Can Malcolm Turnbull rise from the ashes?

[MrBurns]

Burns has a PhD in that.

Dr Burns.

Gee haven't heard from you in a while, it seems you're out now, are they cleaning your cage ?

 

[Julia]

Labor now wants an Senate Privalige's Committee enquiry into the fake E-Mail, however according to the Insiders program this morning, Labor may change it's mind for fear of what dirt may come out against them.

Labor should quit while it's ahead on this. They have made good political capital out of Mr Turnbull's error. The public have now had enough of it.
If they keep this up, they risk eroding their margin.

The one thing I would like to see Turnbull do is "CAN" this stupid ETS scheme as Barnaby Joyce said this morning " it is nothing more than a Tax Grab, it will cost thousands of jobs, it will send work overseas, it will add $75 TO THE COST PER HEAD OF CATTLE and do absolutely nothing to reduce Green House Emmissions".

It sounds as though the Libs have overcome their fear or producing a double dissolution trigger and have decided to vote against this. I think time is not on the government's side on this legislation as more contradictors of the effectiveness of the scheme are replacing the warm fuzzies of saving the environment.
The following is an extract from Irwin Steizer, a US economist, yesterday:
he was discussing the tasks ahead of President Obama.

He also has to persuade voters to press their senators to back the House approved cap-and-trade plan to reduce Co2 emissions. That chore was made more difficult when Jairam Ramesh, India's Environment Minister, told Secretary of Stage Hillary Clinton that his country would not even consider limiting its greenhouse gas emissions until 2020, if then.

Like China, India points out that Europe is not meeting its Kyoto commitments, and America is a major polluter. India's position means that nothing the Senate can do will affect global warming - and the high cost of limiting US emissions would merely be an act of economic masochism.

We can surely say the same about any efforts Australia might make.

 

[noco]

Labor should quit while it's ahead on this. They have made good political capital out of Mr Turnbull's error. The public have now had enough of it.
If they keep this up, they risk eroding their margin.




It sounds as though the Libs have overcome their fear or producing a double dissolution trigger and have decided to vote against this. I think time is not on the government's side on this legislation as more contradictors of the effectiveness of the scheme are replacing the warm fuzzies of saving the environment.
The following is an extract from Irwin Steizer, a US economist, yesterday:
he was discussing the tasks ahead of President Obama.



We can surely say the same about any efforts Australia might make.

Well Julia, lets hope the "CHEMO" that our sceptic friends are applying to the "CANCER" ridden alarmist takes effect before it destroys us all. The CO2 emmissions these bar*?#rds keep harping on about and who are being proven wrong over and over again by some 30,000 scientist is a lot of hot air.

I am optimistic, like your good self, that more and more people will see the light of day and put an end to this crazy "whoop whoop belong bulla ma cow," as they say in PNG, to an end! I wish Malcolm Turnbull would do a 180 degree turn and side with the Nationals and reject the whole bill in it's entirety in the lower house and the senate. I believe if he did, a lot of people would say "yes, this man has the judgement and character we would all like to see in a future Prime Minister of Australia".

 

[Calliope]

I wish Malcolm Turnbull would do a 180 degree turn and side with the Nationals and reject the whole bill in it's entirety in the lower house and the senate. I believe if he did, a lot of people would say "yes, this man has the judgement and character we would all like to see in a future Prime Minister of Australia".

The problem here noco is that the majority of the Australian electorate actually believe that a Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme in this country could, by some miracle, mitigate climate change. They have also bought the alternative energy myth. Turnbull is a believer, not a sceptic. The strange thing is that people are screaming about rising electricity costs now.

It is hard to believe that a smart guy like Rudd actually believes the lies he is peddling about GW. His motives must be more sinister.

 

[Buckeroo]

It is hard to believe that a smart guy like Rudd actually believes the lies he is peddling about GW. His motives must be more sinister.

Mmmmm.....how about this:

The world is on the precipice of economic destruction. With this will come complete & total disruption in world stability.

So how would countries quell an uprising of its citizens when all the stimulus money runs out? Easy, blame the inevitable lower living standards & hardship on GW. It will be like a war, except a war on carbon - we will all have to pull together for the good of mankind & our environment.

They have already done this to good effect & it worked. What's that you say? Well, at the height of the financial crises, they put the world on a pandemic footing for a flu that's milder than the usual seasonal flu's.

Cheers

 

[nulla nulla]

If he sticks arround long enough, Peter Costelo retires, Tony Abbot becomes a preist and Joe Hockey is outed as a terrorist. In 15 years when the Australian population decides its time for a change, simply for the sake of a change, he might be able to win.

 

[queenslander55]

Can't see him going down without a fight though...I think he has a regular re-occuring dream about sipping port and puffing panatellas from the vantage point of the terrace at Kirribilli...

 

[Julia]

Mmmmm.....how about this:

The world is on the precipice of economic destruction. With this will come complete & total disruption in world stability.

So how would countries quell an uprising of its citizens when all the stimulus money runs out? Easy, blame the inevitable lower living standards & hardship on GW. It will be like a war, except a war on carbon - we will all have to pull together for the good of mankind & our environment.

They have already done this to good effect & it worked. What's that you say? Well, at the height of the financial crises, they put the world on a pandemic footing for a flu that's milder than the usual seasonal flu's.

Cheers

Well, Buckeroo, my mind wouldn't have gone to such machiavellian levels, but when you put it like that, it does sound entirely supportable. Quite the sort of scheme a manipulator like Rudd would consider.

 

[Julia]

Did anyone see Malcolm Turnbull's interview on the 7.30 Report this evening?
I don't think I've ever seen such aggression from Kerry O'Brien.

He usually makes at least a gesture towards treating both sides with some equanimity, but tonight he was just viciously out for Turnbull's throat.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see them
start taking a swing at each other, such was the palpable level of anger on both sides.

 

[noco]

Did anyone see Malcolm Turnbull's interview on the 7.30 Report this evening?
I don't think I've ever seen such aggression from Kerry O'Brien.

He usually makes at least a gesture towards treating both sides with some equanimity, but tonight he was just viciously out for Turnbull's throat.

I wouldn't have been surprised to see them
start taking a swing at each other, such was the palpable level of anger on both sides.

Julia, what else would expect from a Labor Party stooge. Rudd probably orchestrates the questions for O'Brien to ask. Would not be surprised if he had contact with Rudd every day.

Kerry O'Brien is and always has been very biased towards the Labor Party. I think Malcolm Turnbull has to reconsider his interviews with the ABC, just like Kevin Rudd picks and chooses who interviews him. Rudd will avoid interviewers whom he thinks may put him on the spot.

 

[Calliope]

I just watched this show. Kerry O'Brien certainly makes no secret of his hatred of Turnbull and his bias against the Coalition. I just wish Turnbull would stop commencing answers to deliberately nasty and provocative questions with "Well Kerry...."

 

[Timmy]

Did anyone see Malcolm Turnbull's interview on the 7.30 Report this evening?
I don't think I've ever seen such aggression from Kerry O'Brien.

I wonder if it is a case of kicking a man when he is down? Kerry getting his kicks (sorry) from doing so?

 

[trainspotter]

Maybe Kerry O'Brien wants to follow previous presenter of the ABC's 7.30 report, Alan Carpenter into politics? Kerry O'Brien and Malcolm Turnbull have a history of head clashes in the boxing ring commonly called "journalism" for the masses. Maybe MT is punch drunk from the severe beating he has copped lately from the rumble tumble of politics which he is clearly not suited for. See below link for more loaded questions from Kerry OB1 Kenobe.

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...n/comments/abc_to_turnbull_be_fairer_to_rudd/

To watch the 13 minutes of agony of a man who is having his fingernails pulled out with bolt cutters.

http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/7.30-smackdown-a-warmup-bout-for-lib-party-room?from=news.com.au

The indignant stance of refusing to answer questions is clearly a sign of a man who is out of his depth and rapidly running out of time. Just like Julius Caesar he is about to find out what happens when you do not listen to the caucus. Et tu Brute ? Or in this case "Don't stand behind me with that dagger, Wilson Tuckey"

 

[MrBurns]

A question for you Kerry,

When will yopu be leaving the ABC to take up a safe seat as a Member of the ALP ? and for how long have you been a mole for the ALP using your position at the ABC in an attempt to turn public opinion against the Liberals ?

 

[Julia]

I wonder if it is a case of kicking a man when he is down? Kerry getting his kicks (sorry) from doing so?

That's certainly how it appeared. I've always had respect for Kerry O'Brien and felt he has overall done a reasonable job of being fair to both sides, but he certainly appeared to have his own agenda last night.

 

[Macquack]

A question for you Kerry,

When will yopu be leaving the ABC to take up a safe seat as a Member of the ALP ? and for how long have you been a mole for the ALP using your position at the ABC in an attempt to turn public opinion against the Liberals ?

Turnbull is doing a fine job turning public opinion against the Liberals, all by himself.

 

[Buckeroo]

That's certainly how it appeared. I've always had respect for Kerry O'Brien and felt he has overall done a reasonable job of being fair to both sides, but he certainly appeared to have his own agenda last night.

Sorry Julia, but this is a statement that I don't even remotely agree with.

O'Brien is a labor sympathizer and I'm being very kind. I used to watch him in the 90's & recognized then, he was extremely biased toward the Liberals.

It was only recently he was caught saying this in so many words. Anyway, most journalists are labor supporters because most of them still belong to a union. And the nature of their jobs are, well, socialistic.

Its no wonder that in the public eyes, their profession is only one step up from the bottom after real estate agents because of their opinionated bias.

Cheers

 

[MrBurns]

I guess O'Brien had a right to have a go, but I'd like to see him do the same with Rudd instead of allowing him to answer every question with "The global financial crisis is the worst etc etc and no matter what goes wrong it wont be our fault, you do agree don't you Kerry?"

 

[Gamblor]

Sorry Julia, but this is a statement that I don't even remotely agree with.

O'Brien is a labor sympathizer and I'm being very kind. I used to watch him in the 90's & recognized then, he was extremely biased toward the Liberals.

It was only recently he was caught saying this in so many words. Anyway, most journalists are labor supporters because most of them still belong to a union. And the nature of their jobs are, well, socialistic.

Its no wonder that in the public eyes, their profession is only one step up from the bottom after real estate agents because of their opinionated bias.

Cheers

hahahaha oh boy. O'Brien will savage anyone he can - the man is a pitbull and when he can see a wound he attacks it. Turnbull got ruffled because he was vulnerable (having members of your own party background journos on internal polls doesn't help either). I've seen him make fools out of many people regardless of party.

 

[Julia]

Turnbull is doing a fine job turning public opinion against the Liberals, all by himself.

Ably assisted by Wilson Tuckey. What is the matter with this bloke?
He seems to be regarding the complete destruction of the Liberal Party as his mission in life. (Tuckey, I mean.)

Sorry Julia, but this is a statement that I don't even remotely agree with.

O'Brien is a labor sympathizer and I'm being very kind. I used to watch him in the 90's & recognized then, he was extremely biased toward the Liberals.

It was only recently he was caught saying this in so many words. Anyway, most journalists are labor supporters because most of them still belong to a union. And the nature of their jobs are, well, socialistic.

Its no wonder that in the public eyes, their profession is only one step up from the bottom after real estate agents because of their opinionated bias.

Cheers

I know a lot of people feel as you do. But I've seen him at times ask some pretty hard questions of Labor people. Never seen it happen with K. Rudd though. Rudd always drives the interview (as Penny Wong did tonight) and O'Brien just goes along for the ride, at the end meekly thanking the PM for his time.

I guess O'Brien had a right to have a go, but I'd like to see him do the same with Rudd instead of allowing him to answer every question with "The global financial crisis is the worst etc etc and no matter what goes wrong it wont be our fault, you do agree don't you Kerry?"

Have you watched the interview, Mr Burns. It was rather more than "having a go.".