Has Kevin Rudd misled parliament?

[rederob]

trainspotter, I can assure you there are some public servants who are willing to to get so far up a minister's rectum that surgeons could employ them to perform colonoscopies without anaesthetic.
They require no other direction.

 

[trainspotter]

: D: D: D:

And I believe I have dealt with at least half of them at some stage or another. From local councils to public servants and inclusive of a few wannabe MP's who did not cut the mustard.

 

[Calliope]

Rederob

It was noticeable yesterday that you tried to appear calm and reasonable, even rational. Lest anyone should think that you have had an epiphany, it is more likely that you have been warned about your obnoxious behaviour and are walking a fine line.

While you are still in denial about Rudd ad Swan misleading parliament, you are now saying, based on your knowledge of the Public Service, that it was just a case of the boys trying to curry favour with the boss. You put it more crudely as is your nature.

The more likely scenario is that Rudd instructed Swan and Andrew Martin to look after his mate, and what Rudd wants, Rudd gets, or he will throw one of his notorious tantrums.

However, they have got away with it, and having set the precedent that they can lie to Parliament with impunity, their arrogance will know no bounds.

I get the feeling that you are in retreat, but before you disappear down your bolt hole, perhaps I could give you a little advice. I received your childishly crude PM yesterday. I think you should seek professional help.

 

[rederob]

Rederob

It was noticeable yesterday that you tried to appear calm and reasonable, even rational. Lest anyone should think that you have had an epiphany, it is more likely that you have been warned about your obnoxious behaviour and are walking a fine line.

While you are still in denial about Rudd ad Swan misleading parliament, you are now saying, based on your knowledge of the Public Service, that it was just a case of the boys trying to curry favour with the boss. You put it more crudely as is your nature.

The more likely scenario is that Rudd instructed Swan and Andrew Martin to look after his mate, and what Rudd wants, Rudd gets, or he will throw one of his notorious tantrums.

However, they have got away with it, and having set the precedent that they can lie to Parliament with impunity, their arrogance will know no bounds.

I get the feeling that you are in retreat, but before you disappear down your bolt hole, perhaps I could give you a little advice. I received your childishly crude PM yesterday. I think you should seek professional help.

With my god like persona I am able to converse within the trinity at a whim, so your advice is as useful as an email to Godwin Grech.

 

[Calliope]

With my god like persona I am able to converse within the trinity at a whim, so your advice is as useful as an email to Godwin Grech.

Yes I know you have a very thick hide. By the way, who is the third person in your trinity? Bob Brown perhaps?

But I do think you should take a little time off to recharge you venom glands and concentrate on the job you are paid to do by your bosses... the taxpayers.

 

[Quincy]

Article in the "Herald Sun" - by Glenn Milne - June 28, 2009 12:00am

Kevin Rudd in fresh OzCar claims


NEW pictures have emerged of Kevin Rudd and members of Brisbane's 51 Club - whose president, John Grant, is the used car dealer at the centre of the Ute-gate row.

Mr Rudd has denied membership of the club, saying through a spokeswoman he had only dined with them once while in opposition.

Club member Allan Mair has said Mr Rudd's links to the club go back a decade.

The pictures obtained by the Sunday Herald Sun show Mr Rudd posing with club members outside the Cabinet Room in Federal Parliament, a highly secure area requiring special clearance to access.

The club's website - which has been removed - billed itself as having "strong links to the corridors of power".

A member of the 51 club, who wishes to remain anonymous, claims Mr Rudd met Mr Grant twice in China to help Mr Grant with his business interests.

The Prime Minister's office yesterday said Mr Rudd had "no record" of such a meeting.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25700275-662,00.html

 

[Macquack]

Article in the "Herald Sun" - by Glenn Milne - June 28, 2009 12:00am


http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25700275-662,00.html

Fair dinkum, that Glenn Milne is a tosser. He fails to even mention that the mafiosa "51 Club" is nothing more than a group of people born in 1951.

What ever medication Milne was on when he assaulted Stephen Mayne at the Walkley Awards has left him with permanent brain damage.

From now on Rudd is not allowed to associate with anybody born in 1951 or make that anybody born in the twentieth century.

 

[MrBurns]

As the champion of Labor bull**** Mcquack I'd like to ask you a question.

If the increase in the FHBG was to help jobs and the building industry why didn't it only apply to new homes.

What possible good does the application of the increase in this grant to existing homes do for jobs or the building industry or was it just to boost Rudds popularity ?

 

[Julia]

Fair dinkum, that Glenn Milne is a tosser. He fails to even mention that the mafiosa "51 Club" is nothing more than a group of people born in 1951.

What ever medication Milne was on when he assaulted Stephen Mayne at the Walkley Awards has left him with permanent brain damage.

From now on Rudd is not allowed to associate with anybody born in 1951 or make that anybody born in the twentieth century.

Macquack, that's a bit silly. Obviously the point Milne was attempting to make is that - contrary to Mr Rudd's assertions that he hardly knows Mr Grant - they have a long and close association.

 

[rederob]

Macquack, that's a bit silly. Obviously the point Milne was attempting to make is that - contrary to Mr Rudd's assertions that he hardly knows Mr Grant - they have a long and close association.

It's called guilt by association. The only people that fall for it are fools and imbeciles.

 

[trainspotter]

Didn't John Grant state "Of course I tried to help him (referring to Rudd), he's my neighbour, afterall is that not the Australian way?"

Bit more than guilt by association. His contact with Rudd was a bit more systemic and more along the lines of helping a mate. Here's a ute Mr Rudd. Here's $32,000 for you rlegal bill Mr Rudd. Here's a photo of me in parliament with Mr Rudd in a "no access area". On and on and on it goes. Get my drift?

Now as mateships go, isn't the Australian way that if I help you as a friend it is your duty to reciprocate to me at some stage? If it isn't then I have been doing something wrong to help my mates over the past 30 years or so.

 

[Calliope]

It's called guilt by association. The only people that fall for it are fools and imbeciles.

...or people who know Rudd is a liar.

 

[rederob]

Didn't John Grant state "Of course I tried to help him (referring to Rudd), he's my neighbour, afterall is that not the Australian way?"

Well before Rudd was even considered a "possible" potential leader of Labor he was involved in lots of things. Grant and many others in Rudd's vicinity were concerned about Brisbane Airport's parallel runway plans, and Rudd personally met the cost of a legal campaign against it. Grant would have paid his $85 to attend the Ban Aircraft over Residential Brisbane fundraiser which, ultimately, contributed $28k towards Rudd's efforts.

Milne's smear tactics are quite pathetic and simply show his journalistic ineptitude to those who have clue. Milne could use the same principles to link me with half a dozen federal and state MPs. Having actually been in the federal Cabinet room, and been pictured at the Speaker's Chair, perhaps my links with politicians are stronger than Grants!

Far from it. Howard was photographed with some very dodgy characters over the years, and many business people (such as Russo in Queensland) like to prominently display pictures with political leaders. It means little in the greater scheme of things. Except when ill informed dirt mongers like Milne try to get some attention for themselves when they run out of relevant facts.

 

[Julia]

It's called guilt by association. The only people that fall for it are fools and imbeciles.

No Rederob, that particular cliche doesn't apply in this context.

What Mr Milne was attempting to demonstrate was nothing more than the untruth of Mr Rudd's claim that he hardly knew Mr Grant.

 

[Calliope]

Having actually been in the federal Cabinet room, and been pictured at the Speaker's Chair, perhaps my links with politicians are stronger than Grants!

Well that's not surprising. You are certainly a willing party hack. That's why you are allowed to spread your party propaganda at the taxpayer's expense.

 

[nunthewiser]

Kevin Rudd is great

he would not mislead anyone

look at his face , honest john he should be known as

please stop picking on him

 

[rederob]

No Rederob, that particular cliche doesn't apply in this context.
What Mr Milne was attempting to demonstrate was nothing more than the untruth of Mr Rudd's claim that he hardly knew Mr Grant.

Please produce evidence of Rudd making this claim.

 

[Calliope]

Rudd and Gillard want to start a witch hunt into the ethics of News Limited newspapers They are not happy about the coverage of Kevvy's utegate antics. They claim the Brisbane Courier-Mail kept rubbishing him even after he told everybody he was innocent.

Rudd's problem is that he has such a reputation for being a prevaricator, that who knows when he is telling the truth.

I suppose that after they censor the internet, newspapers will be next. They will probably set up a Canberra Pravda.

 

[Uncle Barry]

"I suppose that after they censor the internet, newspapers will be next. They will probably set up a Canberra Pravda."

AND that just may not be a joke, it may very well be the truth in the not too distant future for everybody here in Australia.

PS, if you just laugh at the claim, then your not thinking too clearly !

PPS, and Comrade Rob will be in charge of all the propaganda as a reward for all the good work he is doing for the party here.

UB

 

[Macquack]

So you be nice and I'll be nice.

As the champion of Labor bull**** Mcquack

Not nice Burns, the champion of loud mouthed self-adulating bufoons.

Now to answer your question.

If the increase in the FHBG was to help jobs and the building industry why didn't it only apply to new homes.

Beats me, maybe saved a few jobs of your former profession (RE sharks).

What possible good does the application of the increase in this grant to existing homes do for jobs or the building industry or was it just to boost Rudds popularity ?

It does SFA for the building industry. I never said it was a good idea.

Burns, you are not the only one who thinks this policy is propping up the real estate market.