World War III: Has it Started?

[Garpal Gumnut]

I was thinking much about the mostly European and North American workers killed in Algeria by the Al Qaeda thug, and his henchmen, whose name I thankfully have not committed to memory.

It made me think that the West needs to adopt a similar ethic as it did in WW11.

Civilians are going to be casualties in this war.

We need to harden up to this fact.

Our lives have been so changed by a small bunch of irresponsible extreme hostile Islamists, since 9/11, that at some stage we have to say, enough is enough.

Get rid of all the stupid ineffective airport security and ban on toothpaste bigger than 99g.

And there will be civilian casualties.

We cannot have them change our freedoms and way of life, there is no safe place against them.

This is inevitable in a just war against fascism.

We just need to go after the bastards, wherever they lie.

gg

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

The French seem to have been more proactive in this new concept of war.

They are in to Mali and will sort it out.

gg

 

[drsmith]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

Get rid of all the stupid ineffective airport security and ban on toothpaste bigger than 99g.

Sorry GG. I have to disagree with that.

Toothpaste bigger than 99g typically offers better value per unit volume.

 

[Sean K]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

I'm not sure, gg.

No clear alliances between major powers yet. Especially on the 'other side'. Who has signed up to mutual support in total war? Only all of our mates, backed by the greatest military power ever.

These Islamist side shows are just that. Minor skirmishes, in perspective.

Give China 10 more years and....ouch.

Having said that, world war is very different in the age of the 'strategic corporal.'

 

[CanOz]

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Give China 10 more years and....ouch.

Really? They are an aggressor in 10 years time? What, like the US Kennas?

CanOz

 

[sydboy007]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

I'm sick of people making a problem that generally doesn't exist. All the we can't do that because it might offend <insert what ever group(s)> and the community is the poorer for it.

Yet when you ask who has been offended, generally no one knows. Plain stupid.

We're appeasing the demands of a minority without getting anything return which allows the radical Muslims to set the agenda. A perfect example was the recent decision by British government no longer to teach the Holocaust in its school system because it offends some Muslims

Any of the idiotic arab prostestors who think beheading is the only answer to just about anything, then I support a tax pay funded 1 way ticket to a country where you can find others who have a similar attitude to yours.

Just don't tar them all with the same brush. i have many muslim friends and they're sick of the activity of the religious nutters just as much as we are.

My hope is the west will wean itself off middle east oil quick smart. I long for the day when we close our borders to these countries and give them a few hundred years to get thru their continuing dark ages. Maybe 50 years into their enlightenment / reformation we can start to trade and intermingle.

If this makes me racist or bigoted, well i'll take the label, as long as these idiots start admitting their suicide murders and haven't had any social progress for a couple of Millenia.

I truly hope we can avoid the clash of civilisations, but am growing pessimistic that it will be forced upon us.

 

[CanOz]

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Lulz...another thread about Muslims....

 

[DB008]

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I'm sick of people making a problem that generally doesn't exist. All the we can't do that because it might offend <insert what ever group(s)> and the community is the poorer for it.

Yet when you ask who has been offended, generally no one knows. Plain stupid.

We're appeasing the demands of a minority without getting anything return which allows the radical Muslims to set the agenda. A perfect example was the recent decision by British government no longer to teach the Holocaust in its school system because it offends some Muslims

Any of the idiotic arab prostestors who think beheading is the only answer to just about anything, then I support a tax pay funded 1 way ticket to a country where you can find others who have a similar attitude to yours.

Just don't tar them all with the same brush. i have many muslim friends and they're sick of the activity of the religious nutters just as much as we are.

My hope is the west will wean itself off middle east oil quick smart. I long for the day when we close our borders to these countries and give them a few hundred years to get thru their continuing dark ages. Maybe 50 years into their enlightenment / reformation we can start to trade and intermingle.

If this makes me racist or bigoted, well i'll take the label, as long as these idiots start admitting their suicide murders and haven't had any social progress for a couple of Millenia.

I truly hope we can avoid the clash of civilisations, but am growing pessimistic that it will be forced upon us.

+1

Also,

If this makes me racist

It's not a race, it's a stupid submissive ideology.

 

[sydboy007]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

+1

Also,
It's not a race, it's a stupid submissive ideology.

I've come to the conclusion only white people are racist.

A for WWIII...Israel feels cornered enough to piss of the yanks by increasing their housing in disputed areas. At some point they're going to think to bomb some of the main Iranian nuclear facilities. I really don't like to think that in 15-20 years we could have a multi nuculear armed middle east, but seems we are headed that way.

 

[DB008]

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I've come to the conclusion only white people are racist.

I think I missed your - or sarcasm ????

I work with black African people, they are some of the most racist people l know. Hate white people, with a passion.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

I was thinking much about the mostly European and North American workers killed in Algeria by the Al Qaeda thug, and his henchmen, whose name I thankfully have not committed to memory.

It made me think that the West needs to adopt a similar ethic as it did in WW11.

Civilians are going to be casualties in this war.

We need to harden up to this fact.

Our lives have been so changed by a small bunch of irresponsible extreme hostile Islamists, since 9/11, that at some stage we have to say, enough is enough.

Get rid of all the stupid ineffective airport security and ban on toothpaste bigger than 99g.

And there will be civilian casualties.

We cannot have them change our freedoms and way of life, there is no safe place against them.

This is inevitable in a just war against fascism.

We just need to go after the bastards, wherever they lie.

gg

Sometimes in the fog of replies the content and intent of the original post is lost.

This is not about racism, godbothering of the Allah type, or hatred of any nationality.

It is about the ability of the extreme hostile Islamists to kidnap, murder and torture civilians anywhere in this world, from London to Madrid, Algeria to Bali.

It is about an intent to impose fascism upon other states and cultures.

It is done with the tacit or complicit assistance of states such as Iran, Pakistan and others, and in my view a WWW 111 has started.

The Chinese are as sick and tired of it as the US.

World wars make strange bedfellows.

Just look at WW11.

We in the West need to, as well as fighting this fascism, ensure that our lifestyle and values remain intact, that we travel freely and not become constipated by ridiculous security measures at our airports and borders, designed to give an appearance of busyness without the security of protection.

And in the process, unfortunately, civilians will be injured and lost.

Less so hopefully in the long run, than are at present with the softly softly approach.

gg

 

[Sean K]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

Really? They are an aggressor in 10 years time? What, like the US Kennas?

CanOz

Yes, like the US, eventually. Maybe 20 or 30 years... Do you not think with their new found economic and eventual military might they will not want to influence other countries in the region into doing what is in their own best interest? They will also have some responsibility to assist the international community in keeping the peace abroad in places such as Africa where they will have significant economic interest I think. Maybe they'll just be international nice guys?

 

[IFocus]

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Yes, like the US, eventually. Maybe 20 or 30 years...

Only if their political system maintains stability.

 

[Sean K]

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Only if their political system maintains stability.

Yes, I read a pretty interesting book recently called The Next 100 Years, by George....someone. A very respected futurist. He predicts they'll break up and the US maintains it's dominance with a war between the US and Mexico likely...

edit: just googled it:

By George Friedman

A fascinating, eye-opening and often shocking look at what lies ahead for the U.S. and the world from one of our most incisive futurists.

In his thought-provoking new book, George Friedman, founder of STRATFOR””the preeminent private intelligence and forecasting firm””focuses on what he knows best, the future. Positing that civilization is at the dawn of a new era, he offers a lucid, highly readable forecast of the changes we can expect around the world during the twenty-first century all based on his own thorough analysis and research. For example, The U.S.-Jihadist war will be replaced by a new cold war with Russia; China’s role as a world power will diminish; Mexico will become an important force on the geopolitical stage; and new technologies and cultural trends will radically alter the way we live (and fight wars). Riveting reading from first to last, The Next 100 Years is a fascinating exploration of what the future holds for all of us.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

Yes, I read a pretty interesting book recently called The Next 100 Years, by George....someone. A very respected futurist. He predicts they'll break up and the US maintains it's dominance with a war between the US and Mexico likely...

edit: just googled it:

By George Friedman

A fascinating, eye-opening and often shocking look at what lies ahead for the U.S. and the world from one of our most incisive futurists.

In his thought-provoking new book, George Friedman, founder of STRATFOR””the preeminent private intelligence and forecasting firm””focuses on what he knows best, the future. Positing that civilization is at the dawn of a new era, he offers a lucid, highly readable forecast of the changes we can expect around the world during the twenty-first century all based on his own thorough analysis and research. For example, The U.S.-Jihadist war will be replaced by a new cold war with Russia; China’s role as a world power will diminish; Mexico will become an important force on the geopolitical stage; and new technologies and cultural trends will radically alter the way we live (and fight wars). Riveting reading from first to last, The Next 100 Years is a fascinating exploration of what the future holds for all of us.

Futurists are a dime a dozen.

Just look at the Global Warming Hysteria thread.

Here's a futurist from one year before the outbreak of WW11.

His name was was Neville Chamberlain, and he was PM of the UK at the time, so he must have known more than the average Joe.



gg

 

[DB008]

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STRATFOR””the preeminent private intelligence and forecasting firm””focuses on what he knows best, the future.

And where the term 'pwned' came from - http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/03/inside-the-hacking-of-stratfor-the-fbis-case-against-antisec-member-anarchaos/

 

[Sean K]

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Futurists are a dime a dozen.

Just look at the Global Warming Hysteria thread.

gg

Yep, and this one.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

At last, the West is about to take the fight to the cowardly extreme Islamist terrorists.

From the UK Independent.

David Cameron has warned that a diplomatic response would not be enough to tackle the growing terrorist threat in north Africa and that a “robust security response” must be deployed.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/david-cameron-declares-support-for-robust-security-responseto-counter-growing-threat-of-terrorism-in-north-africa-as-30-foreign-hostages-including-12-britons-are-thought-to-be-dead-or-missing-in-the-sahara-desert-8457456.html

There will be civilian casualties in this war.

Up until now the West has been hamstrung by a response that supported appeasement and negotiation.

In the long run, enlightened ideas will win out against fascism.

gg

 

[IFocus]

Re: World War 111 Has it Started

Yes, I read a pretty interesting book recently called The Next 100 Years, by George....someone. A very respected futurist. He predicts they'll break up and the US maintains it's dominance with a war between the US and Mexico likely...

edit: just googled it:

By George Friedman

A fascinating, eye-opening and often shocking look at what lies ahead for the U.S. and the world from one of our most incisive futurists.

In his thought-provoking new book, George Friedman, founder of STRATFOR””the preeminent private intelligence and forecasting firm””focuses on what he knows best, the future. Positing that civilization is at the dawn of a new era, he offers a lucid, highly readable forecast of the changes we can expect around the world during the twenty-first century all based on his own thorough analysis and research. For example, The U.S.-Jihadist war will be replaced by a new cold war with Russia; China’s role as a world power will diminish; Mexico will become an important force on the geopolitical stage; and new technologies and cultural trends will radically alter the way we live (and fight wars). Riveting reading from first to last, The Next 100 Years is a fascinating exploration of what the future holds for all of us.

Haven't read his latest book but do read a bit of his stuff, find the basis for some of his geopolitical commentary quite interesting particularly the history of rather than future predictions.

 

[sydboy007]

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I think I missed your - or sarcasm ????

I work with black African people, they are some of the most racist people l know. Hate white people, with a passion.

I suppose I should have, but to me the main stream media only ever reports racism when it's a white person.

I would argue a lot of the Islamofacism is based around racism against anyone not considered Arab enough. You only have to see how the Jordanians and Kuwaitis lord it over the locals in Malaysia when they head there for holidays. They go there because it's a Muslim country, but they're not quite "pure" enough for them.