mischaracterising not just members of this forum but historical events.

Wow!!! "mischaracterising". I'm sorry I put you to so much trouble researching my mischaracterisation of "not just members of this forum but historical events".

You seem intent on "mischaracterising" me. Please take your own advice;

I should, however, stay out of other people's fights. Just get a bit tired of unnecessary stirring

Just stop stirring.

 

[So_Cynical]

Repeating myself,

but Turnbull as a political leader, let alone PM? Shudder.

OMDB, i.e. Over My... etc.

With 2 party preferred your going to vote for him if he is leader, and as leader the Noalition is guaranteed a win and with Tony its 50/50, which would you prefer?

50/50 with Tony or 100% with Malcolm?

 

[banco]

Wow!!! "mischaracterising". I'm sorry I put you to so much trouble researching my mischaracterisation of "not just members of this forum but historical events".

You seem intent on "mischaracterising" me. Please take your own advice; Just stop stirring.

The Queensland sun must have fried what's left of your brain if you think the utegate affair was anything but a coalition beatup that was aided by a Treasury official who'd gone over the edge.

 

[Logique]

With 2 party preferred your going to vote for him if he is leader, and as leader the Noalition is guaranteed a win and with Tony its 50/50, which would you prefer?
50/50 with Tony or 100% with Malcolm?

Fair comment SC, it's just that I couldn't bring myself to vote Fox for a seat in hen house.

It's an analogy Labor might think about in the case of El Rudd, although he's only there for the election. Which everybody knows, except him and Ms Rein, that noted benefactor of the unemployed, which seems in her case to be a lucrative endeavour, having offshored her business.

Unemployment is lucrative for the Rudd-Rein family.

 

[springhill]

Average Joe dreams about marrying a wealthy woman.

What a ridiculously pathetic statement.

 

[Sean K]

Thank The Lord the Labour experiment is over. What an absolute shambles.

Hopefully now a clean transition to Turnbull after the dust settles.

 

[Julia]

Thank The Lord the Labour experiment is over. What an absolute shambles.

Hopefully now a clean transition to Turnbull after the dust settles.

You're not even going to be open minded enough to give Tony Abbott a go?
No memory of how hopeless Turnbull was when he had his opportunity as Leader?
What is it about Mr Turnbull which so inspires you?

 

[springhill]

You're not even going to be open minded enough to give Tony Abbott a go?
No memory of how hopeless Turnbull was when he had his opportunity as Leader?
What is it about Mr Turnbull which so inspires you?

I agree Julia, I don't particularly like Turnbull.

The Libs have had this election in the bag for a long time and he continually did just enough to let everyone know he wasn't happy with the content of his portfolio or the direction the party was taking without having the ticker to come out and say it.

Not a team player.

 

[drsmith]

No memory of how hopeless Turnbull was when he had his opportunity as Leader?

In terms of being a politician, that internet sensorship policy that emerged from one of his underlings two evenings before polling day wasn't exactly a positive.

 

[So_Cynical]

Not a team player.

One of the election commentators pointed out the fact that MT lost the leadership by 1 vote and yet "put his sword away" and accepted the vote and didn't undermine Tony even though with a 1 vote margin he would be well within acceptable norms to do so.

And yet you claim he is not a team player...even though he clearly took one for the team.

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Just no pleasing some people.

 

[drsmith]

One of the election commentators pointed out the fact that MT lost the leadership by 1 vote and yet "put his sword away" and accepted the vote and didn't undermine Tony even though with a 1 vote margin he would be well within acceptable norms to do so.

And yet you claim he is not a team player...even though he clearly took one for the team.

MT wasn't a team player until the beginning of this year. From that point, he's become more pragmatic about his prospects.

He's a valuable asset to the Coalition if he can continue to play as part of the team, but he doesn't have the political acumen to be party leader.

 

[springhill]

One of the election commentators pointed out the fact that MT lost the leadership by 1 vote and yet "put his sword away" and accepted the vote and didn't undermine Tony even though with a 1 vote margin he would be well within acceptable norms to do so.

And yet you claim he is not a team player...even though he clearly took one for the team.

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Just no pleasing some people.

You are obviously forgetting/ignoring his public popularity rating at the time.

You only see one aspect of the contest between Abbott/Turnbull, with that one eye of yours.

Sorry I circumvented the ignore list to view this post, won't make that mistake again.

 

[Sean K]

You're not even going to be open minded enough to give Tony Abbott a go?
No memory of how hopeless Turnbull was when he had his opportunity as Leader?
What is it about Mr Turnbull which so inspires you?

Yes, sorry, I hope Tony develops into the role and becomes more statesman-like.

I want a Prime Minister who does not embarrass us. That's all.

But, I'm more embarrassed that a motor sport enthusiast and a pro-gun moron look like they've been voted in. I'm vexed.

 

[drsmith]

I hope Tony develops into the role and becomes more statesman-like.

He's gone from Mr unelectable to Prime Minister elect.

That's a good start.