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tech/a said:
Adelaide won't make the 8 this year.
I'm a crows supporter and I certainly don't see
The fire or a structure that they left last season with.

Tippett gone is a huge loss. The forward line has Walker not Franklin
As the spear head. They need a multi pronged attack. The worst is
Yet to come for the crows.less than 50% wins is my prediction.

Thought I watched 2 mediocre sides crank up last might.
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Adelaide over achieved last year on the back of one of the easier draws going around. Last year 2 games against port, gc, gws and melb would have helped most sides advance deep into finals. Don't forget, the Crows only just beat the Dons by 4 points in Adelaide, late last year when Essendon were in the middle if their death spiral. As much as I don't rate Tippett very highly, he was a good foil for Walker. Adelaide probably are mediocre.

Last year Essendon were everything from very good to abysmal. We'll have to wait and see how they go before we rate them. I think they looked a more balanced side this year. The addition of Kommer, Goddard and the continued improvement of Merrett, Howlett, Carlisle, Bellchambers and getting Dempsey back from injury suggests better results than last year. And how good is Watson? He is such an improved player!

Our midfield now looks much stronger, and our back line is also taking shape. The last piece of the puzzle is a functioning forward line. If we ever get one ...........look out! As for being mediocre, we beat one last night, so we must be rated higher than that!;)

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
The last piece of the puzzle is a functioning forward line. If we ever get one ...........look out!

Duckman
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Agree. I don't think Ryder is a CHF (better CHB) and I don't think anything about Hurley. Hurley looks like going down as the ultimate underachiever.

Impressed with Howlett and Dempsey last night.
 
kennas said:
Agree. I don't think Ryder is a CHF (better CHB) and I don't think anything about Hurley. Hurley looks like going down as the ultimate underachiever.

Impressed with Howlett and Dempsey last night.
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Kepler could help.
 
Bomber fans are probably fed up with the subject,

and I don't see that many Essendon games, but on Friday I was left wondering, what is Michael Hurley's best position? On what I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) he isn't convincing as a CHF.

He's so athletic, but where best to play him? He'd be a decent winger I reckon, but more inclined to go forward. He can mark and kick, so I guess it's the forward line somewhere.
 
Logique said:
and I don't see that many Essendon games, but on Friday I was left wondering, what is Michael Hurley's best position? On what I've seen (which admittedly isn't much) he isn't convincing as a CHF.

He's so athletic, but where best to play him? He'd be a decent winger I reckon, but more inclined to go forward. He can mark and kick, so I guess it's the forward line somewhere.
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I think plays too short for key position. I think he's only 4cm taller than Jobe, but about the same as J Riewaldt. He's a lead up forward but hardly takes a mark. Being a good competitor just isn't enough. He either needs goals, or he needs to be up the ground getting possessions. He's probably played his best footy in the back line, but there's no spots left there now with Goddard joining the back 6. On a wing would be interesting, but I'm not sure he's got the tank.
 
kennas said:
I think plays too short for key position. I think he's only 4cm taller than Jobe, but about the same as J Riewaldt. He's a lead up forward but hardly takes a mark. Being a good competitor just isn't enough. He either needs goals, or he needs to be up the ground getting possessions. He's probably played his best footy in the back line, but there's no spots left there now with Goddard joining the back 6. On a wing would be interesting, but I'm not sure he's got the tank.
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I'm not sure what to think. He reminds me of Shane Watson. Everyone comments on his "massive potential" and his " wonderful athletic ability", but it doesn't always translate on the field. I think he would best in the back line and I've seen some of his best games played there (see st Kilda when he played on nick r). Unfortunately his position in the forward line is more due to the lack of other alternatives. Last year, if Hurley wasn't playing there, who is up there? Crameri and gumby were injured and Ryder isn't a proven goal kicker. Hopefully a daniher/crameri/Ryder forward lie works better.

Duckman
 
Duckman#72 said:
I'm not sure what to think. He reminds me of Shane Watson. Everyone comments on his "massive potential" and his " wonderful athletic ability", but it doesn't always translate on the field. I think he would best in the back line and I've seen some of his best games played there (see st Kilda when he played on nick r). Unfortunately his position in the forward line is more due to the lack of other alternatives. Last year, if Hurley wasn't playing there, who is up there? Crameri and gumby were injured and Ryder isn't a proven goal kicker. Hopefully a daniher/crameri/Ryder forward lie works better.

Duckman
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+1 on 'wonderful athletic ability' tag. Become sick of the commentators always saying how amazing he is and yet the results don't prove it. He's a dud so far. It's unbelievable that the club forked out gazillions for a long term contract on 'potential'. So far, he's still not worth a first year player.

Last night, in a winning team, he scored 55 Super Coach points. Kommer had 70. Myers 91.
 
Miss Hale said:
Danger game for the Dons ;) Looking forward to Melborne playing a blinder like they did last year :D

(Disclosure, Hawthorn supporter...I will go away now :p: )
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I understand.

You and Dermie will never forgive us beating the crap out of you in the 80's.
 
Well, that was embarrassing Melbourne. Shocking effort. I don't think Essendon should take any credit for those four points. A good training run anyway. Neeld on thin ice.
 
kennas said:
Well, that was embarrassing Melbourne. Shocking effort. I don't think Essendon should take any credit for those four points. A good training run anyway. Neeld on thin ice.
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Melbourne were abysmal weren't they? I didn't see last week's game so thought much of the post match commentary may have been exaggerated, but after last night...blimey! How low can you go? :eek:

Good percentage booster for Essendon which may come in handy later in the year.
 
Miss Hale said:
Melbourne were abysmal weren't they? I didn't see last week's game so thought much of the post match commentary may have been exaggerated, but after last night...blimey! How low can you go? :eek:

Good percentage booster for Essendon which may come in handy later in the year.
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Interesting game on Friday. Really see where the boys are at. Carn the bombers.

Duckman
 
More drama for the Bombers, you have my sympathy (no sarcasm intended). I hope Hird doesn't stand down just because that Dank bloke has made allegations about him. I don't want to see this whole drugs thing derail the 2013 season. I just want this to go away and for Melbourne to start being competative and we can all enjoy the footy without all this crap :frown:
 
Miss Hale said:
More drama for the Bombers, you have my sympathy (no sarcasm intended). I hope Hird doesn't stand down just because that Dank bloke has made allegations about him. I don't want to see this whole drugs thing derail the 2013 season. I just want this to go away and for Melbourne to start being competative and we can all enjoy the footy without all this crap :frown:
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Yes I think most people don't want to believe that Hirdy has taken illegal substances.

Dank's statements over the past 2 months have been contradictory. One moment he is saying that nothing he gave was illegal, the next minute he admits to injecting illegal supplements. Up until now there had been very little noise from whistleblowers over the Bombers supplement regime. From the outside world it was looking relatively clean for the Bombers, but who would have thought the whistleblower would be Dank himself!

Makes you wonder why Dank would come out now? Let's assume it is true. Have ASADA questioned him, and he has admitted it and is just making public his admission.

Dank would have to know how big this story would be. Even people who hate Hirdy, like him :). Mud sticks and I hope this isn't true for Hirdy's sake. If Dank's career wasn't trashed before, it certainly will be now - it is footballs version of a suicide bomber. Even if Hirdy is guilty, I doubt many football people will take delight over his demise.

Duckman
 
Looks like Hirdy's vainer than we thought. Taking drugs to make him looked tanned and hopefully age slower. I thought he was smarter than that to accept such flim flam. And Bomber Thompson is getting off likely at present imo.
 
Clearly the organisation of Essendon has brought the game into disrepute and need to be kicked out for 2 years. Then have the all the coaching staff and management positions cut and ran by the AFL for a further 5 years. I feel for the players ONLY. Hird has, at best, been way out of his league. Clearly there is something rotten in that place.
 
I think Danny Corcoran smells as he is deeply involved and hasn't a good history.

(just an opinion).
 
MrBurns said:
They've now released text messages that put Hird right in it, don't know how he can get out of this now.

Great shame, he is one of the VFL's greatest players..........ever.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-...7s-involvement-in-supplements-program/4624050
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I didn't see anything in those text messages that was incriminating:confused: He referred to the supplement programme which he has never denied knowing about, there is no mention of anything illegal.

Kudos for Essendon for not bowing to the baying of the media who were all saying Hird must stand down. Love it when all those sanctimonious fools are wrong :rolleyes:

(Can't believe I'm sticking up for the Bombers :eek: )
 
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