Has Kevin Rudd misled parliament?

[GumbyLearner]

I think they'll see though it but without a gutsier Lib party Rudd may win again by default, which is how he got in in the first place.

But you are ignoring the economic policies of the previous over a decade long government of the tories. Do you think they gave bigger tax breaks to the majority of punters?

Please Mr.Burns, this is becoming tiresome.

Cycles my friend cycles

 

[MrBurns]

But you are ignoring the economic policies of the previous over a decade long government of the tories. Do you think they gave bigger tax breaks to the majority of punters?

Please Mr.Burns, this is becoming tiresome.

Cycles my friend cycles

Think of the big picture Gumby, people were much better offf under the Libs, they thought they hated Howard so they gave him the **** but they hadn't experience Rudd and Labor, live and learn.

People are basically rooted at present, until the libs get back into action and suppost small business and get employment moving it will just get worse.

 

[Stan 101]

I'm suprised and disappointed that this story got a run without proof, I don't believe a lot in the media but the printed media has to maintain it's credibility or die.

The story got a long run because of Turnbull's big idiot mouth. The buffoon went off half cocked, not bothering to check facts and just wouldn't shut his trap. The man is a fool and is not fit to run a local nana's knitting convention.
ha ha ha!!!

 

[GumbyLearner]

Think of the big picture Gumby, people were much better offf under the Libs, they thought they hated Howard so they gave him the **** but they hadn't experience Rudd and Labor, live and learn.

People are basically rooted at present, until the libs get back into action and suppost small business and get employment moving it will just get worse.

You are right Mr.Burns.

I concede and realize now that you are right.

Where are the slums?

 

[MrBurns]

The story got a long run because of Turnbull's big idiot mouth. The buffoon went off half cocked, not bothering to check facts and just wouldn't shut his trap. The man is a fool and is not fit to run a local nana's knitting convention.
ha ha ha!!!

So News Ltd aren't responsible at all ? If i'd seen that on the front page I would have gone for the jugular too, but never again.

 

[Julia]

According to the ABC's 7:30 Report the email was created and destroyed in treasury and was also on Godwin Grech's home PC.

Why then would Godwin express uncertainty about any such email (whether it be authentic or not) to the Senate as he did on Friday ?

Yes, indeed. I expected the situation re Godwin Grech to be discussed amongst the 7.30 Report but it seems everyone is tiptoeing around this issue until the police have finished interviewing him.

Re his apparent uncertainty in the Senate hearing, perhaps he had mentioned the email to his Treasury colleagues and been told to shut up about it?

The fake email is now "Turnbulls fake email" having been pushed all day by Labor. I have no doubt that many people think Turnbull wrote it himself after Labors spin effort in the media.

Yep. That's my impression too, especially for the vast majority who don't pay the sort of attention to the matter that we have been doing.
Mr Rudd managed very successfully to convey just that impression (without of course actually saying so) in his 7.30 Report interview.

 

[MrBurns]

Yep. That's my impression too, especially for the vast majority who don't pay the sort of attention to the matter that we have been doing.
Mr Rudd managed very successfully to convey just that impression (without of course actually saying so) in his 7.30 Report interview.

Thats what is so dangerous about Rudd he's cunning and sneaky but extremely so.

 

[GumbyLearner]

We've already seen the email in the newspapers, why doesn't someone ask THEM to produce it.

I dont really care how it happens but we have to get rid of Rudd, this may be the key, Turnbull has seen the email in the paper like everyone else asked for an explanation, Rudd has tried to turn it around onto Turnbull, he is a master of spin and massaging the truth, he's not worthy of the position.

Dear Mr.Burns

Are you sure you don't have an "unrequited love" for Mr. Rudd considering the majority of your posts on this website are aimed at him?

 

[Tink]

Well looks like they arent going to give up........

Turnbull started it, Rudd will end it..

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is demanding Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull resign

 

[GumbyLearner]

The story got a long run because of Turnbull's big idiot mouth. The buffoon went off half cocked, not bothering to check facts and just wouldn't shut his trap. The man is a fool and is not fit to run a local nana's knitting convention.
ha ha ha!!!

Of course unlike Keating who had no part in the allegation when Ralph got shafted, this guy has to go. At least according to parliamentary convention...
The days of Whitlam??? remember?

 

[MrBurns]

Dear Mr.Burns

Are you sure you don't have an "unrequited love" for Mr. Rudd considering the majority of your posts on this website are aimed at him?

No he just annoys me, I have a very sensitive "tosser meter" and Rudd activates it even more than mcquack.

Just saw Rudd on the ABC bringing up "children overboard" again, that seals it for me the man is just full of it and nothing else , an empty spin machine dedicated to bringing up anything he thinks might strike a nerve with his followers.

 

[GumbyLearner]

Well looks like they arent going to give up........

Turnbull started it, Rudd will end it..

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is demanding Opposition Leader Malcolm Turnbull resign

Just like my old man, I don't start them but I finish them

 

[MrBurns]

Just like my old man, I don't start them but I finish them

I dont think Rudd's ever finished anything, just ask his wife.

No that was below the belt I withdraw that.

 

[GumbyLearner]

No he just annoys me, I have a very sensitive "tosser meter" and Rudd activates it even more than mcquack.

Just saw Rudd on the ABC bringing up "children overboard" again, that seals it for me the man is just full of it and nothing else , an empty spin machine dedicated to bringing up anything he thinks might strike a nerve with his followers.

Are you a One Nation member?

 

[Timmy]

Are you a One Nation member?

Too loony left for Mr. B

 

[moXJO]

Just saw Rudd on the ABC bringing up "children overboard" again, that seals it for me the man is just full of it and nothing else , an empty spin machine dedicated to bringing up anything he thinks might strike a nerve with his followers.

This is where his spin is tight. He brings it all together, past indiscretions, the current focal point and then just hammers it home over and over again until it’s ingrained. While also spouting the virtues of labor members that are in trouble. The general public either lap it up, or don't give a toss much in the first place and think that will do. You have to hand it to him, he is very good at it.

 

[MrBurns]

Are you a One Nation member?

Just in case you're serious I'll answer that, no I'm not, I'm a swinging voter but usually find that Labor are latte' sucking tossers who love to spend money without having a clue how it's made, like Rudd he has money but it's been made by someone else, his wife.

libs make the hard decisions that keep the nation humming, work hard get paid, end of story.

 

[MrBurns]

This is where his spin is tight. He brings it all together, past indiscretions, the current focal point and then just hammers it home over and over again until it’s ingrained. While also spouting the virtues of labor members that are in trouble. The general public either lap it up, or don't give a toss much in the first place and think that will do. You have to hand it to him, he is very good at it.

Thats what so annoying about Rudd, he's robotic and transparent, if he gets away with this I'll be very disappointed.(to say the least)

 

[Stan 101]

"For Mr Turnbull as the alternative prime minister - and he's a person trained as a lawyer - not to administer any basic due diligence to this forged email, and to mount a capital case against the Prime Minister of the day calling for him to resign, accusing of being corrupt, shows such a lack of judgement on his part that he is no longer fit to occupy the office of leader of the Opposition," he said.

Extract from http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/06/22/2605368.htm.

It was clear on the weekend that this is way it would end for Turnbull. If the Libs keep him as leader, whatever credibility they have gained in the last two years will be diminished in a great way.

I'm no real fan of Rudd, but there is no way I could vote for Turnbull's libs at the next election. What he did really is incomprehensible. It was grossly incompetent.

Got to hand it to labour. They offered up the rope and is going to let Turnbull swing high.

Swan is a quite the politician. I was confident he would have copies of emails showing all car dealer received equal treatment and would just hold back and hold back till the libs showed their "gung ho" incompetence.




cheers,

 

[rederob]

Re his apparent uncertainty in the Senate hearing, perhaps he had mentioned the email to his Treasury colleagues and been told to shut up about it?

Perhaps that was because he told himself that the email he sent to himself wasn't his, and because he could find no evidence of it, he could with certainty be unsure of its accuracy, to the best of his recollection.
The AFP are still searching for the fairies that Grech described in vivid detail as dwelling at the bottom of his garden.