The Gillard Government

[trainspotter]

I listened to the Red Queen on the Telly this morning for about 2 mins. I then got a nasty taste in my mouth and had to remove the contents of my stomach into the porcelain.

 

[Calliope]

Ah. Of course, it's all Abbott's fault according to Conroy.

So what's the now-slightly-more-minority government to do? Could they (a) blame Tony Abbott; (b) blame Tony Abbott; (c) blame Tony Abbott; or - wildcard - (d) blame the Wiggles? Let's see how Communications Minister Stephen Conroy handled this dilemma yesterday: "What's really rich is Tony Abbott, a man who could deliver the numbers, stopping a promise being delivered, then saying a promise has been broken." That was probably the most solid choice, but it would have been fun to see Conroy try the Wiggles angle.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/opinion/no-wiggling-out/story-e6frgdk6-1226250755356

 

[Logique]

Ouch! And in the Love Media too. Context of the backdown on pokies.

Why we can't trust Gillard any more
Michael Short [a senior Age editor], January 25, 2012

"Public policy driven by ideology, rather than the intellectualism so neatly encapsulated by the late Lord Keynes, is the antithesis of what we should be seeking.....There has been an inversion; the real leadership is coming from the community, a community that has left Gillard behind..."

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/polit...rd-any-more-20120124-1qfo0.html#ixzz1kQYPDLvQ

 

[Calliope]

Craig Thomson obviously knows what the outcome of FWA's investigation will be, hence his smug look

THE warning from Health Services Union secretary Kathy Jackson that Fair Work Australia's investigation into Labor MP Craig Thomson's expenses while HSU secretary could be open to political manipulation demands that the government urge FWA to complete its investigation without delay.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...-demands-answers/story-e6frg71x-1226252811704

 

[sptrawler]

I don't know who Miranda Devine is, but she certainly supports the theory, you can't blame Tony for everything. When you are the government and can't govern.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...rds-nose-itch/comments-e6frezz0-1226253777213

What about about Albanese saying he hasn't seen the movie and it was the speech writer.
Just shows, you only have to be able to read, to get a politicians pension.

 

[Julia]

For anyone who hasn't heard about Albo's plagiarism of a Hollywood movie script in his address to the Press Club, here is what happened:
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8408848/albanese-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech

Pretty embarrassing for Labor.

 

[Wysiwyg]

Gee it looked like an assassination attempt on Julia and I notice Tony in close quarters during the evacuation. Sad to see hatred manifested toward our pollies.

 

[sptrawler]

Gee it looked like an assassination attempt on Julia and I notice Tony in close quarters during the evacuation. Sad to see hatred manifested toward our pollies.

That Wyslstick, was pretty average. Didn't look good, maybe the government should lay bare how much is spent on trying to fix the indigenous problem.
I am sure it would put it in a different light.

Can't wait for the British to start asking Italy for compensation for the Roman invasion.
Maybe China can get stuck into Russia for Genghis Khan.
Brazil, Chilli and South America in general should be really getting stuck into Spain, they were really nasty.

Not being funny, but it would be interesting to see the aboriginal plight if Japan had taken Australia in the second world war.
If Japan and Germany had been successful in world domination, rather than the British/ U.S coalition. It would be very interesting to see how the radical minority groups would have been treated.
Funny how we want the compassionate to fight for us, then want to turn that compassion against them.
That is because it is seen as a weakness when they are friends IMO

 

[Wysiwyg]

Can't wait for the British to start asking Italy for compensation for the Roman invasion.
Maybe China can get stuck into Russia for Genghis Khan.
Brazil, Chilli and South America in general should be really getting stuck into Spain, they were really nasty.

The American Indian has the greatest case of all. As you see, white man speak with forked tongue. Yet you see black African/Americans claiming compensation (subtly) for slavery and getting it.

 

[sptrawler]

The American Indian has the greatest case of all. As you see, white man speak with forked tongue. Yet you see black African/Americans claiming compensation (subtly) for slavery and getting it.

I think if the facts are explained, you will find the indigenous australians are getting it also. One just has to ask, is the compensation getting through or being syphoned off.
Also, of the money that does get through, how much is saved or spent wisely?
If you doubled the money it wouldn't change the outcome.
IMO if you spent 10 times more money on the issue all it would do would increase the corruption and decrease the life expectancy. My opinions only, not based on anything other than my personal experience living in remote areas.

 

[Wysiwyg]

I think if the facts are explained, you will find the indigenous australians are getting it also. One just has to ask, is the compensation getting through or being syphoned off.

Wherever money is involved, corruption and misuse aren't too far away. The ones claiming the world owes them and they have been hard done by are pretty shallow types. No one owes anyone anything. Just squeezin the government teat.

 

[sptrawler]

The American Indian has the greatest case of all. As you see, white man speak with forked tongue. Yet you see black African/Americans claiming compensation (subtly) for slavery and getting it.

Also as for the qoute white man speak with forked tongue.
Do you think the Japs spoke the truth when they used local slave labour on the Burma railroad, we get annoyed because 30,000 allied prisoners died on it, well 200,000 locals died on it.
How many hotentots have been enslaved or killed by zulu's.
The only reason the black African/Americans are claiming compensation and are getting it is because British based culture has compassion.
I don't see Thailand claiming and getting compensation from Japan.
I don't see the Jews getting a lot of compensation from Germany.
The only ones who got compensation for the second world war was America, who got the lend lease from England, which gave them free access to British patents. I think Britain was only released from the lend lease recently.
But do you hear Britain saying, we were screwed over to finance saving the rest of the world.
History is full of injusticies, it is just some people move on and get over it and others want to milk it.IMO

 

[Wysiwyg]

History is full of injusticies, it is just some people move on and get over it and others want to milk it.IMO

While we're on injustices, how many nasties in the world live in opulence, have well payed jobs, have chicks hangin off them, have people kissin their ass and cause suffering for a few to millions of people?

As the song goes ... "steal a little and they throw you in jail, steal a lot and they make you king."

End rave, g' night.

 

[joea]

Wherever money is involved, corruption and misuse aren't too far away. The ones claiming the world owes them and they have been hard done by are pretty shallow types. No one owes anyone anything. Just squeezin the government teat.

I think we could safely say that wherever there is money involved, corruption is hand in hand. Especially where it involves Government funds.
Because of our unfair tax system, fraud (big or small) has "become a blood sport".
I have no answer to eliminate it, but I think the parties that will be elected shortly have a responsibility to reduce it.
If they cannot, we can safely say "tax breaks" will just be covered somewhere else in the system. i.e. they will give with one hand and immediately take it back with the other.(in Labors case give $1 and take back $1.20 because of bad decisions. They may then understand it applies to their household also.

The Australian voter has to be made to understand that the budget should be balanced, and not to be allowed to run in to an unaccountable "deficit".
joea

 

[moXJO]

Gee it looked like an assassination attempt on Julia and I notice Tony in close quarters during the evacuation. Sad to see hatred manifested toward our pollies.

That was a case of hatred towards whites, jumping on something and twisting it into another 'Im a victim' story. They sent the efforts of those who have been working behind the scenes for equality back about 20 years.

 

[Logique]

That was a case of hatred towards whites, jumping on something and twisting it into another 'Im a victim' story. They sent the efforts of those who have been working behind the scenes for equality back about 20 years.

Very ill advised and counter productive actions yesterday. Rightly condemned this morning by Warren Mundine and by an ATSIC Commissioner.

Chalk another one up for Australia Day. Always good feelings around Anzac Day and Melbourne Cup day, but Australia Day usually manages some sort of incident.

 

[breaker]

I wonder where aboriginals would be if we did'nt "invade"

 

[Logique]

That's our shoeless Prime Minister there. Some image to send around the world on Australia Day. I was told on another thread to get a grip. Fortunately that security officer has a good grip on the PM.
PM Gillard on the day saw to the safety of the Opposition Leader, which was appropriate.
Pic from: http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/

 

[moXJO]

lol

“So who to blame this time for the “climate of hate"?"

Climatologists have determined that man-made global warming causes climates of hate.

 

[Calliope]

That's our shoeless Prime Minister there. Some image to send around the world on Australia Day. I was told on another thread to get a grip

Apparently not too many members are concerned about the Australia Day riots. I posted yesterday my thoughts (on the Australia Day Flag thread) and only got one response. To see our PM being treated like tihis brings shame on us all. The laid back attitude over this disgraceful riot is surprising.

More surprising is that no charges are being laid although ereryone knows the chief instigator of the riot. She boasts about it. Barbara Shaw, a Greens activist, deliberately spread the lies about what Mr Abbott said, and told her worked up audience where to find him.

Blame Abbott for everything is now the catch cry, and even most of the news media last night and this morning were calling Abbott the catalyst.

At the tent embassy, a few hundred metres down King George Terrace from The Lobby, nearly 1000 had gathered to celebrate the 40th anniversary of the land rights protest that never ended. Dogs roamed the crowd and children were playing peacefully.

At 2.27pm, Abbott's comments - or a mangled version of them - were relayed to the crowd over a loud speaker. Abbott, elder Barbara Shaw told her audience, wanted to tear down their precious site. Anger spread. "Where is he?" yelled two young women near the front of the crowd by the traditional firepit.

Shaw knew Abbott was at The Lobby, having arrived about half an hour earlier for an Australia Day function with Gillard to recognise emergency services people. "He's that way!" she shouted.

Enraged, the two thirtysomething women - Marianne Mackay and Selina Davey-Newry - called on more than 100 activists to converge on the glass-walled restaurant. Minutes later the mob arrived.

(My bolds)

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...er-security-tent/story-fn9hm1pm-1226254784804

Barbara Shaw